Members Rudy Posted December 21, 2019 Members Share Posted December 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Traf said: Piss easy, I'm told. Costs about £300 or you can just plug into your mains, but that's a slow charge. Is there a government scheme for it like solar panels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 21, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2019 Iirc, someone one here commented that the rapid charging point reduce the life of the battery, adding maintenance costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Iirc, someone one here commented that the rapid charging point reduce the life of the battery, adding maintenance costs. Not sure if it was an issue but it isn’t an issue now so wouldn’t worry about it. I work in the industry so have a reasonable grasp on all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 21, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Not sure if it was an issue but it isn’t an issue now so wouldn’t worry about it. I work in the industry so have a reasonable grasp on all this. I know- hoped you'd be along to put some facts into the thread. hopefully Boris will have a big push on it all, and we'll all be in electric vehicles within 10 years. At which point spider will explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 49 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: Is there a government scheme for it like solar panels? Yeah, it's about £800, but you get £500 from the govt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Traf said: Piss easy, I'm told. Costs about £300 or you can just plug into your mains, but that's a slow charge. A husband of a woman I used to work with bought her one of these as her Xmas present a couple of years ago. The year before he took an early upgrade on his phone and gave her his old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 minute ago, DazBob said: A husband of a woman I used to work with bought her one of these as her Xmas present a couple of years ago. The year before he took an early upgrade on his phone and gave her his old one. The old romantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Traf said: Yeah, it's about £800, but you get £500 from the govt. Mine cost £99 through an approved supplier at my old job but was heavily subsidized by work and government grant. on that note companies used to get £2500 from government per hybrid they put into the fleet but they closed this about 12 months ago thus not quite as attractive from a Company point of view especially when you take into account a huge increase in fuel consumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I know- hoped you'd be along to put some facts into the thread. hopefully Boris will have a big push on it all, and we'll all be in electric vehicles within 10 years. At which point spider will explode. batteries are fine on these things but technology is moving so fast that something deemed high tech this year will be outdone in 6 months which is why a lot of manufacturers are just dipping their toes in waiting for that real breakthrough technology then it will be full steam ahead Electric vehicles will become a big part of normal life within the next 5 years I would estimate. electric vans and trucks delivering considerable ranges are on the horizon london has a huge need for these vehicles now with all the various schemes to lower emissions in the capital and penalize anything but. I was driving a small electric goods vehicle round our test track the other day. Goes like shit off a shovel And up there with some cars. Can carry 3.5t in the back and has a range of about 80 miles to a charge which is ideal for city multi drop etc. as I’ve eluded to previously on another thread there are huges things planned re the charging infrastructure etc in the UK which we need to deliver the necessary to allow a move to more electric vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Escobarp said: as I’ve eluded to previously on another thread there are huges things planned re the charging infrastructure etc in the UK which we need to deliver the necessary to allow a move to more electric vehicles Indeed, the company I work for is doing loads of work with firms involved in the infrastructure, big things are happening. It'll be a massive part of my companies growth over the next few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 I was told that the main issue is getting enough power out of the electricity grid and to the charging points up and down the motorway network Not sure how true it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 21, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: I was told that the main issue is getting enough power out of the electricity grid and to the charging points up and down the motorway network Not sure how true it is Makes sense. Infrastructure needed is more than just the charging points. I do wonder if some of these large buildings like service stations could be covered with solar panels to help with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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birch-chorley Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 Anyone know how this salary sacrifice car works? Tesla make it sound like the cycle to work scheme, you buy a car and the money comes out of your salary before tax Apparently worthwhile for full electric cars given the tax advantages Hows it any different from a company car then? https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/salary-sacrifice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Anyone know how this salary sacrifice car works? Tesla make it sound like the cycle to work scheme, you buy a car and the money comes out of your salary before tax Apparently worthwhile for full electric cars given the tax advantages Hows it any different from a company car then? https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/salary-sacrifice Appears it’s a lease that you take out on the equipment (car). Looks like a no brainer. Not seen this before but appears to be government driven and subject to your company allowing it looks quality eh? FWIW I pay no company car tax either as my car is leased (lease Purchase) from my company (manufacturer) by me and deducted from my salary before tax and NI and then they pay me for my business useage which nets off almost. I pay about 70 a month for 70k motor. They have a closed buyback on the car and just take it back and settle the lease off everytime I swap it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 That sounds excellent, how does it work? Or when you say manufacturer, do you mean you work for a car manufacturer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: That sounds excellent, how does it work? Or when you say manufacturer, do you mean you work for a car manufacturer? Yes I work for a manufacturer. I pay nominal BIK on it. But my tax code is unaffected so miss out on the dreaded company car tax. God knows how much I would be out of pocket for otherwise. but by the sounds of it the Tesla scheme You put up sounds immense and will just need your company buy in Edited December 22, 2019 by Escobarp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Escobarp said: Yes I work for a manufacturer. I pay nominal BIK on it. But my tax code is unaffected so miss out on the dreaded company car tax. God knows how much I would be out of pocket for otherwise. but by the sounds of it the Tesla scheme You put up sounds immense and will just need your company buy in Somebody at our office asked about that scheme, or HR department came back pretty quickly with a "no" sadly We do already salary sacrifice for our pension schemes though, so fingers crossed they'll have another look at it Edited December 22, 2019 by Sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Sweep said: Somebody at our office asked about that scheme, or HR department came back pretty quickly with a "no" sadly We do already salary sacrifice for our pension schemes though, so fingers crossed they'll have another look at it What was the reason given Sweep? Keen to get my positioning right when I approach my HR in the new year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Possibly the extra administration that it would require monthly? Other than that I can’t see why as appears great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Off set somewhat if they only need to pay £0.04 per mile vs £0.15 on Diesel Save the company £1500 a year that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Off set somewhat if they only need to pay £0.04 per mile vs £0.15 on Diesel Save the company £1500 a year that I agree with you. Just trying to look for a reason why They wouldn’t go for it as nothing springs to mind. Must be something in the detail surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I agree with you. Just trying to look for a reason why They wouldn’t go for it as nothing springs to mind. Must be something in the detail surely Think your right Sure they will find some reason not to break with tradition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Think your right Sure they will find some reason not to break with tradition I wonder if they are liable for the lease and vehicle under the terms of the scheme? If you left employment then they would remain liable? Although that’s the case for all company fleets so god knows. Worth a shot to ask though if you can do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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