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The Nhs Thread

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Read somewhere that some old dears go on perpetual cruise as it's cheaper than paying for a care home

I do remember a story about an old lass who lived on the QE2 as it was about the same price as a top spec sheltered apartment.

dunno where she went when the scrapped the thing

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    I was on the Bolton Hospital induction today. I learned a couple of interesting things I thought I'd share on here. Firstly our A&E department was designed to cater for around 65,000 patients

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Richard Harris and Thatcher stayed in top hotels in their final days...

 

I might book into a shithole but with a big rock of MDMA to suck on like a Werthers.

I do remember a story about an old lass who lived on the QE2 as it was about the same price as a top spec sheltered apartment.

dunno where she went when the scrapped the thing

They crushed it with her still in the cabin. She's now part of a Dacia exhaust and a hydraulic arm in a washing machine factory - RIP.

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Why a hotel? They won't look after you like a nursing home

 

Wipe your arse, get you in / out the bath etc

 

You might as well stay at home and get a live in nurse than move to the Dorchester

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I have to admit they were fantastic, looked after him and operated on him within a couple of days. We couldn't thank them enough for the way they handled it

 

Just wait for the midwives in a few weeks mate. Amazing human beings.

Agree with him on that bit about brexit, same in the US

Sensible idea from Jezza?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38608375

 

Most of them used to be run by local councils and it worked. Successive governments cut funding until it got to the stage that it was unsustainable. Care homes were then open by private companies who charge the NHS more than local authorities. The NHS can't afford this so people stay in hospital beds.

Most of them used to be run by local councils and it worked. Successive governments cut funding until it got to the stage that it was unsustainable. Care homes were then open by private companies who charge the NHS more than local authorities. The NHS can't afford this so people stay in hospital beds.

It's not the NHS who pay for the care homes most of the time. It's either the local authority or the individual. The NHS will only really contribute when the patient has specific nursing needs as opposed to general care needs.

 

Although not being able to discharge means that effectively - the NHS does pay for them.

I love NHS! In China it is very hard for people to get help. I come here and get my bad leg looked at for free! Long live the NHS! And ling live Bolton wanderer yeah

The mistake you're making is typing/spelling as you think a chink speaks

The mistake you're making is typing/spelling as you think a chink speaks

The second mistake is that China has a very proficient health service. I once passed a huge mansion type place with gardens and many fishing ponds in the middle of nowhere on a 4 hour journey into the wilderness to visit a plant, turns out it was a state mental health facility.

The mistake you're making is typing/spelling as you think a chink speaks

You won flied lice?

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Applications to study nursing at university have dropped by 23% this year. That's following the news that the bursary system has been scrapped and replaced with loans and course fees will be charged.

 

So you'd expect to come out of Uni with about £40,000 of debt and also be expected to work 37.5 hours a week for the best part of 3 years for no pay. Add to that the fact that it's likely to be more difficult to recruit from Europe over the next few years and it looks like our current problems are only going to get worse.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-38827189

That is just bloody stupid. I remember when the missus was a student nurse, she had to do placements, course work and attend Uni. She was doing about 50 hours a week without any bank shifts for some extra pennies.

Applications to study nursing at university have dropped by 23% this year. That's following the news that the bursary system has been scrapped and replaced with loans and course fees will be charged.

 

So you'd expect to come out of Uni with about £40,000 of debt and also be expected to work 37.5 hours a week for the best part of 3 years for no pay. Add to that the fact that it's likely to be more difficult to recruit from Europe over the next few years and it looks like our current problems are only going to get worse.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-38827189

 

Not that I don't agree that this isn't on...do applications still exceed places after this drop?

Not that I don't agree that this isn't on...do applications still exceed places after this drop?

I don't know. Nursing has always been a popular course so perhaps that's why the Government think they can afford to take the hit in applications?

I don't know. Nursing has always been a popular course so perhaps that's why the Government think they can afford to take the hit in applications?

 

 

id say that was a pretty key bit of information

I don't know. Nursing has always been a popular course so perhaps that's why the Government think they can afford to take the hit in applications?

 

 

I've never really understood why they haven't massively increased the number of places if there is excess demand rather than to be constantly stealing poorer country's staff.

id say that was a pretty key bit of information

Not if you're concerned about people from poorer backgrounds being discouraged from applying to join the profession. Or if you are concerned about the talent pool from which the universities can draw.

Not if you're concerned about people from poorer backgrounds being discouraged from applying to join the profession. Or if you are concerned about the talent pool from which the universities can draw.

 

 

you could say that about any degree

 

as a father of two kids who both have to pay their way, ive very little sympathy

 

 

you excluded, obvs :)

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Not if you're concerned about people from poorer backgrounds being discouraged from applying to join the profession. Or if you are concerned about the talent pool from which the universities can draw.

Presumably retention of staff is an increasing problem too. Surely this will get worse as new staff come into hospitals in crisis, massively in personal debt and stressed to fuck for the privilege.

 

I also don't understand the use of agency staff to the extent it apparently is. If positions are there can't agency staff just be employed full time?

Presumably retention of staff is an increasing problem too. Surely this will get worse as new staff come into hospitals in crisis, massively in personal debt and stressed to fuck for the privilege.

 

I also don't understand the use of agency staff to the extent it apparently is. If positions are there can't agency staff just be employed full time?

The agency staff thing is as much about flexibility as anything. So if there are severe shortages of nurses on a ward and they can't bring them in from other parts of the hospital - they'll hire agency staff. Although at Bolton - it happens pretty rarely. I think I've only ever been on a handful of shifts where an agency nurse has been brought in. Most of the time - everybody just has to muck in and make sure everything gets done (with what - even before allowing for any sickness - is already a poor nurse/patient ratio).

 

Cas - most degrees don't also expect you to work 37.5 hours a week. That's the distinction. New student nurses are now paying to go to work - and despite this myth that they're supernumerary - they take up a lot of the slack without which the wards would find it difficult to run.

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It really is amazing the breadth of services supplied under the NHS.

Yesterday I got an e-mail from my PCC which began:

"Your appointment with Miss S Cort is booked" and then gave the date and time.

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