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On 27/11/2023 at 22:13, deeane Koontz said:

Robinson is class. Wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a big move in the summer. 

Sky sports news player stats thing has him down as having the most interceptions in the PL this season with 15

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That surely has to be the worst VAR decision of all time? I always have some sympathy for the referee as they must assume they’re only going to be called over when they’ve made a mistake. But there is no way those VAR officials should ever be allowed to officiate again. Hard not to think the game is corrupt when you get decisions like that. 

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59 minutes ago, wiggy said:

That surely has to be the worst VAR decision of all time? 

The VAR decision plucky little Newcastle benefitted from to beat Arsenal 1-0 this season was worse.On that occasion the ball had clearly gone out of play for a throw in so the goal 100% should not have stood, last nights was a matter of opinion about a handball that did hit the players arm.

The referee who made the decision is one of the best in the world having refereed both the the last World Cup Final and last Champions League Final.

 

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1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

The VAR decision plucky little Newcastle benefitted from to beat Arsenal 1-0 this season was worse.On that occasion the ball had clearly gone out of play for a throw in so the goal 100% should not have stood, last nights was a matter of opinion about a handball that did hit the players arm.

The referee who made the decision is one of the best in the world having refereed both the the last World Cup Final and last Champions League Final.

 

The ball hit the body first then the arm.

No idea what any of rest has to do with it.

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2 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

The referee who made the decision is one of the best in the world.

 

If he’s genuinely one of the best in the world then we really are in trouble.

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2 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

The referee who made the decision is one of the best in the world having refereed both the the last World Cup Final and last Champions League Final.

I’m not normally one for conspiracy finals but is that the World Cup final played in Qatar? Which also happens to be where the PSG owners are based?

That decision last night was so bad that it will hard for people not to think that something fishy is going on. 

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4 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

The VAR decision plucky little Newcastle benefitted from to beat Arsenal 1-0 this season was worse.On that occasion the ball had clearly gone out of play for a throw in so the goal 100% should not have stood, last nights was a matter of opinion about a handball that did hit the players arm.

Not true. Firstly, it would have been a goal kick, I think and secondly the officials didn't think the whole of the ball had crossed the whole of the line and VAR wasn't clear enough to overturn it.

It's all about angles and later on a new image was circulated showing the ball was still just about in play.

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32 minutes ago, Traf said:

Not true. Firstly, it would have been a goal kick, I think and secondly the officials didn't think the whole of the ball had crossed the whole of the line and VAR wasn't clear enough to overturn it.

It's all about angles and later on a new image was circulated showing the ball was still just about in play.

This.

Being able to see some pitch beyond the line doesn't mean all the ball has gone over it.

Having seen angles of replays etc, it isn't clear that the ball went out.

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6 hours ago, wiggy said:

That surely has to be the worst VAR decision of all time? I always have some sympathy for the referee as they must assume they’re only going to be called over when they’ve made a mistake. But there is no way those VAR officials should ever be allowed to officiate again. Hard not to think the game is corrupt when you get decisions like that. 

Well,  UAFA have suspended the VAR official who told the ref. to review on screen.

Not the referee. 

But, it's the referee who made the decision to award the penalty.

Or are they implying that, once called across he effectively MUST change his mind ?

Anyway  no-one's going to change the result now.

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soon as the ref gets called over to the screen, it's being overturned, it's forcing the refs to change their decision 

need more refs sticking to their original decision and not letting the screen dictate 

that last night was a shocker 

 

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2 hours ago, Traf said:

Then it is't handball, according to the new rules.

Uefa assess it differently apparently

In the prem they take account of it coming off the body and into the arm so wouldn't give a pen

Uefa don't take this into account so deemed his arm to be in an unnatural position so pen is given 

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Uefa have previously released a statement saying…

“No handball offense should be called on a player if the ball is previously deflected from his own body, and, in particular, when the ball does not go towards the goal.”

 

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That was an advisory board who said that 

Keith Hackett, former general manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), the English referees' body, told the Daily Telegraph that Uefa did not implement this recommendation for its own competitions.

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16 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

The VAR decision plucky little Newcastle benefitted from to beat Arsenal 1-0 this season was worse.On that occasion the ball had clearly gone out of play for a throw in so the goal 100% should not have stood, last nights was a matter of opinion about a handball that did hit the players arm.

The referee who made the decision is one of the best in the world having refereed both the the last World Cup Final and last Champions League Final.

 

The ball certainly hadn’t “clearly gone out of play”.
I said at the time that due to parallax error, unless you have an exactly in-line camera angle (and you ought to have had as it was the goal-line) there’s no way in such a close call to be absolutely certain.

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