(That long since we've had any, couldn't find the thread)

Alan Nixon: "Top Liverpool starlet Cameron Branagan will Ben allowed out on loan in Jan.

Bolton lead the race for the 20 year old midfielder"

Edited December 11, 20169 yr by Ratwhite

6 minutes ago, Stevowanderer said:

Would defo have to be 7 figures but think he only has 18 months left on contract doesn’t he? 

Not sure how long he has left, it would be a sideways move for him, obviously money talks and if it suits us and them he will be on his way.

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not sure how long he has left, it would be a sideways move for him, obviously money talks and if it suits us and them he will be on his way.

It was maybe a sideways move a decade ago but not anymore. They have incredible facilities, one of the wealthiest domestic owners in the country and in the championship. I'm sure they would be doubling or trebling his wages - as you say money talks. 

Edited January 31, 20233 yr by Stevowanderer

I think 2 will come in today, but a couple might go.

2 minutes ago, Stevowanderer said:

It was maybe a sideways move a decade ago but not anymore. They have incredible facilities, one of the wealthiest domestic owners in the country and in the championship. I'm sure they would be doubling or trebling his wages - as you say money talks. 

With such wealth, I can’t work out why they are down the bottom end of the Championship.

1 minute ago, Stevowanderer said:

It was maybe a sideways move a decade ago but not anymore. They have incredible facilities, one of the wealthiest domestic owners in the country and in the championship. I'm sure they would be doubling or trebling his wages - as you say money talks. 

They do not strike me as a club on the up despite the wealth of the owners, it is possible we replace them in the championship next year, that is why I said a sideways move for his career, definitely would offer him much larger salary.

1 minute ago, globaldiver said:

With such wealth, I can’t work out why they are down the bottom end of the Championship.

Badly run, FFP must be an issue. 

6 minutes ago, Stevowanderer said:

It was maybe a sideways move a decade ago but not anymore. They have incredible facilities, one of the wealthiest domestic owners in the country and in the championship. I'm sure they would be doubling or trebling his wages - as you say money talks. 

Agree. It’s mental how our fans view stuff at times. Aren’t our facilities portacabins?

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

They do not strike me as a club on the up despite the wealth of the owners, it is possible we replace them in the championship next year, that is why I said a sideways move for his career, definitely would offer him much larger salary.

If we're still in League one come the end of the season and they still want him he'll probably go 

£1m would be nice

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1611314357706657793?s=20&t=u9fFd8IoXI3kbknTqYiJgA

6 minutes ago, Big E said:

Agree. It’s mental how our fans view stuff at times. Aren’t our facilities portacabins?

If stoke go down and we go up, which is possible, isnt that a sideways step for his career?  

Edited January 31, 20233 yr by Mounts Kipper

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If stoke go down and we go up, which is possible isnt that a sideways step for his career?  

Yes, but technically a backwards move for him.

1 hour ago, globaldiver said:

With such wealth, I can’t work out why they are down the bottom end of the Championship.

Just look at Everton - without a decent infrastructure you can spend half a billion and still have nothing to show for it.

1 hour ago, Big E said:

Agree. It’s mental how our fans view stuff at times. Aren’t our facilities portacabins?

Our facilities at Lostock are pretty decent compared to others at this level - but nothing compared to what we had under Big Sam with the cryo chambers etc. I can imagine that further down the line we will be looking at developing Lostock properly or if planning is an issue maybe finding another training base again.

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1611314357706657793?s=20&t=u9fFd8IoXI3kbknTqYiJgA

Only 2 billion in the bank... poor bastards

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If stoke go down and we go up, which is possible, isnt that a sideways step for his career?  

I must be missing something as they are 4 points clear of the drop at the moment 

17 minutes ago, Stevowanderer said:

Just look at Everton - without a decent infrastructure you can spend half a billion and still have nothing to show for it.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

14 minutes ago, Big E said:

I must be missing something as they are 4 points clear of the drop at the moment 

So its not possible they can get relegated then... O.K.

17 minutes ago, Stevowanderer said:

Only 2 billion in the bank... poor bastards

Thats bet 365 not Stoke, if they ever pull out then big problems.

When Peter Goes they’ll go the same way as us. His daughter doesn’t give a toss about the club and the funding will stop. They’ve still got a good few on 35k+ a week 

ironically a lot of their fanbase want Peter gone. They’ve no idea.. 

Edited January 31, 20233 yr by barrycowdrill

57 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Thats bet 365 not Stoke, if they ever pull out then big problems.

You could argue that about nearly any club and it obviously it happened to us with Eddie, Wigan with Whelan.

Most owners drop out when they have to prioritise funding their other businesses or just run out of money. She makes £400m a year salary and is worth £12 billion... they are losing £26m a year. Drop in the ocean. Yes they could definitely be run better financially because £26m losses in the grand scheme of things is not sustainable but not sure she has a reason to back out. You never know though in football.

1 minute ago, Stevowanderer said:

You could argue that about nearly any club and it obviously it happened to us with Eddie, Wigan with Whelan.

Most owners drop out when they have to prioritise funding their other businesses or just run out of money. She makes £400m a year salary and is worth £12 billion... they are losing £26m a year. Drop in the ocean. Yes they could definitely be run better financially because £26m losses in the grand scheme of things is not sustainable but not sure she has a reason to back out. You never know though in football.

They lost over 50 million the year before, they bought the stadium for 33 million from themselves to avoid FFP Bet 365 wont fund these losses indefinitely.

Edited January 31, 20233 yr by Mounts Kipper

59 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

When Peter Goes they’ll go the same way as us. His daughter doesn’t give a toss about the club and the funding will stop. They’ve still got a good few on 35k+ a week 

ironically a lot of their fanbase want Peter gone. They’ve no idea.. 

She'd have to be pretty cold to destroy the local community and her father's legacy like that. But I suppose you don't get to £12bn net worth without having to make tough decisions and upsetting a few people on the way.

 

15 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

So its not possible they can get relegated then... O.K.

well are we getting promoted? 

She's already made plenty on the back of the community, and countless others like it.

It may actually suit her business case overall to gently fund a reasonable level of seasonal loss.

 

1 minute ago, Big E said:

well are we getting promoted? 

Very possible.. my view is yes.