Politics

[Bertie]

9 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

So another of Starmers 'stars' has had to fall on his sword for derogatory and 'sexually charged' remarks about Diane Abacus.

Then a Tory MP defects to Reform.

No wonder the lefties are all shitting bricks.

Not that I’m a leftie, but I doubt Labour are too concerned about Reform becoming the party of washed up and has been Tories.  Look what happened to them at the last election.  Granted it’s more bad news for the Conservatives though.

[DirtySanchez]

10 hours ago, Bertie said:

Not that I’m a leftie, but I doubt Labour are too concerned about Reform becoming the party of washed up and has been Tories.  Look what happened to them at the last election.  Granted it’s more bad news for the Conservatives though.

Following the defection of heavyweights Andrea Jenkyns and Nadine Dorries, this latest move must be a real hammer blow 

[bolty58]

29 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Following the defection of heavyweights Andrea Jenkyns and Nadine Dorries, this latest move must be a real hammer blow 

The trickle will likely become a deluge over the next couple of years. All but the most devout Tory will be considering this move. It is where the required experience with the levers of power will likely come from.

Meanwhile the left leaning media try to label all the marchers from the other day as 'far right'.

They must be encouraged to continue with this line of attack. These insults bear even more fruit than anything Reform or disgruntled Conservatives can achieve.

[Spider]

15 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

The trickle will likely become a deluge over the next couple of years. All but the most devout Tory will be considering this move. It is where the required experience with the levers of power will likely come from.

Meanwhile the left leaning media try to label all the marchers from the other day as 'far right'.

They must be encouraged to continue with this line of attack. These insults bear even more fruit than anything Reform or disgruntled Conservatives can achieve.

Good to see that the march is already having an effect.

No need for specifics, it JUST IS

[Sweep]

7 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

The trickle will likely become a deluge over the next couple of years. All but the most devout Tory will be considering this move. It is where the required experience with the levers of power will likely come from.

 

Interestingly they were speaking on the news today about how there could be more and more move across from Conservative to Reform, but, and it's a valid point, Farage has to be careful. He does need some experience in his ranks, but also can't be seen to just being a home for disgruntled Tory members, who, let's be honest are in the main just saving their own skin

[bolty58]

Just now, Sweep said:

Interestingly they were speaking on the news today about how there could be more and more move across from Conservative to Reform, but, and it's a valid point, Farage has to be careful. He does need some experience in his ranks, but also can't be seen to just being a home for disgruntled Tory members, who, let's be honest are in the main just saving their own skin

Abso-fucking-lutely but when you have an empty tank in the hard shoulder and anyone offers you a free refill you just take it don't you?

I expect Farage to be in complete control of the middle of the UK right well before 2029. Just keep building and recruiting.

[Casino]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

The trickle will likely become a deluge over the next couple of years. All but the most devout Tory will be considering this move. It is where the required experience with the levers of power will likely come from.

Meanwhile the left leaning media try to label all the marchers from the other day as 'far right'.

They must be encouraged to continue with this line of attack. These insults bear even more fruit than anything Reform or disgruntled Conservatives can achieve.

absolute fucking bollocks, as per

if bozo the clown hadn't ripped the heart out of the tory party, you may be correct

all the decent ones got fucked off and you're now just left with loons as even the decent ones that stuck around got booted out at the GE

[DirtySanchez]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Abso-fucking-lutely but when you have an empty tank in the hard shoulder and anyone offers you a free refill you just take it don't you?

I expect Farage to be in complete control of the middle of the UK right well before 2029. Just keep building and recruiting.

Depends if you want unleaded and you're being offered diesel 

The likes of Dorries are well documented that they couldn't give a shit about her constituents 

If she stands for a seat where locals see other issues than immigration as being important, or they see her as being part of a government that didn't address the issue of boat crossings then she might have a hard sell in an election

[Sweep]

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

absolute fucking bollocks, as per

if bozo the clown hadn't ripped the heart out of the tory party, you may be correct

all the decent ones got fucked off and you're now just left with loons

as even the decent ones that stuck around got booted out at the GE

Sadly, this is a major reason we are where we are, because of Johnson getting rid of anybody decent, because he knew they were a threat. 

Still, he had funny hair and looked a bit scruffy, what an eccentric!! (which really he wasn't, it's all an act)

[Bertie]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

The trickle will likely become a deluge over the next couple of years. All but the most devout Tory will be considering this move. It is where the required experience with the levers of power will likely come from.

Meanwhile the left leaning media try to label all the marchers from the other day as 'far right'.

They must be encouraged to continue with this line of attack. These insults bear even more fruit than anything Reform or disgruntled Conservatives can achieve.

I love these type of posts, full of populist nonsense, inaccurate views of reality and fantasy predictions of the future, but spoken as if it’s gods own truth.

I’ll have a go.  Equally valid. 

Reform (continues to) become the home for all the discredited Tory fruitcakes and not rights.  Voters finally have their eyes opened by the truthful/independent media as to Farage’s hypocrisy (incl. non-paying of taxes). Starmer/Mahmood (eventually) stop the boats. Reform disappear as soon as they came.  “5 more years for Labour” chant the crowds as they come marching down the street carrying the victorious Andy Burnham on their shoulders wrapped in the Union Jack, as the landslide winner in a secular, tolerant, compassionate, multi-cultural, inclusive, cohesive society that’s the envy of the world. MMW, YHIHF etc etc……

Edited September 16, 2025 by Bertie

[burnden]

I see Corbyn is trying to start a new party ....Your Party apparently.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Starmer won't stop the boats. 

Won't (can't) reduce spending and borrowing. 

He has surrounded himself, both in opposition and as PM with layers of protection. 

Those layers are being stripped away, like peeling an onion.

I was listening to a debate about Burnham: it was really good and they explained that his timing of his bid for leadership will have to be perfect. If he goes too soon he will inherit a mess, have a split party and maybe an election. Even before that, he will have to be selected as a candidate for a by-election, and win it.

Go too late, and the enthusiasm may have gone, resignation taken over amongst the party etc.

They explained how he would only get one opportunity to make a bid, this it had to be perfect.

He has his own skeletons too, and it won't be easy.

[frank_spencer]

2 hours ago, burnden said:

I see Corbyn is trying to start a new party ....Your Party apparently.

Started it months back with Zara Sultana, apparently they've said they'll pair up with the Green Party come elections.

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Started it months back with Zara Sultana, apparently they've said they'll pair up with the Green Party come elections.

Yeah old story, and as usual Corbyn couldn't organise a proper launch. 

Its old school local politics. He still thinks its the 70s

[BobyBrno]

The first of the ‘one out’ deportees has won a high court ruling against his deportation. Not a good start. 862 came in this week by the way. 
Some lawyers are going to become very rich, very soon. 

[Dimron]

4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Some lawyers are going to become very rich, very soon. 

Especially when one of their own is PM

[Spider]

12 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The first of the ‘one out’ deportees has won a high court ruling against his deportation. Not a good start. 862 came in this week by the way. 
Some lawyers are going to become very rich, very soon. 

Not as rich as white English landlords selling their souls to serco 🥹

[royal white]

16 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The first of the ‘one out’ deportees has won a high court ruling against his deportation. Not a good start. 862 came in this week by the way. 
Some lawyers are going to become very rich, very soon. 

How do these poor souls escaping war zones manage to afford these lawyers 👀

In all seriousness what do France get from this deal? 

[BobyBrno]

11 minutes ago, royal white said:

How do these poor souls escaping war zones manage to afford these lawyers 👀

In all seriousness what do France get from this deal? 

Well the first ‘one in’ from France in the deal is due this weekend. Don’t think he/she/they are coming by boat. 
Someone hasn’t thought this through.

[Not in Crawley]

48 minutes ago, royal white said:

How do these poor souls escaping war zones manage to afford these lawyers 👀

In all seriousness what do France get from this deal? 

Not sure RW understands how international law works.

How do they find these lawyers 😂

[jayjayoghani]

6 hours ago, Bertie said:

I love these type of posts, full of populist nonsense, inaccurate views of reality and fantasy predictions of the future, but spoken as if it’s gods own truth.

I’ll have a go.  Equally valid. 

Reform (continues to) become the home for all the discredited Tory fruitcakes and not rights.  Voters finally have their eyes opened by the truthful/independent media as to Farage’s hypocrisy (incl. non-paying of taxes). Starmer/Mahmood (eventually) stop the boats. Reform disappear as soon as they came.  “5 more years for Labour” chant the crowds as they come marching down the street carrying the victorious Andy Burnham on their shoulders wrapped in the Union Jack, as the landslide winner in a secular, tolerant, compassionate, multi-cultural, inclusive, cohesive society that’s the envy of the world. MMW, YHIHF etc etc……

One of Farage's advisors is George Cottrell, a convicted fraudster caught by an FBI sting advertising money laundering on the dark web.

We know Farage has shell companies, companies that are often used for money laundering. 

Ditto Nick Candy, Reform treasurer. Billionaire property developer

The issue with this Clacton house isn't tax avoidance. It's the probable money laundering. How did he acquire that 885k, as it's his money let's face it. 

 

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Not sure RW understands how international law works.

How do they find these lawyers 😂

“How do they find these lawyers”

Im not sure if you’re quoting someone or asking a question? 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 hours ago, Spider said:

Not as rich as white English landlords selling their souls to the government  🥹

Quite right. Twats.

Are they all English and white though, or is that just made up?

Not that it matters really, as they're all taking advantage of the situation. 

Still, the government will tax the fuck out of them all come the budget.

With the possible exception of income tax and employee NI.

Which will be quite useful for SKS once he's ousted by his own party, and has gone back to being a human rights lawyer, fighting the deportation of migrants under the system his government introduced. 

I see Deirdre has now delivered a blow, and added her muscle to throwing SKS under the bus. An electric, yellow bee bus no doubt.

[Spider]

18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Quite right. Twats.

Are they all English and white though, or is that just made up?

Not that it matters really, as they're all taking advantage of the situation. 

Still, the government will tax the fuck out of them all come the budget.

With the possible exception of income tax and employee NI.

Which will be quite useful for SKS once he's ousted by his own party, and has gone back to being a human rights lawyer, fighting the deportation of migrants under the system his government introduced. 

I see Deirdre has now delivered a blow, and added her muscle to throwing SKS under the bus. An electric, yellow bee bus no doubt.

I know of 2 white English reform voters who have done.

 

[Bertie]

11 hours ago, jayjayoghani said:

One of Farage's advisors is George Cottrell, a convicted fraudster caught by an FBI sting advertising money laundering on the dark web.

We know Farage has shell companies, companies that are often used for money laundering. 

Ditto Nick Candy, Reform treasurer. Billionaire property developer

The issue with this Clacton house isn't tax avoidance. It's the probable money laundering. How did he acquire that 885k, as it's his money let's face it. 

 

Exactly.

Reform - the party for “the man in the street”…..run by self-serving billionaires.

(see USA for what could happen next).