gonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: When the MPs reckon its safe to send their kids back to Eton, by all means send em back to Withins I couldn’t give a fuck about Eton. Keeping children off school any longer will detriment their health and future more than this virus ever will. Take em to school, pick them up. No clubs, no play centres, no grandparents after school. Maybe even limit play times to wet play style and keep em in doors doing PE stuff. We need to get the wheels turning. Quote
only1swanny Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, gonzo said: some questions asked about sending kids back. Get em back for crying out loud. A conservative MP reeling out the party line, who would have thunk it.. Lots of contradictions in there. the Main one being stopping cross household contamination and then sending kids into schools and admitting that social distancing wasn't possible hence the creation of a school bubble.. She's pretty much accepted that the schools were a major factor in the peak, hence why they were closed, as if they are towing the line of "it's safe to reopen with little risks to kids (i'll come back to that), then why close them in the first place. She answers that by saying the spread was too quick, so implying that kids do spread it..She then tried to fobb it off by using statistics without even having statistics to hand.. apparently 0.27% of the population have it... which is a good stat considering a large potion do not show any symptoms,. The risk to kids is low, no mention of the risks to other people in the schools, or people at home should kids take it home..It doesn't matter if kids are in a bubble, they are still mixing. All in all not bad for someone who's second job is making money out of foodbanks.. Quote
gonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 The idea of lockdown was to stop the NHS being overloaded and control the virus, not lockdown till the thing vanished completely. sooner people get their heads around this thing is here to stay and nobody will ever be 100% safe from it the better. The schools will reopen, there will be another spike. The sooner we get on with it the better. Quote
London Wanderer Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: 💣 Probably the most naive social media poster I've seen in a while🙈 Wouldn't know where to begin with that one. Edited May 17, 2020 by London Wanderer Quote
Escobarp Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Probably the most naive social media poster I've seen in a while🙈 Wouldn't know where to begin with that one. Don’t then 😁 Quote
radcliffe white Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, gonzo said: The idea of lockdown was to stop the NHS being overloaded and control the virus, not lockdown till the thing vanished completely. sooner people get their heads around this thing is here to stay and nobody will ever be 100% safe from it the better. The schools will reopen, there will be another spike. The sooner we get on with it the better. Correct its how we adapt to live with it the show must go on Quote
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, boltondiver said: There is a big difference, though. Public Schools have had a full online teaching programme, which many state-schooled children haven't We are back into politics of envy here, based on incorrect information. As per. It's either safe or it's not. Quote
only1swanny Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Casino said: Define safe where a knock-on effect isn't people dying.. Quote
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Casino said: Define safe Whatever the public school's definition of safe is. Why do the schools where cabinet members send their kids feel it's not safe to open? Edited May 17, 2020 by mickbrown Quote
Spider Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Apparently the hospitals are able to cope with a steady amount of cv patients now. That was all we could achieve without a vaccine. Its been achieved. Get the kids back ASAP I think. They break for summer soon anyway so the impact would be within the abilities of the NHS to cope. No one is clamouring for pubs and hospitality to open, just schools. We have to find a way to do it and manage accordingly. My kids are well adjusted and have been brought up well enough (I think), and they are starting to creak mentally now. That can’t happen. Quote
gonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, only1swanny said: where a knock-on effect isn't people dying.. There’s a knock of effect of people dying with every other virus on the planet. There’s a knock on effect of people dying with hordes of shoppers currently queuing outside ever supermarket in Great Britain as I type right now. Blackpool prom is mobbed, as are the lakesides and parks across the land. People are moving. People can adapt. Quote
Escobarp Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Whatever the public school's definition of safe is. Why do the schools where cabinet members send their kids feel it's not safe to open? Because they don’t have to as they have a fully taught curriculum being taught online. Simple as that really. but please carry on trying to make it into something it’s not. Good luck in your mission. Quote
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Because they don’t have to as they have a fully taught curriculum being taught online. Simple as that really. but please carry on trying to make it into something it’s not. Good luck in your mission. Not really. Education is best served in a classroom. I think we can all agree on that? The reason they aren't opening has fuck all to do with the fact they think they can do just as good a job from home. It's because they deem it too risky to reopen. Classic do as I say not do as I do. Quote
Escobarp Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Not really. Education is best served in a classroom. I think we can all agree on that? The reason they aren't opening has fuck all to do with the fact they think they can do just as good a job from home. It's because they deem it too risky to reopen. Classic do as I say not do as I do. Education is best served in a classroom. But currently the vast proportion of children, being those not in private education, are not getting a proper education. Those in private education are. That’s a fact. so using the same logic we should make everyone go back to work irrespective of their ability to conduct their jobs at home? What’s good for one is good for everyone correct? Everyone back tomorrow? Agreed? Quote
radcliffe white Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Meeting next week regarding junior football getting back up (training anyway) Quote
peelyfeet Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, radcliffewhite1 said: Meeting next week regarding junior football getting back up (training anyway) For who? The FA? Quote
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Escobarp said: Education is best served in a classroom. But currently the vast proportion of children, being those not in private education, are not getting a proper education. Those in private education are. That’s a fact. so using the same logic we should make everyone go back to work irrespective of their ability to conduct their jobs at home? What’s good for one is good for everyone correct? Everyone back tomorrow? Agreed? I know. And not all those in independent schools are either. Neighbour teaches in one and they aren't running a full curriculum either. No. Completely different scenario, the logic doesn't stand. Out of interest, you got kids? Quote
little whitt Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, gonzo said: There’s a knock of effect of people dying with every other virus on the planet. There’s a knock on effect of people dying with hordes of shoppers currently queuing outside ever supermarket in Great Britain as I type right now. Blackpool prom is mobbed, as are the lakesides and parks across the land. People are moving. People can adapt. I nipped to blackpool thur afternoon loads of people Qing for ice cream bugers and stuff the KFC as you come in was quite the other I passed was Rammed Quote
peelyfeet Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Education is best served in a classroom. But currently the vast proportion of children, being those not in private education, are not getting a proper education. Those in private education are. That’s a fact. so using the same logic we should make everyone go back to work irrespective of their ability to conduct their jobs at home? What’s good for one is good for everyone correct? Everyone back tomorrow? Agreed? It's based on risk. They want the young school kids to go back to school because they think it's one of the least risky restrictions to lift and one which releases workers to boost the economy. I dont think they're arsed as much about the education standards, at the moment. Can understand teachers point of view though. They want it to be a safe as possible. I wouldn't like being a primary school teacher in Byker, being made to mix with a load of snotty geordie sprogs Edited May 17, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote
only1swanny Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I know. And not all those in independent schools are either. Neighbour teaches in one and they aren't running a full curriculum either. No. Completely different scenario, the logic doesn't stand. Out of interest, you got kids? I can only speak from experience.. But i'm delivering a full curriculum for my subject inline with the national curriculum and using the same resources albeit in a different way, than I normally would. The problem is kids not engaging, However the Government fails to remind people that a lot of children from social deprived backgrounds have already been invited into schools and have parents have declined.. The same parents will decline to send their kids back in.. I'd prefer to be in work everyday and work remotely from there if needs must, but the rules won't allow it. Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) THE BEST MAYOR LONDON WILL EVER HAVE. THE LOVELY MAN THAT IS SADIQ 'KING' KHAN. PLEASE RETWEET THIS. Edited May 17, 2020 by Youri McAnespie Quote
little whitt Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Watching Burnham on Sky now. What a dick I think the same still bitter about the Labour leader he missed out on Quote
gonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, only1swanny said: The problem is kids not engaging, Surely as a teacher you’re aware how difficult a task it is? And that’s with parents who want them to engage. There’s parents out there that won’t have bothered at all. It will never be safe for everyone. Leaving it till September is just kicking the can down the road. Quote
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