Coronavirus

[Guest]

Folks playing tennis;

 

hope they are playing with their own balls

[mickbrown]

7 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I see people out stacking shelves every single time I’m in the supermarket. People handing out trolleys baskets hand sanitizer too. 
 

and she made money out of an app. What is the world coming to when people develo apps and make money from them. Who fucking knew. 
 

and there we are. It’s because she’s a nasty tory 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

Speaks volumes👍

[peelyfeet]

21 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Bet these teachers that are reluctant to go back don’t give two fucks about the staff when they’re buying their bottles of wine in Asda this evening. 

Did you get bummed by a teacher or something?

[gonzo]

9 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Did you get bummed by a teacher or something?

Can bum someone that isn’t there

[ErnestTurnip]

In all seriousness, are we still thinking that getting some percentage of reception, year 1 and year 6, year 10, year 12 back into schools is going to release a brake on the economy that will start everything moving ?

If we are, as soon as we release that brake what's the next step?

Fuck all until furlough runs out and/or we see how it goes with the kids ?

Or do we just want them back as a symbol that we are taking charge of the situation and getting back to normal?

I've lost track of where we are at.

[gonzo]

There’s no way large proportions of people can go back to work until the schools are open. 

Also children are at the lowest risk so it makes sense to ease schools in first. 

[Alf Hartigan]

34 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Folks playing tennis;

 

hope they are playing with their own balls

Only one player allowed to touch the balls, that player being the one bringing the balls.

Only that player allowed to serve.

[jeep]

1 minute ago, Alf Hartigan said:

Only one player allowed to touch the balls, that player being the one bringing the balls.

Only that player allowed to serve.

2 sets of balls would work?

[ErnestTurnip]

What percentage of the UK economy is dependent on a certain percentage of reception, yr 1, yr 6, yr 10, yr 12 pupils being in school ?

That's Yr 2, Yr 3, Yr 4, Yr 5, yr 7 , yr 8, yr 9, yr 11, yr 13 not going back in but the entire economy depends on the others to be in school.

It's a load of bollocks.

[gonzo]

5 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

What percentage of the UK economy is dependent on a certain percentage of reception, yr 1, yr 6, yr 10, yr 12 pupils being in school ?

That's Yr 2, Yr 3, Yr 4, Yr 5, yr 7 , yr 8, yr 9, yr 11, yr 13 not going back in but the entire economy depends on the others to be in school.

It's a load of bollocks.

Nobodies saying the entire economy. We have to start somewhere. 

What’s your alternative? 

We all just steam back at the same time in 2 months?

[Alf Hartigan]

7 minutes ago, jeep said:

2 sets of balls would work?

aye, just summert I saw on the news when they were interviewing Sebastian and Jeremy at their lawn tennis club

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

What percentage of the UK economy is dependent on a certain percentage of reception, yr 1, yr 6, yr 10, yr 12 pupils being in school ?

That's Yr 2, Yr 3, Yr 4, Yr 5, yr 7 , yr 8, yr 9, yr 11, yr 13 not going back in but the entire economy depends on the others to be in school.

It's a load of bollocks.

Think you’ve missed the point, our Ern

Edited May 17, 2020 by boltondiver

[Spider]

Both my kids can’t go back in June as they are yr 2&8

i can work from home but not forever. I need to be getting out and about at some point.

I really don’t want to drag teachers into this debate but I feel they are hiding behind the unions because - let’s be honest - they are on FULL PAY not to go to school. We’re all human, let’s not pretend that squeezing a few extra weeks out of this is unappealing. They won’t object.

But this reluctance to go to work will cripple us. As Gonzo says, those teachers will still be amongst those of us hoping to get a holiday this summer.

It can be made fairly safe. We all have to accept a degree of risk, but it’s not beyond us to figure that out.

Furlough is great, but needs to end.

Edited May 17, 2020 by Spider

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

Pretty sure most of the stacking goes on when shops are shut.
 

Making money from selling food? Why would I object to that? Don’t be silly

Making money from food banks whilst an MP for a party who’s policies caused an explosion in food banks? Too fucking right I object. 

Unreal.

 

 

 

 

 

It is whose not who's 😉😊

[only1swanny]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

I really don’t want to drag teachers into this debate but I feel they are hiding behind the unions because - let’s be honest - they are on FULL PAY not to go to school. We’re all human, let’s not pretend that squeezing a few extra weeks out of this is unappealing. They won’t object.

Most I know really want to get back to work, but safely. 

I've offered to work more as I'm 99.9% certain I've had it, but the schools rules deem otherwise. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

Pretty sure most of the stacking goes on when shops are shut.
 

Making money from selling food? Why would I object to that? Don’t be silly

Making money from food banks whilst an MP for a party who’s policies caused an explosion in food banks? Too fucking right I object. 

Mick

you are factually wrong about food banks.

[ErnestTurnip]

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

What’s your alternative? 

We all just steam back at the same time in 2 months?

I reckon if you unfurloughed half the workers at every company who has workers furloughed, making the employers sort out social distancing and PPE then it would have far more of an impact then putting __% of a third of kids back in school.

I know it's not normal on WW but in the spirit of honesty I have to say that I have absolutely zero links or figures or studies to back that up though, it was just the first thing that came into my pissheadery mind.

[Roger_Dubuis]

25 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

What percentage of the UK economy is dependent on a certain percentage of reception, yr 1, yr 6, yr 10, yr 12 pupils being in school ?

That's Yr 2, Yr 3, Yr 4, Yr 5, yr 7 , yr 8, yr 9, yr 11, yr 13 not going back in but the entire economy depends on the others to be in school.

It's a load of bollocks.

Correct. The government has chosen to close down some of the economy until July anyway (hotels, pubs, barbers etc) so parents working in those sectors wouldn't be going back in June

[Mounts Kipper]

2 hours ago, only1swanny said:

The Government want the disease spreading, now that they can handle it.. It's unfair to try and shy away from that in any other guise, and awful to tell teachers they should not be wearing PPE.. 

 

It’s a scandal, it’s because they can’t fulfil the numbers of ppe required for schools. 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Tombwfc]

4 hours ago, Spider said:

The loss of life is tragic, and the inquest further down the line will decide how well we’ve done.

But like any “war”, you know there’ll be casualties. That does not lessen the human tragedy and I am not glossing over it.

If the next spike is severe - and there will be one in some shape or other - then we may have to close things properly, but we are prepared now. We are cautious in the main, so on balance I think the risk has to be taken.

Get properly cracking by June 1st and we may get to the end of the year looking on this as the best damage limitation job we could manage.

I’d say success, but 40,000 dead Brits isn’t that.

 

That sounds like getting flattened by 1989 Mike Tyson, then jumping up and piling in for another go. The virus will happily keep putting us on our arse forever if we don't take the softly, softly approach.

We've racked up 50k deaths without ever using more than 60% of critical care beds. And that's without the various Nightingales. By that measure, we could've done 80k and still been under capacity. But coping, in that sense, isn't coping at all when other countries have a fraction of that.

As long as keeping the virus under control is the main priority, I agree we should be looking to open up. And everyone should keep an open mind. I wasn't convinced about re-opening schools when the number of cases is still high (compared to Italy & Germany), but the science behind it seems fairly strong. So lets give that a go, give it a couple of weeks and then hopefully move on with the next bit.

[ErnestTurnip]

4 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

I wasn't convinced about re-opening schools when the number of cases is still high (compared to Italy & Germany), but the science behind it seems fairly strong. So lets give that a go, give it a couple of weeks and then hopefully move on with the next bit.

The number of cases here compared to Germany is high yet they are still not prepared to open schools but you want to give it a go. 

So you're worried about us using science badly and being behind them but then choose your particular science results to ignore them and "give it a go" ?

 

[only1swanny]

2 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

The number of cases here compared to Germany is high yet they are still not prepared to open schools but you want to give it a go. 

So you're worried about us using science badly and being behind them but then choose your particular science results to ignore them and "give it a go" ?

 

The unions asked to see the science,  the government refused.. 

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

The number of cases here compared to Germany is high yet they are still not prepared to open schools but you want to give it a go. 

So you're worried about us using science badly and being behind them but then choose your particular science results to ignore them and "give it a go" ?

 

What should We do then?

[ErnestTurnip]

Stop pretending that getting a certain % of a certain % of school kids back into school matters at all.

Start focusing on getting folk back into work.

Whether that's a % in every workplace, whether that's some industries and not others, just look at that.

Don't try to distract folk with something that isn't actually having as big an impact as is being said, spend money on getting work places ready for social distancing and providing PPE.

I'm a nobber on a football forum but surely the cunts who are paid to run the show should be hitting something other than getting 5 yr old kids back in doing phonics.

 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Stop pretending that getting a certain % of a certain % of school kids back into school matters at all.

Start focusing on getting folk back into work.

Whether that's a % in every workplace, whether that's some industries and not others, just look at that.

Don't try to distract folk with something that isn't actually having as big an impact as is being said, spend money on getting work places ready for social distancing and providing PPE.

I'm a nobber on a football forum but surely the cunts who are paid to run the show should be hitting something other than getting 5 yr old kids back in doing phonics.

 

The two are inextricably linked. Folk can’t go back to work without kids back to school in the main.