radcliffe white Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: Noticed that Corbyn’s brother was arrested yesterday, as one of the protesters to end the lockdown. scruff https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-arrests-in-hyde-park-as-lockdown-protesters-denounce-fake-virus-11989409 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Noticed that Corbyn’s brother was arrested yesterday, as one of the protesters to end the lockdown. And? My brother got arrested for affray once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Imagine if the nurses had said that they couldn’t work at the hospitals as it wasn’t safe. the unions are playing politics with your kids; pure and simple. Bollocks. If the schools are open and I don’t deem the risk worth taking, my nipper stays at home. That has cock all to do with politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Bollocks. If the schools are open and I don’t deem the risk worth taking, my nipper stays at home. That has cock all to do with politics. I said the unions are playing politics, Mick, not you. I'm sure you'll make your decision based on how you see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 17, 2020 Author Members Share Posted May 17, 2020 Why go to the effort of getting all your family to wear masks only to take you and your ugly wife and 3 fuckin kids to Asda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I said the unions are playing politics, Mick, not you. I'm sure you'll make your decision based on how you see it. I know what you said. You’re still talking bollocks. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 11/05/2020 at 15:52, Marc505 said: That was prime cross examination from Starmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: Why go to the effort of getting all your family to wear masks only to take you and your ugly wife and 3 fuckin kids to Asda Third kid wasn’t mine. It was a mate of my daughters. Fancied a trip out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: That is the problem: Some staff in Schools and Colleges will go back to work, some won't. Some parents will send their kids back to school, some won't. College teaching finishes first week of July, secondary school years 7, 8, 9 & 10 3rd week in July (year 11 already gone, exams complete). Primary schools 3rd week in July. If kids went back on the 2nd June, secondary and primary have around 6 weeks of school left, so the questions that need asking are? 1: Is it worth it, could it produce an unnecessary spike in Covid-19 ? 2: All back in September, that's another 2 months to get the so-called 'R' down. 3: Make it law, all education back on from the 2nd June, this helps all the other work sectors and we get back to some normality, there isn't a vaccine, it isn't going away, we are just going to have to stay alert, keep social distancing in place and use some common sense. Although in a classroom environment its probably not that easy. Now im all for 2, because i work in a College and i want to extend my summer 🌞, but seriously, i think we have more chance of getting all the teachers and staff back in the Schools and Colleges and we should also be in a position where parents are comfortable to send their kids back to school. 2 for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 wonder how hesitant folk would be if they opened pubs tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorWoland Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, only1swanny said: A conservative MP reeling out the party line, who would have thunk it.. Lots of contradictions in there. the Main one being stopping cross household contamination and then sending kids into schools and admitting that social distancing wasn't possible hence the creation of a school bubble.. She's pretty much accepted that the schools were a major factor in the peak, hence why they were closed, as if they are towing the line of "it's safe to reopen with little risks to kids (i'll come back to that), then why close them in the first place. She answers that by saying the spread was too quick, so implying that kids do spread it..She then tried to fobb it off by using statistics without even having statistics to hand.. apparently 0.27% of the population have it... which is a good stat considering a large potion do not show any symptoms,. The risk to kids is low, no mention of the risks to other people in the schools, or people at home should kids take it home..It doesn't matter if kids are in a bubble, they are still mixing. All in all not bad for someone who's second job is making money out of foodbanks.. I thought she spoke well. The key point is that there's also risk in not re-opening. At some point there would be more damage done to more lives by not reopening. We can argue as to where that point lies, but her logic is sound. I think there's one other factor which may or may no be in their thinking. If there's a second peak in winter coinciding with flu season then I think there's a chance we'll be in another lockdown maybe even a more severe one. So getting kids out and socialised now and for some of the autumn may be crucial in minimising the long term damage. Edited May 17, 2020 by ProfessorWoland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: wonder how hesitant folk would be if they opened pubs tomorrow? I wouldn’t be in one. I think they’d be busy enough though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I know what you said. You’re still talking bollocks. 😀 The NAHT has told members to ignore plans to open for all primary school pupils by the end of June The NEU has told members not to engage with plans to reopen on 1 June The NASUWT has threatened councils with legal action if teachers who refuse to work are penalised. Edited May 17, 2020 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 This track and trace Does anyone think it will work in the UK? Bear in mind that the supermarkets etc are a complete free for ok now and there’s no way of saying whose vapours you’ve walked through on the drinks aisle? Can’t see it meself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Not very, i would be in like a shot, best gear on and pissed after 4 pints 🤨 I’d be on the best gear and several pints deep as well. Scowling at everyone who came near my two metre exclusion zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Spider said: This track and trace Does anyone think it will work in the UK? Bear in mind that the supermarkets etc are a complete free for ok now and there’s no way of saying whose vapours you’ve walked through on the drinks aisle? Can’t see it meself Yep, wont work as well as in South Korea unless we do it to their extent. Seems like there's some in UK that are against it because they think it's an abuse of their human rights. I couldn't give a shit if I'm getting tracked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Spider said: This track and trace Does anyone think it will work in the UK? Bear in mind that the supermarkets etc are a complete free for ok now and there’s no way of saying whose vapours you’ve walked through on the drinks aisle? Can’t see it meself I guess so, as we are throwing a lot of people resource at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, boltondiver said: The NAHT has told members to ignore plans to open for all primary school pupils by the end of June The NEU has told members not to engage with plans to reopen on 1 June The NASUWT has threatened councils with legal action if teachers who refuse to work are penalised. you are spot on BD. Sister who works in Primary school has had same letter, basically saying do not co-operate with management or help to find a solution to current crisis so schools can start again in June. The more the likes of Militant Mick say its not about politics the more obvious it becomes its all about that for the unions. Hes the one talking bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, boltondiver said: The NAHT has told members to ignore plans to open for all primary school pupils by the end of June The NEU has told members not to engage with plans to reopen on 1 June The NASUWT has threatened councils with legal action if teachers who refuse to work are penalised. Doesn’t make it political Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Rudy’s Message said: Been and had my corona test ready for work tomorrow. Not nice not nice at all When do you get the results? Within 24 hours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 17, 2020 Not everybody can work from home on full pay Those that can't have to be a little more pragmatic than those that can If there's a 0.1% chance a kids getting it, its a chance that those seeing debts build up might have to take Then there's others who can just sit tight If the vaccine is 12 months off, a fair few saying no now, will be changing their opinion Absolutely convinced of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steejay said: When do you get the results? Within 24 hours? Seems a bit numb to have a test then return before you know the result, doesn't it Though, if he hasn't got symptoms, I'm presuming it's not an NHS one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Was getting wound up about everything before so went for some stress relieving fresh air. Moss Bank Park, front car park full, place wasn't full, people on the grass, people on the paths, people on the swings, ice cream van on site. Then if you looked closely it honestly looked like people were social distancing. And I did look closely because it was through a Hensoldt 10x scope on a Steyr SSG 69 sniper rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, snowball said: you are spot on BD. Sister who works in Primary school has had same letter, basically saying do not co-operate with management or help to find a solution to current crisis so schools can start again in June. The more the likes of Militant Mick say its not about politics the more obvious it becomes its all about that for the unions. Hes the one talking bollocks. Whilst sitting at home, enjoying his 'holiday'! I heard a head chap the other day- covering a few schools iirc. He was adopting a more pragmatic approach; looking at the government recommendations and seeing what they could do to make sure they were in line with the guidelines. Seems sensible, but at the same time, if a school doesn't have the infrastructure to safely take the kids back, then it seems perfectly reasonable for them to wait. I also don't see a problem with teachers wearing masks or suitable coverings- it might make more feel confident. A middle ground here surely- rather than the unions adopt an antagonistic approach, why not agree a sensible, cautious approach which enables schools to look at their specific situation and act accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted May 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Casino said: Seems a bit numb to have a test then return before you know the result, doesn't it Though, if he hasn't got symptoms, I'm presuming it's not an NHS one That’s my point. What if it comes back positive after 3 days working? 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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