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Allardyce

Quitting palace. Where next? Back to sun'lun?

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  • Mounts Kipper
    Mounts Kipper

    I will literally piss my sides when the great unwashed scouse cunts drive Sam out, the most delusional set of fuckwit fans ever.

  • aye   look at where he took us from and where he got us too and the situation we found ourselves in   you can bang on about the likes of Cid, McCann and Samuel, but look at the others he did great

  • Mounts Kipper
    Mounts Kipper

    Is it ok to now give Phil Gartside some credit for those signings? Without him Eddie D wouldn't of happened or any of the European ventures. Golden memories. Thanks P.G. RIP

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Clubs will be queuing up for sam.

 

I doubt this would be the case in our circle of life for PP.

 

What would be very amusing is if Sam came into a struggling club mid season and kept them up . . .  at the expense of Everton :) 

 

Can't really see them going down though whoever is in charge

 

 

Can't really see them going down though whoever is in charge

 

Me neither, and I don't think they were in great danger this season either really

The chosen one to return?

It will be Silva or Fonseca.....most likely Silva.

Moyes been potted too though... Or 'left' rather

It will be Silva or Fonseca.....most likely Silva.

 

Why would you go from Allardyce to Silva? Makes no sense. 

Why would you go from Allardyce to Silva? Makes no sense. 

 

the man they always wanted.

We get taken over by billionaires this week.

Sam finally has the opportunity to manage a stable Bolton Wanderers team again.

The great one returns, and get us promoted this season.

 

The season after we finish 6th, and European football comes home.

 

I’ve had 5 weetabixes this morning, don’t question me..,

Why would you go from Allardyce to Silva? Makes no sense. 

 

 

Only makes no sense if you don't have eyes and/or have a strange crush on gravy tits.

Only makes no sense if you don't have eyes and/or have a strange crush on gravy tits.

 

Makes no sense if you ignore the fact that Silva has had two English jobs and failed in both. In both those jobs his win % was below that of Allardyce's at Everton who has never been relegated as a manager. 

Makes no sense if you ignore the fact that Silva has had two English jobs and failed in both. In both those jobs his win % was below that of Allardyce's at Everton who has never been relegated as a manager. 

 

 

Context is key.

 

But I want Fonseca anyway.

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Context is key.

 

You mean, inventing some shit to support a crazy decision?

 

Sacking Allardyce for a proven winner in this country is one thing. Sacking him for someone who's had two goes and failed twice, is another. Especially when his first failure came in exactly the scenario that Allardyce has an extensive successful track record in.

You mean, inventing some shit to support a crazy decision?

 

Sacking Allardyce for a proven winner in this country is one thing. Sacking him for someone who's had two goes and failed twice, is another. Especially when his first failure came in exactly the scenario that Allardyce has an extensive successful track record in.

 

 

Actually Sams win % at Everton was 38%, Marco Silva career is 48%.

 

Koeman & Martinez % was higher than Sam.

 

But crack on.

That is what other fans will say about Bolton fans wanting Parkinson gone.

 

To Everton fans Allardyce was someone who "did the job" but didn't produce exciting boring football. He wasn't the "future" to "take them forward".

 

He was their Parkinson, to them at least.

Thing is, if they had given him time he would definitely have taken them forward. First thing any manager should do is sort out a leaky defence. Sort everything else after that. Allardyce would have done that if that delusional lot had given him time.

 

But that's the problem with modern football, and you could argue with this modern internet society in general, everybody wants everything NOW. Patience doesn't exist.

 

This daft notion of "playing football the right way" has also crept in over the last few years. Fuck sake, as long as you've scored more goals than the opposition come full time, who gives a shit?! West Ham started it.

 

Sadly I don't think we will ever see what Allardyce can do with an established top half side with a bit of money to spend.

With my eyes, he is crap...and the worst human ever at the club.

That's the weakest explanation I have ever read of why someone is the worst ever manager of a football club.You are a poor

communicator

Swap with Moyes?

 

Sam would be suited at West Ham - horrible, horrible club that they are.

Thing is, if they had given him time he would definitely have taken them forward. First thing any manager should do is sort out a leaky defence. Sort everything else after that. Allardyce would have done that if that delusional lot had given him time.

 

But that's the problem with modern football, and you could argue with this modern internet society in general, everybody wants everything NOW. Patience doesn't exist.

 

This daft notion of "playing football the right way" has also crept in over the last few years. Fuck sake, as long as you've scored more goals than the opposition come full time, who gives a shit?! West Ham started it.

 

Sadly I don't think we will ever see what Allardyce can do with an established top half side with a bit of money to spend.

 

 

That is not true at all, you can't "definitely " say he would have take us forward, as he has never ever done it before.

 

He also did NOT sure up the defence. We conceded more than we scored, which goes against one your other terrible points.

Actually Sams win % at Everton was 38%, Marco Silva career is 48%.

 

Koeman & Martinez % was higher than Sam.

 

But crack on.

 

In England Silva's is only just above 30. So the relevant part we're talking about here....

 

When Everton fans are moaning come October we can revisit this. I'll look forward to it. 

In England Silva's is only just above 30. So the relevant part we're talking about here....

 

When Everton fans are moaning come October we can revisit this. I'll look forward to it. 

 

 

Only relevant because it fits your argument ??!!

 

What he did at a big club is more relevant than Hull.

 

Context in everything. What he was doing with Watford before we messed it all up by unsettling him was very impressive, albeit it was a short period.

 

When he took over at Hull they was 20th, and he very almost saved them….even after having his best players sold.

 

Having said all that, I’m not sure I want him, and it’s a risk. BUT I see why it’s a risk worth taking.

This daft notion of "playing football the right way" has also crept in over the last few years. Fuck sake, as long as you've scored more goals than the opposition come full time, who gives a shit?! West Ham started it.

Football snobbery. West Ham, Newcastle and Everton are the most guilty of this, all who think they have a right to be top 6 but have won nothing between them in the last 23 years, and only had a handful of European ventures between them.

 

No coincidence that fans of all three wanted Sam out before he even got there, yet he improved them all in the time he was there. Delusional fans of clubs that are on a par with Burnley and Leicester.

Only relevant because it fits your argument ??!!

 

What he did at a big club is more relevant than Hull.

 

Context in everything. What he was doing with Watford before we messed it all up by unsettling him was very impressive, albeit it was a short period.

 

When he took over at Hull they was 20th, and he very almost saved them….even after having his best players sold.

 

Having said all that, I’m not sure I want him, and it’s a risk. BUT I see why it’s a risk worth taking.

 

He did well at Olympiakos......I don't think that is a good predictor for the premiership myself. 

 

But crack on.

 

Think given all your chopping and changing you should give him 3 years regardless of results and performances. After all it won't be hard for him to improve on 8th place, given how bad Allardyce was. 6th next season an absolute minimum after potting your worst manager of all time. Even 6th would be pretty poor. 

He did well at Olympiakos......I don't think that is a good predictor for the premiership myself. 

 

But crack on.

 

Think given all your chopping and changing you should give him 3 years regardless of results and performances. After all it won't be hard for him to improve on 8th place, given how bad Allardyce was. 6th next season an absolute minimum after potting your worst manager of all time. Even 6th would be pretty poor. 

 

 

Depends on what we spend, how we we do in cups, and how we compete with those above us.

 

These are important points, that people just ignore and point to our league position.

 

End does not justify the means.

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There’s a reason your going for ex Watford and Hull managers.

 

You won’t finish in the top 5 in our lifetime. You’re not winning any trophies any time soon either.

There’s a reason your going for ex Watford and Hull managers.

 

You won’t finish in the top 5 in our lifetime. You’re not winning any trophies any time soon either.

 

 

We have been top 5 in recent years, and that was with no money.

 

Im not over the moon with Silva, but thats who we wanted all along.

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Fonseca heavily linked with West Ham

 

be a race against time to see which fans are up in arms first with their most recent appointment...

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