Garrp Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 After another cruciate injury to Clayton i'd thought id take a look and see if we have been unlucky or if it is linked to our pitch in anyway. I've gone back and found all the cruciate injuries I can remember and put them in a table along with pitch (stadium) and other details. I guess we then have to look at if it was a tackle (like Evans on Holden), or if his leg just gave way on the surface. If it was the first time it had happened to said player or indeed the same leg if more than one cruciate injury. Can we rule out Holden as it all started from a horrendous tackle by Evans? I'm missing the info for which leg(s) Gardner had his on and how the first one happened. Bad tackle/surface? anyway, here's the table. Does anyone remember any others we have had? Dark red is when it happened for the first time at the Reebok. light red is when it happened at the Reebok but it wasn't the first time for said player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 16, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 16, 2014 winding down for Christmas? am guessing it's a "no" regards our pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Jussi was because of that dirty Tranmere cunt Parkinson, wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 After another cruciate injury to Clayton i'd thought id take a look and see if we have been unlucky or if it is linked to our pitch in anyway. I've gone back and found all the cruciate injuries I can remember and put them in a table along with pitch (stadium) and other details. I guess we then have to look at if it was a tackle (like Evans on Holden), or if his leg just gave way on the surface. If it was the first time it had happened to said player or indeed the same leg if more than one cruciate injury. Can we rule out Holden as it all started from a horrendous tackle by Evans? I'm missing the info for which leg(s) Gardner had his on and how the first one happened. Bad tackle/surface? anyway, here's the table. Does anyone remember any others we have had? Dark red is when it happened for the first time at the Reebok. light red is when it happened at the Reebok but it wasn't the first time for said player So fess up......ever kissed a girl who isn't a brass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Gardeners first was Curtis at Barnsley. His mum was called for from the stands iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeggyMountbatten Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Sean Davies got knee knack didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 No comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeggyMountbatten Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Joe Riley did his knee at the start of last season. Seem to remember Joey O'Brien being injured for ages too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 16, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2014 You'd need to compare to other clubs. As you point out a number of those injuries were to the same player; once you've knacked it once I would imagine you're always at risk of doing it again. Be interesting to see the number of new cases compared to other teams. Wembley was apparently noted as a knee knackerer at one time so there may be something in it, though doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 You'd need to compare to other clubs. As you point out a number of those injuries were to the same player; once you've knacked it once I would imagine you're always at risk of doing it again. Be interesting to see the number of new cases compared to other teams. Wembley was apparently noted as a knee knackerer at one time so there may be something in it, though doubt it. I think that's the key. We need to rule out the ones that happened because of fouls and all ones that happened as a result of a first cruciate, then compare the rest. anymore we've had with cruciate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 You would need a lot more data to make it statistically significant and even then there are too many variables involved IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 16, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 16, 2014 I think that's the key. We need to rule out the ones that happened because of fouls and all ones that happened as a result of a first cruciate, then compare the rest. anymore we've had with cruciate? You'd have to take into account every game played at the reebok, players for both teams and at all levels, not just at first team level whilst playing for us Otherwise the data is, as they say, as worthless as a corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 You'd have to take into account every game played at the reebok, players for both teams and at all levels, not just at first team level whilst playing for us Otherwise the data is, as they say, as worthless as a corner but we don't have that data else I would, What it does show is if you exclude all those caused by fouls and those that happened for a second time is that we never had any from when the Reebok was built to when we changed the pitch twice in 2007/2008. http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1165046.print/ since then we've had 7 cruciate injuries that that didn't involve fouls and the player had never had the injury before. of those 7, 6 were at the reebok and 1 was away at the DW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted December 16, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 16, 2014 Dr Carlos diagnosed it as a cruciate straight away, whoever on the medical side told him to go and run it off needs sacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 16, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2014 I can't help but think the floodlights are involved somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Or the electronic billboards emitting knee-weakening gamma rays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Or the electronic billboards emitting knee-weakening gamma rays. No got to be the ticket office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Andy Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Girl Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 What it does show is if you exclude all those caused by fouls and those that happened for a second time is that we never had any from when the Reebok was built to when we changed the pitch twice in 2007/2008. ........... of those 7, 6 were at the reebok and 1 was away at the DW. Still not statistically significant. You need to spend a bit more time on this with data from all clubs over the same time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted December 16, 2014 Members Share Posted December 16, 2014 No player ever got an injury when Big Sam was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkden26 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It sure was. That cunt plays for Prestatyn Town now. Went to watch them last season and everytime he was near the goal mouth he was reminded by 10-15 of us what a cunt he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledwhite2 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Keith Branagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Keith Branagan V derby iirc. At the lever end. He went down like a sack of spuds after hoofing it up field. Step up to the plate Aidan Davidson ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Sack the groundsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 17, 2014 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2014 but we don't have that data else I would, What it does show is if you exclude all those caused by fouls and those that happened for a second time is that we never had any from when the Reebok was built to when we changed the pitch twice in 2007/2008. http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1165046.print/ since then we've had 7 cruciate injuries that that didn't involve fouls and the player had never had the injury before. of those 7, 6 were at the reebok and 1 was away at the DW. 6 at the reebok since 2007/08? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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