ErnestTurnip Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Just so we're all singing from the same hymn sheet is the plan to : - get the kids back to school and leave loads of adults sat at home doing fuck all on 80% or - get the kids back to school and anyone whose kids are back in school get unfurloughed and back to work or - get the kids back to school and stop the furlough on the same day or ...? Edited May 17, 2020 by ErnestTurnip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Surely as a teacher you’re aware how difficult a task it is? And that’s with parents who want them to engage. There’s parents out there that won’t have bothered at all. It will never be safe for everyone. Leaving it till September is just kicking the can down the road. If the R rate is lower in the community when the kids go back, it's safer for a longer period of time. Some people, the BMA included arent confident enough with the stats, and the governments recent performance to agree that it's safe enough now. They might be being over cautious. If you were being cautious, you'd wait a few weeks and make the summer holidays shorter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 We’ve flattened the curve That was the objective. Now we have to get back to as normal as possible, and that’s work & school. This has always been about the NHS coping. It has and it will. The nuances of age groups and areas can be dealt with. This whole thing has been a day by day approach anyway so we’re all used to it now. Its fairly clear that the distancing works. Keep that in mind for everyday life and the spikes will still happen but be manageable. Folk are going to catch it, it’s not going away unless we all start injecting Dettol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 17, 2020 Summer schools on the agenda....oof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: If the R rate is lower in the community when the kids go back, it's safer for a longer period of time. Some people, the BMA included arent confident enough with the stats, and the governments recent performance to agree that it's safe enough now. They might be being over cautious. If you were being cautious, you'd wait a few weeks and make the summer holidays shorter I'd go for that, Extra weeks on overtime over summer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Casino said: Summer schools on the agenda....oof Dead right. 2020 is not a normal year. Lets get the kids up to speed, get our economy moving whilst not licking each other’s faces. Instead of being soft cunts, suck it up. Things have changed. We’ve not cunted our way to the top of the evolutionary ladder by complaining about change. We’ve got there because we’re the best at changing. #Darwin Edited May 17, 2020 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: Don’t then 😁 Don't worry pal, I won't. I'm contented in my snowflake bubble assuming it's more of a joke than something people actually believe 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: For who? The FA? Yes my lads playing in east Manchester league next season so hopefully get some announcement and get them back training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Spider said: We’ve flattened the curve That was the objective. Now we have to get back to as normal as possible, and that’s work & school. This has always been about the NHS coping. It has and it will. The nuances of age groups and areas can be dealt with. This whole thing has been a day by day approach anyway so we’re all used to it now. Its fairly clear that the distancing works. Keep that in mind for everyday life and the spikes will still happen but be manageable. Folk are going to catch it, it’s not going away unless we all start injecting Dettol. They told us yesterday that we're still at level 4 on the covid alert system. Epidemic in general circulation, transmission high with social distancing measures and restrictions in place. Still need to be vigilant etc, etc. Seems too early for schools, based on this message, think that's one of the issues. Realistically they should say they think we will be down to level 3 or 2 by the time they want schools to start opening, based on current trends, and so they need to plan for that now. Might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, radcliffewhite1 said: Yes my lads playing in east Manchester league next season so hopefully get some announcement and get them back training When's tbe meeting? All I've seen is this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: When's tbe meeting? All I've seen is this Came from one of the coaches back end of the week apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Won't happen, Teachers are under contract. They may employ people to run schools from old memorial halls etc, but i can't see them using exsisting school premises. It just wont happen. Teachers work all summer anyway, preparing lessons, supporting vulnerable pupils Wheres the issue... Seriously, what do those contracts say Does it really say they fet 6 weeks off in the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: They told us yesterday that we're still at level 4 on the covid alert system. Epidemic in general circulation, transmission high with social distancing measures and restrictions in place. Still need to be vigilant etc, etc. Seems too early for schools, based on this message, think that's one of the issues. Realistically they should say they think we will be down to level 3 or 2 by the time they want schools to start opening, based on current trends, and so they need to plan for that now. Might help. I’m thinking that if you’re vigilant, you won’t catch it. Im also thinking that if you act the cunt, you probably will. I’m at the natural selection stage. I want a holiday and to get some work done now. I just think we can adapt and be vigilant all at once. It’s not hard. You don’t need a PhD to wear a mask, keep 2m from someone etc.. Its time to test ourselves, and get some work done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 17, 2020 And while i think schools should go back, kids football, nah Unnecessary risk Like that teaining session at eagley Im sure some of the more vocal complainers had no thought for kids, it was about gaining an advantage by training Jesus, its kids football, ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Came from one of the coaches back end of the week apparently Ahh right, hope so mate. Cant see it happening very soon myself, for the younger ones. Maybe one on one with a parent watching, all distancing. Who knows, wonder what they're doing in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Casino said: And while i think schools should go back, kids football, nah Unnecessary risk Like that teaining session at eagley Im sure some of the more vocal complainers had no thought for kids, it was about gaining an advantage by training Jesus, its kids football, ffs It’s talk of training totally different to playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 17, 2020 Fair enough, but either way, no need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) I'm happy to get back into school come June, but I'm no scientist. Done a few shifts in the hub schools and really feel for the kids in there. They have two different teachers each day and if they're not with a sibling have to stay within their own 2 metre bubble. Be better to get them back in their own school with a consistent teacher. The reality is the young ones just don't get the the 2 metre thing and it will be virtually impossible to keep them apart. We know that whilst they are not much of a risk to themselves that they can still spread it to others. It's always going to be a balancing act. I do worry about the long term consequences for some of the young ones living in a tower block for months of end with no proper socialisation. Nobody ever suggested that all the kids are going to return though- the idea is it would be a staggered approach. It's just a shame the debate is about whether we do it or not rather than who should we prioritise. They won't be coming back up here in Scotland until August though as term finishes mid June. As for opening summer holidays- I'm happy to work half of it but fuck I'll still need a break at some point. This terms been fucking mad and my workload has been higher than usual doing all this hometeaching malarchy. Feel like I've had 30 sets of parents to look after on top of the 30 kids. Not use to sitting on a screen all day either. Sure there's plenty of folk who work summer camps and other childcare schemes who can help in schools over the summer. Much safer for them to be outisde and easier to keep distance. Edited May 17, 2020 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: Fair enough, but either way, no need It’s mental stimulation and fitness don’t see the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 17, 2020 Author Members Share Posted May 17, 2020 Been and had my corona test ready for work tomorrow. Not nice not nice at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: They work 195 days a year, includes a from and end date, and them dates are decided at least a year in advance. So in effect yes, they get 5 weeks off, they are generally back in for inset days and enrolment days. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, Spider said: We’ve flattened the curve That was the objective. Now we have to get back to as normal as possible, and that’s work & school. This has always been about the NHS coping. It has and it will. The nuances of age groups and areas can be dealt with. This whole thing has been a day by day approach anyway so we’re all used to it now. Its fairly clear that the distancing works. Keep that in mind for everyday life and the spikes will still happen but be manageable. Folk are going to catch it, it’s not going away unless we all start injecting Dettol. The objective is to save lives. It's of no comfort to the 50,000 people who've died (let alone the 100s of health workers) that the NHS 'coped'. Now you can't save everyone, but you can certainly make a better effort of it than we've managed up to this point. A bit of caution wouldn't go amiss. When it comes to schools, the Chief Scientist for the WHO on Marr this morning seemed to think what was being suggested was fairly low risk. And Jenny Harries has been making the point quite well that another couple of weeks at the rate we're going will actually make a lot of difference. In which case, fine by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: The objective is to save lives. It's of no comfort to the 50,000 people who've died (let alone the 100s of health workers) that the NHS 'coped'. Now you can't save everyone, but you can certainly make a better effort of it than we've managed up to this point. A bit of caution wouldn't go amiss. When it comes to schools, the Chief Scientist for the WHO on Marr this morning seemed to think what was being suggested was fairly low risk. And Jenny Harries has been making the point quite well that another couple of weeks at the rate we're going will actually make a lot of difference. In which case, fine by me. The loss of life is tragic, and the inquest further down the line will decide how well we’ve done. But like any “war”, you know there’ll be casualties. That does not lessen the human tragedy and I am not glossing over it. If the next spike is severe - and there will be one in some shape or other - then we may have to close things properly, but we are prepared now. We are cautious in the main, so on balance I think the risk has to be taken. Get properly cracking by June 1st and we may get to the end of the year looking on this as the best damage limitation job we could manage. I’d say success, but 40,000 dead Brits isn’t that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Spider said: Apparently the hospitals are able to cope with a steady amount of cv patients now. That was all we could achieve without a vaccine. Its been achieved. Get the kids back ASAP I think. They break for summer soon anyway so the impact would be within the abilities of the NHS to cope. No one is clamouring for pubs and hospitality to open, just schools. We have to find a way to do it and manage accordingly. My kids are well adjusted and have been brought up well enough (I think), and they are starting to creak mentally now. That can’t happen. Imagine if the nurses had said that they couldn’t work at the hospitals as it wasn’t safe. the unions are playing politics with your kids; pure and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Noticed that Corbyn’s brother was arrested yesterday, as one of the protesters to end the lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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