Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

Just now, ZicoKelly said:

@peelyfeet does riding past a football ground on your bike at 10-15mph increase  your risk of infection or spreading the virus?  been a hot topic of debate in your absence

haha - depends which stadium it is

probably by about 0.0000000000001% at ours, because there's never any fucker there. 

depends -  if you were riding right behind a load of other cyclists and they were all gobbing into the air, then maybe - or if you fell or were knocked off you bike - broken leg - hospital - covid - then yeah.

I've got a mate who does triathlons - he's stopped going out on his in case he comes off it.  But the wind is going to blow all the viral particles all over the shop so I'd bet its almost next to nothing.

 

which reminds me - another conspiracy crank reckons the virus lives in the jet stream, so even if we lockdown, it will fall out of the sky and you'll breath it in when you're out walking your dog (or cat)

   

What about standing on a step ladder outside a football ground?

5 minutes ago, DazBob said:

What about standing on a step ladder outside a football ground?

Only if the ladders got corona virus. 

1 minute ago, DazBob said:

What about standing on a step ladder outside a football ground?

hahah

Depends on what's going on around you  - the more you go to places where other people are, the higher the chance of catching it is regardless although the % increase might by miniscule its still an increase - some unlucky bastards might catch it from doing what they think is a very low risk action, someone might walk past you and sneeze into the air  - some people travelling to the football ground might crash their car, fall off the ladder, get hit on the head by a dying seagull or albatross  

52 minutes ago, Ani said:

Govt look fucking stupid if supply stops them hitting targets, unless the supply chain is disrupted by factors that are new.  

The mail reckons theres 21 million vaccines in the country

10 minutes ago, Casino said:

The mail reckons theres 21 million vaccines in the country

And just heard that we are through 3m done

Massive increase day-on-day

Id like them to tell us how many AZ are making per day

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

Id like them to tell us how many AZ are making per day

Why?

For this country or for global jabbing?

1 hour ago, peelyfeet said:

Yeah, he was simplifying a bit, it doesn't really make mutations happen any faster, it just creates a situation that allows a mutated virus to flourish faster - say the vaccine is 95% efficacious against the current strain and only 80% against a new one, the new one would take over because it becomes more prevalent.

The issue we are going to have is that realistically we need all the world to get vaccinated, if we don't the mutations are going to rumble on in poor countries, so worldwide we arent going to get rid of it for a while, Van tam thinks never, but some others think it's possible - it doesnt mutate as mucg as flu virus does, so you may only need a shot every few years if this happens, and tweaking the existig vaccine is much faster - most of the ingredients are usually exactly the same as the original so creating it, testing and getting it authorised is a lot quicker. 

Mr Grey was wondering why more explaining isnt done at the briefings- I think you've illustrated the point. Difficult to do so without potentially creating a miss understanding somewhere, that Ani showed.

Overall, as you will know, the quicker the population is vaccinated, the less time the virus has to mutate. Assuming onward transmission is also dramatically reduced.

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Why?

For this country or for global jabbing?

Ideally for here

If we are going to hit the targets and more, i dont think itll be due to Pfizer

If AZ can outstrip our demand, then imo we need to increase demand

If they cant keep up, imo, we have a problem

I’ve just got a letter to go for a flu jab, why the fuck don’t they prioritise the Covid jab? 

Edited January 14, 20215 yr by Mounts Kipper

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Ideally for here

If we are going to hit the targets and more, i dont think itll be due to Pfizer

If AZ can outstrip our demand, then imo we need to increase demand

If they cant keep up, imo, we have a problem

We’ve got 21m in the country, so that’s enough to get us through Mid-Feb

A couple of days ago Hancock told one of the select committees that there was around 20m doses available in total.

Wasn't exactly listening intently, so I'm glad the paper has confirmed it.

Within the cohorts, I would presume there is a slight bias towards areas with higher rates, though this might not be the case.

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’ve just got a letter to go for a flu jab, why the fuck don’t they prioritise the Covid jab? 

I know what you're saying about concentrating on covid, but flu is still a thing folk could do without.

You won't qualify for your covid jab yet, so just take your flu one soon as.

It may be that chemists will do the flu jabs, as not all will be used for covid. Where are you going for yours?

 

35 minutes ago, Casino said:

The mail reckons theres 21 million vaccines in the country

I saw that, and it's really good news - no excuse now for not hitting the 13M they said they would by 15th February

3 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

We’ve got 21m in the country, so that’s enough to get us through Mid-Feb

Then what?

Hence my interest in supply beyond there

The here and now, we are going well, but I would like to know we aren't going to fall off a cliff

 

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’ve just got a letter to go for a flu jab, why the fuck don’t they prioritise the Covid jab? 

This should be fun

Why do you think you've been offered flu not covid

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Then what?

Hence my interest in supply beyond there

The here and now, we are going well, but I would like to know we aren't going to fall off a cliff

 

Fair point.

I'm sure someone is planning for beyond Mid-Feb, but let's get there, with a view on transmitaility and other science stuff and then take a fresh guard.

 

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

Then what?

Hence my interest in supply beyond there

The here and now, we are going well, but I would like to know we aren't going to fall off a cliff

 

Don't they now have to be batch tested or something now? - My understanding, which is obviously very limited, is that even though they're in the country, they aren't ready to be stuck into people yet

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Mr Grey was wondering why more explaining isnt done at the briefings- I think you've illustrated the point. Difficult to do so without potentially creating a miss understanding somewhere, that Ani showed.

Overall, as you will know, the quicker the population is vaccinated, the less time the virus has to mutate. Assuming onward transmission is also dramatically reduced.

Yeah - the data coming out from Israel looks like the pfizer one is definately reducing onward transmision - and reading between the lines, I think all the vaccine producing companies are almost certain that all he vaccines will prevent onward transmission to a large extent, they just dont have the data to prove it because it's nigh on impossible to prove conclusively, and so they won't publish it

 

The fact is,  if the virus stops someone "developing" covid, they aren't going to be expelling anywhere near the amount of viral particles (if any at all) into the air as someone with full blown covid, but they are more likely to be out and about, and measuring the amount of viral particles someone expells is difficult to say the least, but I'm 99% sure we will see correlation of the spread decreasing, especially in the older populations, very soon, everywhere that the vaccine is being rolled out extensively.

Well, Mounts certainly doesn't need a Common Sense jab

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

This should be fun

Why do you think you've been offered flu not covid

He knows the answer, he's just being a little tinker I think

1 minute ago, Casino said:

This should be fun

Why do you think you've been offered flu not covid

Because it’s not my age groups turn to being vaccinated for Covid, you’ve missed my point though, I’ll sack off my flu jab if someone older can have the Covid jab instead of me having a flu jab. 

Just now, Sweep said:

He knows the answer, he's just being a little tinker I think

I was offered a flu jab. Not bothering. I doubt there's little flu around and I'm not seeing anyone. Pointless in my view.

Just now, boltondiver said:

I was offered a flu jab. Not bothering. I doubt there's little flu around and I'm not seeing anyone. Pointless in my view.

Precisely just get the Covid jab into the older folk.