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2 hours ago, globaldiver said:

Pretending to be party of law and order. All they have is attack. Perhaps look at London to see the effect of Labour on law and order?

There’s been a pandemic and a war is happening. You forgot to mitigate.

Always, always mitigate.

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2 minutes ago, Spider said:

There’s been a pandemic and a war is happening. You forgot to mitigate.

Always, always mitigate.

Just as you do? Weird.

3 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Just as you do? Weird.

Exactly

Mitigation is key ☺️

Currently, pandemics and wars are convenient but whatever the zeitgeist happens to be will do just fine.

We all know the drill by now 👌

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

I’ve always said that Labours only chance is to attack the government  and it hasn’t been hard. So much to criticise. Eventually though, they will have to prove they are a government in waiting. Shite like this shows they don’t know how.

Again, I’ve said before, show the electorate why they would be better. Blair did that against a good stable government and won. I very much doubt that they are capable.

Against a good, stable government.

Fucking hell, that's some leap even for someone as myopic as you.

And again, they don't need to yet, I love the fact this is the line of attack that true blues are now reduced to. Shows exactly why Labour as so far ahead in the polls. Lovely. Just lovely stuff.

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think they have probably done enough damage for it to work.

That said, following a pandemic and a major war, things were never going to be particularly rosy, and that is where Labour have won the communication battle.

Remember the "don't let a good crisis go to waste" comment. Lots of similar comments and tweets in that vain, sometimes hugely inaccurate factually, but the government hasn't capitalised on them.

Perhaps its all starting now.

😂😂😂

You know as much about media comms as I do about growing leeks, to be fair.

34 minutes ago, Spider said:

Exactly

Mitigation is key ☺️

Currently, pandemics and wars are convenient but whatever the zeitgeist happens to be will do just fine.

We all know the drill by now 👌

Not convenient, a fact. It’s not mitigation it’s Whataboutism. The correct definition. Mention Labour and it’s thrown back at the current government. They are in power so obviously they deserve everything thrown at them.
Surely you want to know how the others would do better? 
Remember the Brexit vote? Sorry to bring it up but the EU had many problems (I agreed) that were rightly highlighted. Some thought that it would be better out (I didn’t) Some said it would be worse. 
Be careful what you wish for.
 


 

Stupid from Labour as it has got people distracted which is what the Tories have been trying to do for weeks 

15 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Against a good, stable government.

Fucking hell, that's some leap even for someone as myopic as you.

And again, they don't need to yet, I love the fact this is the line of attack that true blues are now reduced to. Shows exactly why Labour as so far ahead in the polls. Lovely. Just lovely stuff.

I said Stable. I could have said a government with a thriving economy. Blair had an oven ready government in waiting. That’s why they won. Starmer has a haphazard bunch of ex Corbyn followers hiding in the shadows. Myopic? Me? 😅

29 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

😂😂😂

You know as much about media comms as I do about growing leeks, to be fair.

You don' think Labour have communicated their cause better then the conservatives then?

As it happen, we ALL get to see/hear communications as they're part of everyday life. As such we are all able to make a reasoned assessment of them.

So your usual patronising, self oppinionated ballooning is meaningless and irrelevant.

 

56 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Skeletons everywhere.

Indeed there are

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Skeletons everywhere.

Put your head above the parapet and……….

Labour, not you😊

 

5 hours ago, globaldiver said:

Pretending to be party of law and order. All they have is attack. Perhaps look at London to see the effect of Labour on law and order?

Only 6% of burglaries get solved in the UK as a whole. The Tories have done a great job on law and order. 

6 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

And there’s more.

As we are going back to 2010 (13 years) Kier Starmer was Director of Public Prosecutions between 2008 - 2013. Rishi Sunak became an MP in 2015. 
Again, look at the replies from Labour supporters. Has the Labour Twitter account been hacked?😊

 

That one's fair enough. The other one just seemed a bit distasteful.

I've no problem with Labour nailing the fuckers generally

Sunak can always try coming back and saying it's nowt to do with him, he was busy making millions at the time. Let's see how that one works for him 😉

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Put your head above the parapet and……….

Labour, not you😊

 

Wasn’t me

was Covid m’lud

😇

This is a great Twitter account and an even better video. 

🤣

 

11 minutes ago, lobbypond said:

🤣

 

So it starts.

Labour had policies that did not get them elected so they can either stick with them or change them. 
 

 

48 minutes ago, Ani said:

So it starts.

Labour had policies that did not get them elected so they can either stick with them or change them. 
 

 

To be fair, he's rather shamelessly and cynically done an about face on a lot of the promises he made in his leadership election campaign

I agree with a lot of what he's done but it's a valid line of attack

1 hour ago, Ani said:

So it starts.

Labour had policies that did not get them elected so they can either stick with them or change them. 
 

 

That's not policy change that is completely contradicting yourself. 

We’ve had 12 years of folk defending leaders who lie through their teeth.

Plus ça change

I'm really enjoying some of the tied dyed blues takong pot shots as their party tries to claw back a semblance of respectable polling figure.

Shows how far behind they have fallen.

As for changing from the leadership campaign, it was all part of the strategy - get in power and then take the first two years changing the party from within. Marginalising the far left, root out the antisemitism, getting back on track as a credible and therefore electable party.

I applaud Starmer and his team for giving me my party back and for giving the country an electable alternative.

As for a credible line of attack, it's dodgy ground for the Tories that one, as they are going to have to convince the public they are not just re-electing the same party, but a brand new version of it - and with many policies in direct conflict with the last three leaders. That in itself is a very glass houses strategy, and easy to pull apart.

It's very simple people.

Just look at the Tory government and remember they are a bunch of cunts.

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