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1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

Farelli is the deputy political and foreign affairs expert on this football forum, of course his boss thowd Spider bollox is the one in command, between them, they gonna fix the world 🌎 

You sir are a king sized knob head 

2 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

We aren’t talking about that. It’s the humanitarian stuff we are too slow, situation is critical

Are you that thick? These folk are safe in France, they will be processed, anything to have a go at our government. Sad fuck your are. 

13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Are you that thick? These folk are safe in France, they will be processed, anything to have a go at our government. Sad fuck your are. 

If your 82 year old mum was shivering queuing up for 4 hours in calais to be told, fuck off to lille, id like to think you would see it differently

Problem is, these vile badtards have spent years trying to keep folk out, they now cant react at a time of real need

Boils my piss but not quite as much as their apologists

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

real need

Correct... these are people in real need. We've not done good enough in getting them over quicker. But most are safe where they are though.

If only we took this same hard-line approach before this.

11 minutes ago, Casino said:

If your 82 year old mum was shivering queuing up for 4 hours in calais to be told, fuck off to lille, id like to think you would see it differently

This lady has crossed Europe and numerous safe countries and safe havens that she could of taken advantage of.

I’d like to think she would be taken care of in France while the visa is issued, right or wrong our government have decided that folk are allowed into UK with families where, I think that allows 200,000 Ukrainians to settle here, I think that’s a very fair offer, however the checks have to be put in place to make sure that those arriving have families in the UK. 

There was a fella on lbc

Born n bred brit

2 kids, similar

Wifes a ukrainian

Got out to poland and got told to go to kyiv to get a fucking visa

16 minutes ago, Casino said:

Problem is, these vile badtards have spent years trying to keep folk out, they now cant react at a time of real need

Boils my piss but not quite as much as their apologists

They’ve not done a good job of that, perhaps if they had we’d be able to accept more Ukrainians with genuine needs rather than 20-30 year old economic migrants. 

Labours fault

Our support for Ukraine in my eyes:

Defensive weapons and training - excellent 👌 

Sanctions - Very poor initially but slowly getting better, work in progress. 

Refugees - Utter shitshow. Appalling scenes in Poland and France, lies made in Parliament and complete disorganisation and ineptitude.

My wish:

As Ukraine is being bombarded from the air still, as much anti air and also anti tank stuff we can throw at them.

Keep on with the sanctions and come to some agreements with the EU, US and other nations to supply gas and oil between nations (not sure how feasible that is in reality?)

Actually do what was promised would be a start. Allow those trying to get in on the current scheme to get here and do post checks. Folk shouldn't be queueing up in the cold for hours to be told to go somewhere else, that is not acceptable. 

Get staff into Poland, Hungary, etc and set up proper support centres giving help with visas, fast track for those with family, post processing, etc.

24 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Our support for Ukraine in my eyes:

Defensive weapons and training - excellent 👌 

Sanctions - Very poor initially but slowly getting better, work in progress. 

Refugees - Utter shitshow. Appalling scenes in Poland and France, lies made in Parliament and complete disorganisation and ineptitude.

My wish:

As Ukraine is being bombarded from the air still, as much anti air and also anti tank stuff we can throw at them.

Keep on with the sanctions and come to some agreements with the EU, US and other nations to supply gas and oil between nations (not sure how feasible that is in reality?)

Actually do what was promised would be a start. Allow those trying to get in on the current scheme to get here and do post checks. Folk shouldn't be queueing up in the cold for hours to be told to go somewhere else, that is not acceptable. 

Get staff into Poland, Hungary, etc and set up proper support centres giving help with visas, fast track for those with family, post processing, etc.

I amconfident we will sort out the visa issues, we’ve given over 200 million, thousands of anti tank weapons and sanctioned Russia, but some folk just can’t wait to jump in both feet when something goes wrong, yet no praise for the positive steps the UK has taken. Seriously haven’t a clue what’s up with the usual suspects. 

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12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

They’ve not done a good job of that, perhaps if they had we’d be able to accept more Ukrainians with genuine needs rather than 20-30 year old economic migrants. 

I rarely dip my toes in the political water here so might be missing something, but surely there are pretty much zero economic migrants in that sense given males aged 16-60 aren’t allowed to leave Ukraine?

10 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

I rarely dip my toes in the political water here so might be missing something, but surely there are pretty much zero economic migrants in that sense given males aged 16-60 aren’t allowed to leave Ukraine?

Think he was talking about other migrants, not from the Ukraine.

 

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Think he was talking about other migrants, not from the Ukraine.

 

Correct. 👍
 

it’s no wonder I end up in arguments. 🤣

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12 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Nothing is good enough whilst the Tories are in power, that's the bottom line.

Calling them shithouses won't bother them.... however calling them 'the usuals' proper triggers them 😊

Edited. 🤣

51 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Think he was talking about other migrants, not from the Ukraine.

 

 

47 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Correct. 👍
 

it’s no wonder I end up in arguments. 🤣

Noted, apologies. I’ll fuck back off now 😂 

5 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

 

Noted, apologies. I’ll fuck back off now 😂 

No worries. 🤣👍

Bagsy I'm Benicio Del Toro.

"han me the keys you fucking cocksucker, wha tha fuck?"

 

14 hours ago, Winchester White said:

 

Is that @jules_darbytop left in the wheelchair?

resting his knee.

7 hours ago, Sweep said:

Is that @jules_darbytop left in the wheelchair?

Fucking hell that’s good 🤣🤦🏽‍♂️

I wonder if the Soviet Union still existed and Russia pushed for the likes of Finland, Sweden, maybe Holland and other bordering  “Western” European States to join up to them, we might have a different view on whether we should be encouraging the likes of Ukraine into NATO and the EU?

39 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

I wonder if the Soviet Union still existed and Russia pushed for the likes of Finland, Sweden, maybe Holland and other bordering  “Western” European States to join up to them, we might have a different view on whether we should be encouraging the likes of Ukraine into NATO and the EU?

If Finland wanted to join the Warsaw Pact way back then, I'm sure we could have done fuck all to stop them.

But why the fuck would they, unless they really liked cabbage of course.

 

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