What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

2 hours ago, Spider said:

Yeah

Just him

Everyone on the right was just there for a tea party and is completely innocent.

Oh hang on, you’re probably fishing/fiddling again aren’t you? Tsk.

Its genuinely a bit odd how some will on here will defend anything said or done by their 'side' (again like its a football team) 

Personally, given what will come - and there will be more - Mandelson will need removing, you won't hear any defence from me, nor the red face rhetoric of he's some sort of gay pedophile unless its proven.

Its best to let the fools be foolish, get blindsided by hunkering down on 'support' whilst the rest of us make decisions based on the best available facts at the time.

Its also odd behavior that is seemingly and sadly becoming more prevelant. I certainly dont tar members of the Conservative Party with this brush as I have many friends who are and whose politics I often broadly agree with (they are generally one nationers however if that still means anything) more than say the more left wing of the Labour party. But to understand this takes a modicum of time, thought and understanding. Something a few of here sadly lack, hence the domination by the loudest empty cans usually making the most noise on these topics.

And when certain people that are their champions are found to fail though their lies, empty promises and general anti answers to complex problems, they quickly scurry under the 'every politican is shit' stone, with bleating that is undeserving of even a bright year 7 kid. The political equivalent of taking your ball home because things didnt go the way you wanted and were found wanting.

5 hours ago, kent_white said:

Massive jump this Cheese. I've not seen anything to suggest anybody on either side is a paedo. 

Some messages that don't look great in the fullness of time but that's about it.

We can't just go locking people of because we find them guilty by association. 

Even the Trump thing I posted the other day doesn't really amount to much apart from some excruciating embarrassment for Trump (if he is self aware enough to even care which is unlikely). 

The voice of reason once again.

I wonder if any of these 'guilt by association' types suffered from rape fantasies?

4 hours ago, bolty58 said:

The voice of reason once again.

I wonder if any of these 'guilt by association' types suffered from rape fantasies?

The irony here is Bolty is obsessively fantasising about another man having rape fantasies.

By the way, you declared Mandelson a paedophile because of his association with Epstein. I assume you extend that same assumption to Trump?

23 minutes ago, Cheese said:

The irony here is Bolty is obsessively fantasising about another man having rape fantasies.

By the way, you declared Mandelson a paedophile because of his association with Epstein. I assume you extend that same assumption to Trump?

Bolty doesn't do irony.

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Bolty doesn't do irony.

The fkin Irony! 

Not sure what to make of this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/sep/10/england-fans-chants-cast-keir-starmer-as-first-prime-minister-to-become-the-enemy

Football and politics eh! 😀

1 hour ago, royal white said:

The fkin Irony! 

 They are priceless aren't they. Old Nicky baby is an utter cock but his old mate blhoward will be there to back him up.

I see NIC's glorious leader is sticking by his mate 'Peter' at the moment. I'll give it 48 hours. "The U turn we had to have".

Did I just get an unfunny Bolty nickname? Wonderful 🤩

Mandleson's gone.

2 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Mandleson's gone.

Good.

14 hours ago, Winchester White said:

WTF does this even mean?

All a bit late now seeing as he's gone, but my thought process was... in order to get close to Trump you need to be his buddy, I could imagine them discussing trade deals over a brew and the conversation going:

Kinnell what are we going to do about the Epstein shite?

Dunno Don, we'll just have to tough it out

Whattif I say this and you deny that and so on...

Oh yeah, what are we supposed to be discussing? Oh that... Fukkit zero percent on everything mate

3 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Mandleson's gone.

Good. Always been on the edge of acceptability wrt character and behaviours.

Also good in that for a little while longer it shows in UK politics at least there is still a sense of right/wrong, and people need to be held accountable to standards of decency.  Well done the media for playing their part in this.

Hopefully next up will be how Farage’s partner bought that house in Clacton in her name without a mortgage.

1 hour ago, Bertie said:

 

Hopefully next up will be how Farage’s partner bought that house in Clacton in her name without a mortgage.

Watch the bastard squirm

We're going to run out of politicians at this rate... time for Chat GPT to take over and sell Westminster to Alton Towers

These dreamers. Farage will be as Teflon as The Don.

5 hours ago, Bertie said:

Good. Always been on the edge of acceptability wrt character and behaviours.

Also good in that for a little while longer it shows in UK politics at least there is still a sense of right/wrong, and people need to be held accountable to standards of decency.  Well done the media for playing their part in this.

Hopefully next up will be how Farage’s partner bought that house in Clacton in her name without a mortgage.

The BBC have already gone to extreme lengths to try to determine just this.

Reporter earlier explaining that they have gone into the finances of his partner's family in detail.

Not quite sure how a journalist can ascertain exactly how much money someone has, but that's their job I suppose. 

If something is found, then it will be out like a shot, and those poll leads may start to come down.

No doubt we'll find out in good time.

Agreed - no problem if all above board.  All we can ask is the same level of scrutiny, standards and judgement applied fairly to all. 

8 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Agreed - no problem if all above board.  All we can ask is the same level of scrutiny, standards and judgement applied fairly to all. 

Yep.

Just read the bbc article online, and they infer that his partner's family didn't have the wealth to fund her.

As above, looking at records of their business and property would surely only go a certain way- could they know what savings/inheritance etc that her parents already had?

That's why they, or anyone, should make sure they have their ducks in a row: if they don't and the evidence isn't there then firstly, they appear ridiculous and/or to have an agenda, and secondly, it may actually allow whoever is being investigated to get away with something.

I think a quote in the article from Farage in November, would suggest there maybe something to look at, but of itself, it's somewhat tenuous. They will need something more.

14 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Yep.

Just read the bbc article online, and they infer that his partner's family didn't have the wealth to fund her.

As above, looking at records of their business and property would surely only go a certain way- could they know what savings/inheritance etc that her parents already had?

That's why they, or anyone, should make sure they have their ducks in a row: if they don't and the evidence isn't there then firstly, they appear ridiculous and/or to have an agenda, and secondly, it may actually allow whoever is being investigated to get away with something.

I think a quote in the article from Farage in November, would suggest there maybe something to look at, but of itself, it's somewhat tenuous. They will need something more.

If Farage has breached the MPs Code of Conduct (he is not a Minister as Raynor was) the maximum would be suspension and maybe a recall petition if 10% of his constituents desire, which will result in a local election...  but the buggers will probably re-elect him!

3 minutes ago, Dimron said:

If Farage has breached the MPs Code of Conduct (he is not a Minister as Raynor was) the maximum would be suspension and maybe a recall petition if 10% of his constituents desire, which will result in a local election...  but the buggers will probably re-elect him!

They would. With an increased share of the vote. Won't be necessary though.

On 11/09/2025 at 17:18, bolty58 said:

I see NIC's glorious leader is sticking by his mate 'Peter' at the moment. I'll give it 48 hours. "The U turn we had to have".

Nothing to add.

7 minutes ago, Dimron said:

If Farage has breached the MPs Code of Conduct (he is not a Minister as Raynor was) the maximum would be suspension and maybe a recall petition if 10% of his constituents desire, which will result in a local election...  but the buggers will probably re-elect him!

As with peadophiles, it’s ok so long as you’re pissing off people you don’t like.

 

10 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

They would. With an increased share of the vote. Won't be necessary though.

Wrong on all 3 counts.  You’ll see.  We’re not like the US.  The good people of Clacton will kick Farage out if his second home hypocrisy is proven. MMW. YHIHF. etc etc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yq455w36vo

Some interesting comments from his own side 🤔 

4 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yq455w36vo

Some interesting comments from his own side 🤔 

Starmer is on borrowed time.

This Mandelson situation is arguably the most damaging of all for him.

All this is repeating what has happened before, indeed I heard a comment this morning that Tory MPs have got PTSD from witnessing the same sort of infighting amongst different factions of a party.

Having not got rid of Lucy Powell much earlier when she made her comments, he has now created an enemy of her by his reshuffle, and it has backfired now that she has a strong chance of deputy leader.

Burnham is now on manoeuvres, and he apparently is in the same camp as Powell. 

Labour backbenchers are now breaking ranks as they can see the writing is on the wall too.

Has starmer got the balls to threaten his party with an election if they don't get behind him? I doubt it, and I'm not sure it would work anyway.

Just like the Conservatives, they have lost much of their core vote, have been caught up in the wave "progressive" bullshit and can't find a way out.

The nation needs a strong leader, more so now, and we simply don't have one. He's done well in some regards- notably with support for Ukraine, and seemingly with Trump, but on the domestic stage he's fucked.

I initially reckoned he'd be gone by spring, but my lad said by Christmas- I'm increasingly thinking he's right.

Budget in November, maybe the last straw.

 

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Starmer is on borrowed time.

This Mandelson situation is arguably the most damaging of all for him.

All this is repeating what has happened before, indeed I heard a comment this morning that Tory MPs have got PTSD from witnessing the same sort of infighting amongst different factions of a party.

Having not got rid of Lucy Powell much earlier when she made her comments, he has now created an enemy of her by his reshuffle, and it has backfired now that she has a strong chance of deputy leader.

Burnham is now on manoeuvres, and he apparently is in the same camp as Powell. 

Labour backbenchers are now breaking ranks as they can see the writing is on the wall too.

Has starmer got the balls to threaten his party with an election if they don't get behind him? I doubt it, and I'm not sure it would work anyway.

Just like the Conservatives, they have lost much of their core vote, have been caught up in the wave "progressive" bullshit and can't find a way out.

The nation needs a strong leader, more so now, and we simply don't have one. He's done well in some regards- notably with support for Ukraine, and seemingly with Trump, but on the domestic stage he's fucked.

I initially reckoned he'd be gone by spring, but my lad said by Christmas- I'm increasingly thinking he's right.

Budget in November, maybe the last straw.

 

4 more years according to the Horwich HMO one 😂 

I'll show my arse on the town hall steps if that happens