2 hours ago, meanderson93 said:

I've not been on this thread in some time for the betterment of my mental health, but I had to just drop in and ask.

No well rounded and informed individual could possibly still be thinking of voting for Reform at this point? It's a retread of the worst government this country has ever seen, except now has a man at the helm who has failed to be elected as an MP 7 times before the last election.

I agree with you on Reform, however none of the other parties are offering much.
 

It is like watching Bolton, no matter which way you look at it there is a total lack of quality throughout. 

8 hours ago, Sweep said:

I don't necessarily agree, but I did just hear something mildly amusing...

With both Jenrick and Braverman defecting, they've managed to vastly improve the average IQ of both Reform and the Conservative Party

TBF its an old joke. AFAIK, first used with any notoriety by the NZ Prime Minister in the 80s Robert Muldoon.

Talking about Kiwis moving to Australia. Which arguably means me.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/570584/it-raises-the-iq-of-both-countries-how-muldoon-stole-a-joke-that-was-already-stolen

Incredible that the group of people who broke this country, are defecting to another party, as they’re dismayed at how broken the country is. 

1 hour ago, boltonboris said:

Incredible that the group of people who broke this country, are defecting to another party, as they’re dismayed at how broken the country is. 

The lunatics took over one asylum but have now left and have moved to a new one...

25 minutes ago, Dimron said:

The lunatics took over one asylum but have now left and have moved to a new one...

It certainly seems that way at the minute. We're in for a very bumpy few years I suspect. There will be more and more defections, primarily for self preservation, rather than for the betterment of the country. 

I can't see anything other than a hung parliament next time round, based on where we currently are, and that could make for some rather uneasy alliances, that could easily fall apart. 

8 hours ago, boltonboris said:

Incredible that the group of people who broke this country, are defecting to another party, as they’re dismayed at how broken the country is. 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Dimron said:

The lunatics took over one asylum but have now left and have moved to a new one...

I wouldn't have thought the likes of boltonbollocks boltonboris would remember Arthur Scargill, James Callaghan etc.

We all know who saved the country of course.

12 hours ago, Sweep said:

It certainly seems that way at the minute. We're in for a very bumpy few years I suspect. There will be more and more defections, primarily for self preservation, rather than for the betterment of the country. 

I can't see anything other than a hung parliament next time round, based on where we currently are, and that could make for some rather uneasy alliances, that could easily fall apart. 

Interesting to see who the Labour defection(s) will be. That will soon put the 'recycled Tories' bollocks to bed.

39 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Interesting to see who the Labour defection(s) will be. That will soon put the 'recycled Tories' bollocks to bed.

They've been teasing this for weeks to keep your widgie slightly less flacid. Sadly - for you - it'll be Kate Hoey, who left the Labour Party 6 years ago and is a proper fucking oddball.

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11 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I wouldn't have thought the likes of boltonbollocks boltonboris would remember Arthur Scargill, James Callaghan etc.

We all know who saved the country of course.

I grew up with the loony left.

These days we have the loony right!

23 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Interesting to see who the Labour defection(s) will be. That will soon put the 'recycled Tories' bollocks to bed.

We were promised a "well know name" defection from Labour would happen this week, so we'll soon find out. As for "recycled Tories" even you must admit it is looking a bit like that at the minute, as that seems to be who they are currently attracting

 

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23 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Interesting to see who the Labour defection(s) will be. That will soon put the 'recycled Tories' bollocks to bed.

It won't because it's not bollocks, it's real and happening

There's at least 20, I suspect there will be more

As a Reformer, how do you feel about it?

9 hours ago, Sweep said:

We were promised a "well know name" defection from Labour would happen this week, so we'll soon find out. As for "recycled Tories" even you must admit it is looking a bit like that at the minute, as that seems to be who they are currently attracting

 

You seem to have forgotten my assertion that an alliance/merger/pact would not be necessary as it would likely happen by gradual osmosis.

Surprised that anyone would be surprised.

6 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

The true Angel Of The North.

What a woman she was. The Goikoetxea of the Cabinet Room.

Life and football were better when she was around.

5 hours ago, Zico said:

It won't because it's not bollocks, it's real and happening

There's at least 20, I suspect there will be more

As a Reformer, how do you feel about it?

Merger or osmosis. Matters little to me.

The right side of politics had to get back to genuine Conservative values when faced with destructive socialism.

It is finally happening and not before time.

 

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

The true Angel Of The North.

What a woman she was. The Goikoetxea of the Cabinet Room.

Life and football were better when she was around.

You loved her so much, you fled the country when she was in power because "we could see the way things were going". 

2 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

You loved her so much, you fled the country when she was in power because "we could see the way things were going". 

 "fled". You aren't labelled Duck Egg for fuck all. Still, you got a 'like' from the biggest one on here.

The lure of filthy lucre pal. You reds wouldn't understand the concept. Had I not taken it the entire clan would be in a far poorer state. Property on only one continent instead of three. Perish the thought.

Yes, you are correct. I could see what was coming. Hardly a minaret in sight when I left.

Invasion is the mother of evacuation.

 

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

 "fled". You aren't labelled Duck Egg for fuck all. Still, you got a 'like' from the biggest one on here.

The lure of filthy lucre pal. You reds wouldn't understand the concept. Had I not taken it the entire clan would be in a far poorer state. Property on only one continent instead of three. Perish the thought.

Yes, you are correct. I could see what was coming. Hardly a minaret in sight when I left.

Invasion is the mother of evacuation.

 

Football wasn't better when she was around either.  Wanderers always do better under a Labour government

😉

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Merger or osmosis. Matters little to me.

The right side of politics had to get back to genuine Conservative values when faced with destructive socialism.

It is finally happening and not before time.

 

So not bollocks then

 

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Merger or osmosis. Matters little to me.

The right side of politics had to get back to genuine Conservative values when faced with destructive socialism.

It is finally happening and not before time.

 

So bringing in the folk from the conservatives that fucked the county up to solve the problems they caused whilst in charge of the place for nigh on 15yrs

Those bastards at GB news pushing more hate. 
 

 

3 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

So bringing in the folk from the conservatives that fucked the county up to solve the problems they caused whilst in charge of the place for nigh on 15yrs

Or did they?

Was it a tag line, brilliantly created by Labour before the last election, which stuck.

Look at the timeline.

Get in in 2010.

Have to deal with the aftermath of 2008, and the huge drop in the economy the world over.

10 years later, cop for an almost unique event, which killed millions and caused a huge drop in the economy.

2 years later have to deal with the start of a new war in Europe, with its inevitable spike in inflation, interest rates and economic effect.

Certainly not perfect by any means, and some huge mistakes-immigration the big one, and still borrowing high amounts.

Labour.

Get in in 2024.

No world wide economic collapse, no pandemic, and no new war.

More damage, more borrowing and more distrust within 14 months, as opposed to the previous 14 years. 

Led by a man who wants to throw our soldiers under the bus, can't say what a woman is, admits to preferring to be elsewhere rather than parliament, wants to give sovereignty away, hide behind international law (when it suits), can't lead his party, and is facing efforts from within to overthrow him.

That last part is reminiscent of the previous lot, but the rest are reasons why he's the most unpopular PM in history.