Politics

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Corrected for you. 

Unless you believe him that the UK is actually like North Korea. 

There are shortages of some basic items, but it's more because Monteiths Crushed Apple Cider and Pantherella socks just aren't in demand. Trifle remains plentiful. 

The UK is like North Korea because a bunch of divorcees and mentalists on Twitter tells him it is.

[boltonboris]

34 minutes ago, Spider said:

The UK is like North Korea because a bunch of divorcees and mentalists on Twitter tells him it is.

As opposed to sending the army into cities that don’t vote for you and showing military might at sporting events…

[Cheese]

Well at least Bolty has admitted he's racist at last, because it's a "natural instinct" that's beyond his control.

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Corrected for you. 

Unless you believe him that the UK is actually like North Korea. 

There are shortages of some basic items, but it's more because Monteiths Crushed Apple Cider and Pantherella socks just aren't in demand. Trifle remains plentiful. 

He's going to romp in matey. Enjoy.

[Sweep]

17 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

He's going to romp in matey. Enjoy.

He may well do, that could be frightening, going from a handful of MPs to running the country. An epic rise, no doubt, but fraught with danger for whole if the UK. 

 

[gonzo]

The migrant/boat stuff is a massive issue in terms of votes and the general public.

But if reform get in they've got problems to sort that are not even in the same stratosphere as that issue, despite it being headline/vote winning news.

The economy isn't far off imploding. 

The bond markets are ticking bomb

 

[Dimron]

12 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

We need to see the person. Blair - whether you like him or not - was a genius at this sort of stuff. We need that now.

Blair and Brown were responsible for creating the current overblown "presidential" style of government after they witnessed Clinton's campaign in the US... they tried it over here and it stuck hence Downing Street becoming like the White House.

As I have stated, Westminster needs a hefty cut back... "drain the swamp" 

[Dimron]

13 hours ago, mickbrown said:

‘ave it, you gobshite. 
 

Fucking beautiful. 
 

 

 
 

Farage is supposed to be supporting "free speech"... look what his Reform Council leader has done in Nottingham, banning the local press...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cger45p0lv0o

 

[mickbrown]

30 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Farage is supposed to be supporting "free speech"... look what his Reform Council leader has done in Nottingham, banning the local press...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cger45p0lv0o

 

He’s a fucking weasel. 

[mickbrown]

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

He is the ultimate racist  rapist  racist thicko is Firthy. Must have been in NF or the BNP in a previous life. The converts are always the most zealous.

You may joke but there is a at least one amongst us who was a fully paid up BNP member. 
 

Each to their own I suppose. 

[Sweep]

33 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Farage is supposed to be supporting "free speech"... look what his Reform Council leader has done in Nottingham, banning the local press...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cger45p0lv0o

 

Farage wants anything but free speech, I think we all know that. Or, to put it another way, he's happy with free speech, as long as it's what he wants to hear.

As @gonzo says above, the current "big thing" is migrant/boat related, there is no doubt about that, if there was a GE tomorrow, I don't doubt Reform would become the largest party. They're a one policy party (and let's be honest, they're pretty much a one person party) - at the minute, but they don't need any other policies.

In the same way that for the last few years that all Labour had to do, was not be the Conservatives. Nobody cared what Labours manifesto was, they just wanted rid of The Conservative Party, and whilst things aren't going as well as we might like, I think most are happy that set of absolute cunts got their arses handed to them in the way they did..

Anyway, if, and I don't think they will, the Labour Party can get to grips with these boats and the housing/return of illegal immigrants, then Reform will have to find something else to talk about, and they'll slowly become less relevant. As things stand, everything is playing right into the hands of Farage, which will get him sweating soon, as no way does he really want the top job, as he may have to do some real work.

[Cheese]

12 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Farage wants anything but free speech, I think we all know that. Or, to put it another way, he's happy with free speech, as long as it's what he wants to hear.

As @gonzo says above, the current "big thing" is migrant/boat related, there is no doubt about that, if there was a GE tomorrow, I don't doubt Reform would become the largest party. They're a one policy party (and let's be honest, they're pretty much a one person party) - at the minute, but they don't need any other policies.

In the same way that for the last few years that all Labour had to do, was not be the Conservatives. Nobody cared what Labours manifesto was, they just wanted rid of The Conservative Party, and whilst things aren't going as well as we might like, I think most are happy that set of absolute cunts got their arses handed to them in the way they did..

Anyway, if, and I don't think they will, the Labour Party can get to grips with these boats and the housing/return of illegal immigrants, then Reform will have to find something else to talk about, and they'll slowly become less relevant. As things stand, everything is playing right into the hands of Farage, which will get him sweating soon, as no way does he really want the top job, as he may have to do some real work.

Farage will do fuck all as PM. Like his hero Trump, he'll use his position to enrich himself and his mates, and the country will be left to rot. It'll be austerity on steroids.

[mickbrown]

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Farage will do fuck all as PM. Like his hero Trump, he'll use his position to enrich himself and his mates, and the country will be left to rot. It'll be austerity on steroids.

Aye. And their core support will bear the brunt. Stupid fuckers. 

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Aye. And their core support will bear the brunt. Stupid fuckers. 

Who would you say has done the most in their first year so far. Trump or Starmer 

[bolty58]

31 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

You may joke but there is a at least one amongst us who was a fully paid up BNP member. 
 

Each to their own I suppose. 

It's him isn't it!!!!????? 

[bolty58]

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Aye. And their core support will bear the brunt. Stupid fuckers. 

 Like the Labour voters are now? Just wait til RR fucks them up the arse in November.

Stupid fuckers.

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

It's him isn't it!!!!????? 

Nope. 

[mickbrown]

5 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

 Like the Labour voters are now? Just wait til RR fucks them up the arse in November.

Stupid fuckers.

We’ll see eh?

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

Who would you say has done the most in their first year so far. Trump or Starmer 

 - Trump clearly has

 

Although, if you go back through this thread, you'll see that we have to judge Starmer today, but we should only judge Trump at the end of his term. It is odd, how they both get different timescales.

I do actually think that Starmer is struggling, he's just not got the "oomph" required. I'd also be surprised if Starmer sees the full term, especially if things don't improve over the next 12-18 months, then we could see a GE earlier than expected.

I look forward to seeing how RR will deliver this budget in November - she won't, I believe, directly make any changes to income tax of employee NI, but she's definitely going to tax the common man, albeit indirectly. That's what happens when you rely on economic growth, which was never really going to happen as a result of Brexit (amongst other things) 

[royal white]

15 minutes ago, Sweep said:

 - Trump clearly has

 

Although, if you go back through this thread, you'll see that we have to judge Starmer today, but we should only judge Trump at the end of his term. It is odd, how they both get different timescales.

I do actually think that Starmer is struggling, he's just not got the "oomph" required. I'd also be surprised if Starmer sees the full term, especially if things don't improve over the next 12-18 months, then we could see a GE earlier than expected.

I look forward to seeing how RR will deliver this budget in November - she won't, I believe, directly make any changes to income tax of employee NI, but she's definitely going to tax the common man, albeit indirectly. That's what happens when you rely on economic growth, which was never really going to happen as a result of Brexit (amongst other things) 

It’s when you get racist thickos like @Cheese who claim “Farage will do nothing like Trump” yet so far it’s quite clear Trump has done a lot better than Starmer. The person he voted for. 

[Sweep]

9 minutes ago, royal white said:

It’s when you get racist thickos like @Cheese who claim “Farage will do nothing like Trump” yet so far it’s quite clear Trump has done a lot better than Starmer. The person he voted for. 

I suppose you also have to look at who, of the two of them, inherited the bigger shit show and mess to sort out.

Also, rightly or wrongly, anything Trump does will have an immediate impact on the global scale, as he's leader of one of the two most powerful nations on Earth. Starmer is leader of a bit part player on the periphery of Europe.

As I've said before, I have my own mind, and as such don't feel obliged to support and stick with any single party, no matter what (unlike some). Usually, I'd lean more the way of the Conservative party, but they needed to go, and Labour was the only choice. Are they better or worse? - who knows, we'll see at the end of their term. I don't trust either of them, and distrust Reform even more. British politics is absolutely fucked at the minute, the biggest tell on this, is the fact that people are actually talking about Farage being the leader of the country in a few years time, I don't think it'll actually happen, but the fact it's being spoken about shows how fucked we really are. 

[Cheese]

Donald Trump is a paedophile. There is no other explanation for him threatening Republican Representatives who continue to push for the Epstein files to be released - especially when one of his campaign promises was to release them. Knowing that, I can only conclude that those who support him are either paedophile apologists, or paedos themselves.

[Not in Crawley]

2 hours ago, Dimron said:

Blair and Brown were responsible for creating the current overblown "presidential" style of government after they witnessed Clinton's campaign in the US... they tried it over here and it stuck hence Downing Street becoming like the White House.

As I have stated, Westminster needs a hefty cut back... "drain the swamp" 

Downing street hasn't become like the white house and we dont have a president.

What 'hefty cut back' and dont start bleating on about civil servants please.

[Not in Crawley]

Who the bleeding hell us saying 'whi are done better in their first year' as though its like a political league.

Numb as a piss stone is RW.

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Who the bleeding hell us saying 'whi are done better in their first year' as though its like a political league.

Numb as a piss stone is RW.

No one. They said “who”

“Whi are done” what even is that? Welsh? 

 

It’s called irony isn’t it? 😂