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Politics

What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

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4 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

This is  Wanderersways. It’s not Question Time. Keep biting.👍

Old man jokes.

Ageist. 

Anyway, who is a tree hugger?

11 hours ago, gonzo said:

Freedom of movement across Europe has a lot to answer for the continent is riddled with economic migrants, it’s no wonder numbers are up travelling to the UK the Dutch government has collapsed because it can’t agree on the numbers of immigrants and how and who to reject,  it is a complete shitshow, the EU have a lot to answer for and have encouraged folk to try there luck the numbers are ever increasing and still they fail to reverse one of the most stupid policies ever thought up. Reinstate proper borders and that might help at least reduce it. That’s the real message we should take from that article… sadly some folk can’t see wood from the trees.. Brexit issue my arse…. Brexit  and tighter border controls is the solution. Stick your freedom of movement where the sun don’t shine. 

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36 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Freedom of movement across Europe has a lot to answer for the continent is riddled with economic migrants, it’s no wonder numbers are up travelling to the UK the Dutch government has collapsed because it can’t agree on the numbers of immigrants and how and who to reject,  it is a complete shitshow, the EU have a lot to answer for and have encouraged folk to try there luck the numbers are ever increasing and still they fail to reverse one of the most stupid policies ever thought up. Reinstate proper borders and that might help at least reduce it. That’s the real message we should take from that article… sadly some folk can’t see wood from the trees.. Brexit issue my arse…. Brexit  and tighter border controls is the solution. Stick your freedom of movement where the sun don’t shine. 

Surely we should criticise our government more who have had control for years and years.

The freedom of movement statement. Wow. I’m not sure you believe that? 
 

Its a strange time when people want to make something that was easy a lot harder. Really bizarre times

51 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Freedom of movement across Europe has a lot to answer for the continent is riddled with economic migrants, it’s no wonder numbers are up travelling to the UK the Dutch government has collapsed because it can’t agree on the numbers of immigrants and how and who to reject,  it is a complete shitshow, the EU have a lot to answer for and have encouraged folk to try there luck the numbers are ever increasing and still they fail to reverse one of the most stupid policies ever thought up. Reinstate proper borders and that might help at least reduce it. That’s the real message we should take from that article… sadly some folk can’t see wood from the trees.. Brexit issue my arse…. Brexit  and tighter border controls is the solution. Stick your freedom of movement where the sun don’t shine. 

Brexit was always migration driven.

Brexit was meant to help us control our own borders.

Hows it all working out?

13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Very old news… the EU has the same issue, it’s quite easy to solve, and even the EU will solve it. 

It might be old news but there is no solution yet to the rules of origin law which will be in place next year. 70% of this companies vans are sold in mainland Europe so without an agreement with the EU they are finished. #brexit benefits

1 hour ago, tomski said:

Surely we should criticise our government more who have had control for years and years.

The freedom of movement statement. Wow. I’m not sure you believe that? 
 

Its a strange time when people want to make something that was easy a lot harder. Really bizarre times

He'll have a fit when "freedom of movement" is brought back, because it will be within the next five years

1 hour ago, Farrelli said:

It might be old news but there is no solution yet to the rules of origin law which will be in place next year. 70% of this companies vans are sold in mainland Europe so without an agreement with the EU they are finished. #brexit benefits

I’ll have you a little bet it will be solved with little fuss when it needs to be. That’ll be another argument from remainers consigned to the bin…. Next. 

12 minutes ago, Sweep said:

He'll have a fit when "freedom of movement" is brought back, because it will be within the next five years

Brought back where? UK? any party put that in their manifesto are committing political suicide. Any how explain who, how and for what reason it’ll be brought back?  

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1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Brexit was always migration driven.

Brexit was meant to help us control our own borders.

Hows it all working out?

A lot better than it is for the rest of the EU. See Netherlands government collapsing as a benchmark. 

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Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

Brought back where? UK… any party put that in their manifesto are committing political suicide. Any how explain who, how and for what reason it’ll be brought back?  

I suspect it'll be brought back slowly. Firstly, via Horizon Europe, with participants of that being given the right of freedom of movement. Next, they'll hugely relax the laws for seasonal workers, and allow then to come just by filling a "visa on arrival" type form. Next, a softening on the Erasmus programme, which will allow students freedom to move about a bit. 

It'll take a few years, but I do honestly think we'll slowly creep it back in. I'm not saying it's good or bad, I just think it'll happen

1 hour ago, tomski said:

Surely we should criticise our government more who have had control for years and years.

The freedom of movement statement. Wow. I’m not sure you believe that? 
 

Its a strange time when people want to make something that was easy a lot harder. Really bizarre times

Your second point I wholeheartedly believe it… as for your 3rd point, EU have created the issue, massive reason that we voted leave, you can’t stay part of a union that creates the problem even though the EU Dublin agreement allows a few to be shipped back. 

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9 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I suspect it'll be brought back slowly. Firstly, via Horizon Europe, with participants of that being given the right of freedom of movement. Next, they'll hugely relax the laws for seasonal workers, and allow then to come just by filling a "visa on arrival" type form. Next, a softening on the Erasmus programme, which will allow students freedom to move about a bit. 

It'll take a few years, but I do honestly think we'll slowly creep it back in. I'm not saying it's good or bad, I just think it'll happen

None of those are unfettered freedom of movement, I’ll hang my hat that unfettered freedom of movement will never happen again in the UK. 

Isn't FoM a consequence of being in the single market? 

9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

None of those are unfettered freedom of movement, I’ll hang my hat that unfettered freedom of movement will never happen again in the UK. 

You'd be happy enough with the above though? 

If they do ever relax the rules for unskilled/seasonal workers, then that's almost as good as unfettered. 

It of course may never happen, but I think they'll do something to make it easier for people to come here, to plug the employment gaps that we have, as its clear that or own feckless and lazy won't do it (even though it was suggested that they'd be made to pick up the slack) 

2 hours ago, Sweep said:

You'd be happy enough with the above though? 

If they do ever relax the rules for unskilled/seasonal workers, then that's almost as good as unfettered. 

It of course may never happen, but I think they'll do something to make it easier for people to come here, to plug the employment gaps that we have, as its clear that or own feckless and lazy won't do it (even though it was suggested that they'd be made to pick up the slack) 

Allowing seasonal workers and folk to fill job roles isn’t allowing unfettered freedom of movement… it’s clear from your answer that you don’t think it’ll happen either… just trying to stir methinks. 

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Allowing seasonal workers and folk to fill job roles isn’t allowing unfettered freedom of movement… it’s clear from your answer that you don’t think it’ll happen either… just trying to stir methinks. 

I do think something will happen with regards to FoM and it'll be something that a lot of people won't like, although a lot of people also won't be arsed. 

The Europe Horizon deal comes under the jurisdiction of the ECJ....and people said we'd never be in that position ever again, but it's barely getting a mention....so we can't assume it'll not happen. 

3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Allowing seasonal workers and folk to fill job roles isn’t allowing unfettered freedom of movement… it’s clear from your answer that you don’t think it’ll happen either… just trying to stir methinks. 

Why not all the asylum seekers stuck in the Govt backlog do some seasonal work ? 

18 minutes ago, Ani said:

Why not all the asylum seekers stuck in the Govt backlog do some seasonal work ? 

Because until they are vetted and approved for staying they shouldn’t be allowed to, what if someone dangerous is let out to work and commits a terrorist offence, then the  government would be in big trouble. 

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8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Because until they are vetted and approved for staying they shouldn’t be allowed to, what if someone dangerous is let out to work and commits a terrorist offence, then the  government would be in big trouble. 

'Let out to work ' they live in hotels unmonitored and/or supervised

 

Woke leftist screecher with ace tits.

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