Jesus Christ.....can't be those fuckers again...

I'd actually say the events in Berlin have been quite infrequent as opposed to events in the Middle East where it's almost an everyday occurrence, thus it's obvious common nature that the infrequent and rarer occasions get more media attention.

 

Furthermore, Europeans don't want to become martyrs for their religious beliefs like others do.....NO, we just want to lead a civilised Westernised life, not to be indoctrinated or brainwashed by some Stone Age bollocks supposedly given by a person no one has ever seen.

 

Also, thanks to ISIS retards chopping reporters heads off for fun to further their cause, a lot goes unreported as most reporters think "fuck that,I'm not going over there"

 

Obvious points can be picked out of my opinion, The Troubles being a classic example, but the original point stands that the Middle East sees everyday life and death in religion as their cause.

It's because Germany opened the door in the summer of 2015.

So this incident is of a direct consequence of that?

 

Who was to blame for Nice then?

I'd actually say the events in Berlin have been quite infrequent as opposed to events in the Middle East where it's almost an everyday occurrence, thus it's obvious common nature that the infrequent and rarer occasions get more media attention.

Furthermore, Europeans don't want to become martyrs for their religious beliefs like others do.....NO, we just want to lead a civilised Westernised life, not to be indoctrinated or brainwashed by some Stone Age bollocks supposedly given by a person no one has ever seen.

Also, thanks to ISIS retards chopping reporters heads off for fun to further their cause, a lot goes unreported as most reporters think "fuck that,I'm not going over there"

Obvious points can be picked out of my opinion, The Troubles being a classic example, but the original point stands that the Middle East sees everyday life and death in religion as their cause.

Well, I'm not comfortable with kids getting limbs blown off just cos they were unlucky enough to be born in a war zone

 

Some don't seem to give a fcuk

 

Each to their own

The point is that a couple of dozen die each time there's an atrocity

 

That number and more die every day in these shit holes folk escape from

 

Merkel has probably saved more lives than she's cost

 

But the ones she's saved aren't westerners

 

So, seemingly, it doesn't matter

 

I agree on the life saving bit and the no. of people dying. 

 

I just don't agree that questioning the policy of mass immigration (which wasn't totally benevolent it must be said) makes you a racist by default.  

 

There's an argument that says Merkel has failed the German people.  I don't side with or go against that view but is a worthwhile point of discussion.

 

 Miami also makes a good point about press restrictions; but my point was more of a social one where the press are concerned.  If we read every day about the atrocities we would all probably be more willing to help and sensitive to the peoples' plight.  I believe our media could do more.  The question is why don't they?

 

Jesus, if Lenny Henry can raise millions for African kids it shows what some sensitive and mass, positive PR can do . . .

 

edit - I believe our press should do more btw!

Edited December 31, 20169 yr by madthatter

Who mentioned racist

 

I just feel that all lives are equal

 

If 100 western lives are lost in saving 10000 arab lives, I'll live with that

Well, I'm not comfortable with kids getting limbs blown off just cos they were unlucky enough to be born in a war zone

Some don't seem to give a fcuk

Each to their own

I don't feel comfortable about kids losing their limbs on a daily basis, but that wasn't my point was it ?

 

Here's another view............ISIS want everyone to return to the Stone Ages and have fuck all to do with the Western way of life, yet they use modern technology to promote their utter bullshit and jejune bravado...........hypocritical at the most ?

I'd kill every member of ISIS in the worst way imaginable

 

What's that got to do with innocents

I'd kill every member of ISIS in the worst way imaginable

What's that got to do with innocents

ISIS and innocents rarely go in the same sentence, phrase etc.

 

They are indiscriminate.

 

There'll never be a peaceful solution to the Middle Eastern troubles.

ISIS and innocents rarely go in the same sentence, phrase etc.

 

They are indiscriminate.

 

There'll never be a peaceful solution to the Middle Eastern troubles.

So leave the middle east to it and let those that don't want to be there get the fuck out

Who mentioned racist

 

I just feel that all lives are equal

 

If 100 western lives are lost in saving 10000 arab lives, I'll live with that

 

Well Ghana white implied it by suggesting, rather sarcastically I assume, that the thread had a running theme that white lives are more important than brown; which is what my original post was referring to.  

 

It's not an easy one.  Imagine you're King of a land that is prospering and at peace.  Your neighbours, however, hate everything you stand for and a small minority that have a large influence would destroy your land given half a chance.

 

War breaks out in that land and 1000s of their people come to your borders begging.  What do you do?  

 

Merkel chose to let them in and treat them as a German citizen effectively.  Humanitarian reasons were not the only ones mind.   A small minority has murdered some of her people.  

 

If I was German I would be thinking that her policy, whilst possibly noble, was flawed.  

 

I've not really commented much on this thread as I think whichever way she went she was always going to come under fire from some quarters.  It's a shame that Syria's neighbours can't be more accommodating.

 

As an aside, if war broke out here in the UK would you expect to be welcomed to Saudi Arabia, as an e.g., with open arms and treated like Syrians were in Germany?   I'd be amazed and feel a debt of gratitude for life . . .

 

All lives are equal but politics, sadly, suggests otherwise.  I think my feeling is if you save lives at the cost of others I'm not sure how that can be justified?  Unless people willingly and consciously make that decision, as my Grandads did in WW2.

 

Sometimes shit happens and you have to take a big bite of the shitty sandwich you're served. 

Edited December 31, 20169 yr by madthatter

So leave the middle east to it and let those that don't want to be there get the fuck out

Ideally yes, but it'll never happen.

 

Too much money and politics involved. It's a never ending story.

Ideally yes, but it'll never happen.

 

Too much money and politics involved. It's a never ending story.

Correct

 

Which is why those who need help should be helped

 

And why there's no point in blaming what the mentalists do on anyone other than them

 

Otherwise you blame farage and his ilk for the likes of jo cox and anders brevik etc

To coin a phrase.

 

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

Chagrin.

 

"Annoyance or distress at having failed or been humiliated."

 

And that is you sir. When we on the right make a point you cannot refute, you either deflect or change the direction of the topic. You get annoyed and come out with some idiotic leftist crap.

 

I answered Casino with a straightforward argument which you could not refute. But because your mind was filled with ire at that point, like most leftists you go off at a tangent or attack or besmirch the contributor!

Edited December 31, 20169 yr by bgoefc

Correct

Which is why those who need help should be helped

And why there's no point in blaming what the mentalists do on anyone other than them

Otherwise you blame farage and his ilk for the likes of jo cox and anders brevik etc

Good points Zico, though it's virtually impossible to root out correctly the ones who need help.

How many come to Europe with the necessary documentation ?

A recent classic example were those "teenagers" at Calais.....Fuck me pink, they were older than Okocha's birth certificate....

 

The world these days isn't a pretty place.

I though chagrin was what happens during/after a heavy night on the chan?

 

No, sorry, that's Changrin  

Syrias neighbours have taken millions.. But I agree they should be more generous

Edited December 31, 20169 yr by Ghana White

Syrias neighbours have taken millions.. But I agree they should be more generous

Saudis should be helping for a start

 

But the west gave them a free pass to do what they want years ago in return for oil

 

So who's to blame now?

We could take millions like Syria's neighbours if we in a similar fashion put them in tents and feed them Pot Noodles but we rightly house and provide proper medical care to them. It is a not a valid comparison and should be challenged when the usual suspects wheel it out.

Saudis should be helping for a start

But the west gave them a free pass to do what they want years ago in return for oil

So who's to blame now?

Two quality points there Zico.

 

1 - Saudis..............oil.....money talks.

 

2 - Saudis..............Wahhabism.....

 

1 becomes 2...........2 becomes 1

I agree to be honest. I think the whole thing is beyond comprehension. I work with immigrants a lot and there's a lot wrong with our policy but the world's not perfect. It's a privilege to be British which a lot take for granted. To blame people like you or me for some nutcases and deny them that privilege is wrong.

Fascinating read for the JCL's to Wahhabism.

 

I've studied it for three years now...

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

 

Happy New Year to everyone on here.....may you all enjoy health,wealth and happiness in 2017 and beyond.

Edited December 31, 20169 yr by miamiwhite

 

I've not really commented much on this thread as I think whichever way she went she was always going to come under fire from some quarters.  It's a shame that Syria's neighbours can't be more accommodating.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36808038

 

The vast majority of Syrian refugees are being hosted in neighbouring countries. As well as the 2.5 million in Turkey, there are about one million in Lebanon - whose own population is only just over four million. Jordan has 628,000 and Egypt 117,000.

The point is that a couple of dozen die each time there's an atrocity

 

That number and more die every day in these shit holes folk escape from

 

Merkel has probably saved more lives than she's cost

 

But the ones she's saved aren't westerners

 

So, seemingly, it doesn't matter

So let's import it you fucking nugget. Then we can lose more white life's and then you can feel more comfortable with it.

Edited December 31, 20169 yr by Mounts Kipper

So let's import it you fucking nugget. Then we can lose more white life's and then you can feel more comfortable with it.

I think you've backed up my original point unfortunately

Always interesting to read others views and makes me ponder why they would hold them. For example, the rabid PLO supporting leftists who want to blame the west for everything (or at least demand that the west does the donkey work in cleaning up the mess) and apparently value western lives 10 times more important than arab ones?

 

Other than the provision of oil (which the locals would never have been able to develop the technology to extract) and what it has been able to finance in such things as thoroughbred horse racing, I am struggling to see what that region has actually contributed to world advancement unless you want to point to the development of creeds/beliefs which now cause more problems in this world than anything else? Dates? Camels milk?

 

I, and I suspect most, would be perfectly happy to leave them to it as we all know they would happily spend the next few centuries trying to wipe each other out. Then who would the bleeding hearts blame for the carnage?

 

i don't want to see even one more western life taken in the name of Allah. If I am honest, what happens over there might sicken me but if that's the way they are inclined, as believers in freedom of choice, who are we to intervene? .