Politics

[Ani]

3 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

Agreed.  I cant stand his politics and the thought of the roundabout painters in power makes me queasy but Farage does at least seem to have the power of his convictions.  You can't say the same of Starmer, although like May and Cameron, you get the sense he is largely respected abroad. Truss was just an embarrassment and has led to Tories like Bad Enoch, Jenrick and Braverman all thinking they could lead the country. 20 years ago those types would have been kept hidden on the backbenches. 

Farage is funded by billionaires with vested interests in ensuring our whole financial system, in particular the markets remain unregulated. He is a fucking grifter who is million more times concerned about lining his own pockets than he is about education and the NHS. He dances to the tune of his paymasters. 

The fact he has a sniff of the top job shows how fucking shit Cameron, May, Boris, Truss, Sunak and now Starmer have been. And with the other options being Badenoch, Funny Ed and a hypnotist who think he can make women’s tits bigger shows nothing good is happening soon. 

[mickbrown]

3 hours ago, Ani said:

Farage is funded by billionaires with vested interests in ensuring our whole financial system, in particular the markets remain unregulated. He is a fucking grifter who is million more times concerned about lining his own pockets than he is about education and the NHS. He dances to the tune of his paymasters. 

The fact he has a sniff of the top job shows how fucking shit Cameron, May, Boris, Truss, Sunak and now Starmer have been. And with the other options being Badenoch, Funny Ed and a hypnotist who think he can make women’s tits bigger shows nothing good is happening soon. 

Amen brother

[Mounts Kipper]

3 hours ago, Ani said:

Farage is funded by billionaires with vested interests in ensuring our whole financial system, in particular the markets remain unregulated. He is a fucking grifter who is million more times concerned about lining his own pockets than he is about education and the NHS. He dances to the tune of his paymasters. 

The fact he has a sniff of the top job shows how fucking shit Cameron, May, Boris, Truss, Sunak and now Starmer have been. And with the other options being Badenoch, Funny Ed and a hypnotist who think he can make women’s tits bigger shows nothing good is happening soon. 

Show me a politician who’s also not a grifter? and all parties are backed by wealthy people who in turn want favours in return. The whole political system in the UK stinks and needs a complete overhaul, Proportional representation needs implementing so we get a diverse range of opinions and folk from right across the political spectrum in parliament. 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Show me a politician who’s also not a grifter? and all parties are backed by wealthy people who in turn want favours in return. The whole political system in the UK stinks and needs a complete overhaul, Proportional representation needs implementing so we get a diverse range of opinions and folk from right across the political spectrum in parliament. 

So let's stick it to them by electing the most corrupt individual that's ever ran to be PM. Great plan.

Edited December 16, 2025 by Cheese

[Ani]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Show me a politician who’s also not a grifter? and all parties are backed by wealthy people who in turn want favours in return. The whole political system in the UK stinks and needs a complete overhaul, Proportional representation needs implementing so we get a diverse range of opinions and folk from right across the political spectrum in parliament. 

Farage is the king of it . Miles ahead of all but one other MP. This is in addition to the £117m looses at GB News someone is funding and the recent £9m donation to Reform, from the crypto guy, see earlier comment on deregulating financial markets. 
 

You are right other MPs , but not all , take donations but this is another level. 

https://goodlawproject.org/top-five-mps-bag-2m-outside-parliament-since-july/

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, mickbrown said:

I might vote for them. Seems to piss people off. That’s how it works isn’t it?

Good lad Micky baby. I like it.

Certainly wouldn't piss me off.

Every vote taken away from the red shithouses is a bonus.

[bolty58]

46 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Amen brother

Beyond 'amen'. That should be posted on the Reform changing room walls before the game starts.

Best vote winner I have seen yet. Keep 'em coming.

[mickbrown]

Tick fucking tock

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, mickbrown said:

Tick fucking tock

 It's going to be such a fucking disappointment for you when he's at the lectern outside no. 10 telling the nation how he plans to stop illegal immigration, arrive at a one in/one out policy for legal immigration and set about the dole bludgers and glassbacks milking the country dry.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Show me a politician who’s also not a grifter? and all parties are backed by wealthy people who in turn want favours in return. The whole political system in the UK stinks and needs a complete overhaul, Proportional representation needs implementing so we get a diverse range of opinions and folk from right across the political spectrum in parliament. 

A fact that seems lost on so many.

The biggest con of the lot: until fairly recently, anyone that wanted to join a union was helping to fund the Labour Party. 

No choice- how truly democratic that was!

Thankfully that has changed now.

Still not convinced about PR though. 

Can see the "fairness" but it could also yield a toothless parliament struggling to get anything of note through.

[mickbrown]

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 It's going to be such a fucking disappointment for you when he's at the lectern outside no. 10 telling the nation how he plans to stop illegal immigration, arrive at a one in/one out policy for legal immigration and set about the dole bludgers and glassbacks milking the country dry.

So he’s only going to tell us how he’s going to do that once he’s in power? Aye, that’ll work😀

[Sweep]

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 It's going to be such a fucking disappointment for you when he's at the lectern outside no. 10 telling the nation how he plans to stop illegal immigration, arrive at a one in/one out policy for legal immigration and set about the dole bludgers and glassbacks milking the country dry.

Do you really think that would happen? - I know you like a wind up, but even you know that's not going to happen. 

[Sweep]

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

So he’s only going to tell us how he’s going to do that once he’s in power? Aye, that’ll work😀

I think his supporters would be happy enough to vote him in and wait for it to happen, they don't ever question anything he says, it's just taken as gospel

 

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I think his supporters would be happy enough to vote him in and wait for it to happen, they don't ever question anything he says, it's just taken as gospel

 

Tbf the Tories had ‘stop the boats’ Labour ‘smash the gangs’ and neither had or have a proper strategy to change anything. 
 

Labour had 14 years to get ready and it all has proven too much it seems. Slipping from one mistake to the next. 
 

I massively disagree with 99% of what Reform stand for but if they appeal to enough people they will get in. They just have so few people of any quality or experience to make up a Govt. 

Edited December 17, 2025 by Ani

[Sweep]

3 minutes ago, Ani said:

Tbf the Tories had ‘stop the boats’ Labour ‘smash the gangs’ and neither had or have a proper strategy to change anything. 
 

Labour had 14 years to get ready and it all has proven too much it seems. Slipping from one mistake to the next. 
 

I massively disagree with 99% of what Reform stand for but if they appeal to enough people they will get in. They just have so few people of any quality or experience to make up a Govt. 

Indeed, and both of those statements are as bad as each other, the gangs can never, ever be smashed and the boats can never, ever be stopped (if they do stop the boats, then those coming will just find another way in) unless something very dramatic, policy wise, happens - which neither of the traditional "big 2" will sign up for, and I don't even think Reform are willing to say they'll do anything more extreme than have the Navy patrol the Channel (which they've said they would, and also confirmed they wouldn't be turning anybody back, or blowing dinghies out of the water, it'd just pretty much be for show)

It's been said on here many times, we need to make coming here a much less attractive proposition. As soon as they arrive, get them in secure prison camps, that they can't leave until they've been processed (fuck knows what we do with them if their application fails though) - whilst in those camps, get them out on day release, on some sort of community service, so they're at least contributing. At no point should they be allowed to "roam the streets" or be given the chance to vanish into the underground economy

 

The second highlighted point I agree with, as we know, they're pretty much a one policy ticket. All the other parties need to do is be seen to do something about immigration, and that would wipe Reform out as a serious contender

[miamiwhite]

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/unison-general-secretary-andrea-egan-christina-mcanea

Bolton's very own Andrea Egan. This will be fun as her and Starmer have serious history

[Cheese]

21 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed, and both of those statements are as bad as each other, the gangs can never, ever be smashed and the boats can never, ever be stopped (if they do stop the boats, then those coming will just find another way in) unless something very dramatic, policy wise, happens - which neither of the traditional "big 2" will sign up for, and I don't even think Reform are willing to say they'll do anything more extreme than have the Navy patrol the Channel (which they've said they would, and also confirmed they wouldn't be turning anybody back, or blowing dinghies out of the water, it'd just pretty much be for show)

It's been said on here many times, we need to make coming here a much less attractive proposition. As soon as they arrive, get them in secure prison camps, that they can't leave until they've been processed (fuck knows what we do with them if their application fails though) - whilst in those camps, get them out on day release, on some sort of community service, so they're at least contributing. At no point should they be allowed to "roam the streets" or be given the chance to vanish into the underground economy

 

The second highlighted point I agree with, as we know, they're pretty much a one policy ticket. All the other parties need to do is be seen to do something about immigration, and that would wipe Reform out as a serious contender

We've deported 50,000 failed asylum seekers since Labour took over, halved the number of "Asylum Hotels", and dismantled 900 people smuggling gangs by working with the French. Not a bad start really, but these things can't be fixed overnight. It amazes me that this stuff doesn't get talked about more in the press. I know it doesn't suit the Right Wing narrative of our media, but the Labour Government should be doing far more to highlight their achievements.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/major-new-act-to-disrupt-smuggling-gangs

https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2025/12/12/latest-statement-in-response-to-small-boat-crossings

Edited December 17, 2025 by Cheese

[Duck Egg]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

The biggest con of the lot: until fairly recently, anyone that wanted to join a union was helping to fund the Labour Party. 

1992 is not fairly recently! 

No different to me buying something from eg M&S or Timpsons and them using their profits to donate to the Tories.

[Cheese]

Just now, Duck Egg said:

1992 is not fairly recently! 

No different to me buying something from eg M&S or Timpsons and them using their profits to donate to the Tories.

Yep. And Trade Unions are about as democratic as it gets. TMGJ only sees what he wants to see.

[royal white]

26 minutes ago, Cheese said:

We've deported 50,000 failed asylum seekers since Labour took over, halved the number of "Asylum Hotels", and dismantled 900 people smuggling gangs by working with the French. Not a bad start really, but these things can't be fixed overnight. It amazes me that this stuff doesn't get talked about more in the press. I know it doesn't suit the Right Wing narrative of our media, but the Labour Government should be doing far more to highlight their achievements.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/major-new-act-to-disrupt-smuggling-gangs

https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2025/12/12/latest-statement-in-response-to-small-boat-crossings

So whilst letting more in they’ve paid for a lot to leave whilst at the same time moving many from hotels to HMOs. Some achievement 

[Sweep]

20 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Yep. And Trade Unions are about as democratic as it gets. TMGJ only sees what he wants to see.

or what ChatGPT spews out for him 😉

[miamiwhite]

Personally, I think this is going to be a very tough one to police.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

36 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Personally, I think this is going to be a very tough one to police.

 

Aye.

Should have done it in the first place.

 

[Cheese]

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye.

Should have done it in the first place.

 

"Free Speech!.... Apart from that!"

[Sweep]

2 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

Personally, I think this is going to be a very tough one to police.

 

Balls to that, just watercannon the lot of them, and then wade in with the cattle prods, the scruffy fuckers