May 5, 201511 yr Its costing the UK 30 million pounds a day to be in europe. A DAY! Absolute bargain considering what we get out of it.
May 5, 201511 yr Absolute bargain considering what we get out of it. Biggest case of the emperors new clothes ever pulled off.
May 5, 201511 yr What do we get out of it that we didnt get before joining Europe? and what is the loss / proffit of Europe?
May 5, 201511 yr What do we get out of it that we didnt get before joining Europe? and what is the loss / proffit of Europe? Notwithstanding the numbers, the biggest loss is of sovereignty
May 5, 201511 yr I am a higher rate tax payer who would happily vote Labour as they have no chance of getting in around here.
May 5, 201511 yr What do we get out of it that we didnt get before joining Europe? and what is the loss / proffit of Europe? No European wars? There is a reason the EU won a nobel peace prize.
May 5, 201511 yr The one front bencher from the Labour side that I could have the time of day for is Andy Burnham. The rest of them don't appeal It's never going to happen, but the NHS /social care is such a big budgetry & important topic that probably touches us all in our daily lives one way or another, that it would be good if it could be ringfenced, de-politicised and have some sort of consensus on the best way forward.
May 5, 201511 yr Possibly, though it has given the Germans the opportunity to achieve with the chequebook what they failed with the jackboot
May 5, 201511 yr The one front bencher from the Labour side that I could have the time of day for is Andy Burnham. The rest of them don't appeal It's never going to happen, but the NHS /social care is such a big budgetry & important topic that probably touches us all in our daily lives one way or another, that it would be good if it could be ringfenced, de-politicised and have some sort of consensus on the best way forward. The NHS is important but so is education, the economy, welfare, crime etc etc..... They can't all be de-coupled and in fact are in many ways all inter-linked. I get the sentiment but the reality is that someone has to carry the can and probably better that those who do so can be thrown out in a few years time by the public if needs be.
May 5, 201511 yr I need some info on who I can vote for localy, who they are and what they are saying ??
May 5, 201511 yr The NHS is important but so is education, the economy, welfare, crime etc etc..... They can't all be de-coupled and in fact are in many ways all inter-linked. I get the sentiment but the reality is that someone has to carry the can and probably better that those who do so can be thrown out in a few years time by the public if needs be. Best idea I heard the other week was on 5 live from an Economist who reckoned that the NHS provided good value for money. Compared to other European nations who provide similar care it came out well. He said there was a separate argument about what services should or should not be provided. However, his idea was that the cost to the treasury should be separated from the others and clearly itemised in terms of wages, pensions, services etc together with costs of management and governing bodies.
May 5, 201511 yr I need some info on who I can vote for localy, who they are and what they are saying ?? Ask your dad who he's voting for.
May 5, 201511 yr I need some info on who I can vote for localy, who they are and what they are saying ?? I thought scousers just voted for whoever isn't backed by The Sun?
May 5, 201511 yr This over arching structure was given to us on our uni course the other week. All these bodies have to be paid for and have to be linked up via IT. This is even before you get to to the management of an individual trust such as the one for Calderdale below. These were all put in place by both Tory & Labour.
May 5, 201511 yr I need some info on who I can vote for localy, who they are and what they are saying ?? I think with the more presidential-style elections, local has, unfortunately, disappeared. Many are voting "Cameron or Miliband", neither of whom appeared on my postal vote
May 5, 201511 yr Not particularly. I'm a higher rate tax payer and would not be against that rate increasing to be honest. I'd certainly listen to any party proposing that. End of the day it is relative, it isn't like they'd be targeting me and my family specifically. It would of course depend on what they wanted to do with the money. If a party said we'd have a higher rate of tax for top earners to help bridge the NHS funding gap, I'd vote for that personally. Increasing higher than 40% That's absolutely bonkers
May 5, 201511 yr Thinly veiled i am worth more that Jules and CWP combined and recently fucked off the bentley for a helicopter Fucking Hell, don't be putting me in the same bracket as Jules, he pays more in tax than I earn in a year
May 5, 201511 yr Don't understand this "Labour will drag the country into more debt" thing that seems to be popular at the moment. The current government has borrowed more in the last 5 years than the previous government did over 13. If it wasn't for the global banking system imploding, forcing those huge bail outs of the banks that caused it, Labour would have borrowed even less.
May 5, 201511 yr The fiscal study people seem to think so. Do they? http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/7678 There is real uncertainty about what path the Labour party want to follow for the public finances. The Conservatives have been clearer about what they want to achieve, but they have not been clear about how they would achieve it. They would require substantially bigger spending cuts or tax increases than Labour. Edited May 5, 201511 yr by Redmond
May 5, 201511 yr Don't understand this "Labour will drag the country into more debt" thing that seems to be popular at the moment. The current government has borrowed more in the last 5 years than the previous government did over 13. If it wasn't for the global banking system imploding, forcing those huge bail outs of the banks that caused it, Labour would have borrowed even less. If it smells of horseshit.............
May 5, 201511 yr Do they? http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/7678 Yes. I'm on my iPad so can't cut and paste the section but it's in therehttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/13/labour-manifesto-pledges-to-boost-minimum-wage-and-cut-deficit It's the guardian too for all those who think I'm Thatcher's blinkered love child.
May 5, 201511 yr Do they? http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/7678 Oh and if Labour didn't overspend, why is Super Ed now pleading he'll become Mr Fucking Stick-to-Cautious Budget?
May 5, 201511 yr I am still waiting for a reply to why 30 million pounds given to the EU is `an absolute bargain`. I am in an open mind, and am genuinely wanting to know why this is a baragain. So it can be shown that the UK makes far more than 30 million pounds a day out of the Europe deal that we didnt already get before joining? Edited May 5, 201511 yr by overseas
May 5, 201511 yr Yes. I'm on my iPad so can't cut and paste the section but it's in there http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/13/labour-manifesto-pledges-to-boost-minimum-wage-and-cut-deficit It's the guardian too for all those who think I'm Thatcher's blinkered love child. I can't find anything relevant in that article. Oh and if Labour didn't overspend, why is Super Ed now pleading he'll become Mr Fucking Stick-to-Cautious Budget? I'm not saying Labour didn't overspend, but the Coalition has borrowed even more, and all during 5 years of austerity!
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