Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Winchester White said: You need to watch the 2and half of the Netflix series pal I have but needn't have bothered.. Netflix? 😂 Please you're joking surely? People can believe whatever they like, dogs don't lie but the McCanns did on multiple occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cheese said: What do you think is the explanation for that? Remember, if it's some sort of conspiracy, hundreds of people (if not thousands) from multiple countries would have to be complicit. I have no idea why but its a fact. The high ranking met officer who was asked to head the re-investigation was warned that the McCanns were off limits. Do a bit of digging around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: I have but needn't have bothered.. Netflix? 😂 Please you're joking surely? People can believe whatever they like, dogs don't lie but the McCanns did on multiple occasions. I have no doubt, they behaved badly and are paying the price for sure. They seem like oddballs quite frankly. However the evidence just isn't there to say they killed their child and managed to cover it up whilst in a foreign country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroySwoosh Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On advice of Mark Harrison, the PJ asked a dog handler, Martin Grime, to bring his dogs to Praia da Luz. Eddie is trained to search for and locate human remains and body fluids including blood. The dog has also been trained to identify 'dead body' scent contamination. Keela is indeed trained to detect blood. Both dogs will alert to dried blood of live human beings. In six years operational deployment in over 200 cases the dog has never alerted to meat based foodstuffs. The dog has never alerted to 'road kill'. Yet in training the dog has alerted to a 1 cm cube of pork soaked in petrol for 1 week and then burnt until only a residue remains. That's according to the handler, Mr Grime. He hasn't provided any records of the dog's successes and failures to substantiate his claims. He worked at South Yorkshire Police Force from 2003 to August 2007. During that period he was deployed on 37 occasions. That's an average of 9 per year. Eddie was seven in 2007.......... He alerted to two different places in the McCanns’ apartment, the garden, two of Kate McCann’s clothes, one of the children’s T-shirts, on the pink soft toy, ‘Cuddle Cat’. He was not deployed in the car, so he didn't alert to two places in the car. He did however alert to the driver's door, in one compartment of which was the car's key card. Eddie alerted to the key card.   None of the alerts by Keela have been confirmed by forensics as being blood. No blood or DNA of Madeleine was found/identified. The DNA that was identified belongs to three living persons. Portuguese forensics examined the apartment the day after Madeleine disappeared. No vestige of blood was found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Winchester White said: I have no doubt, they behaved badly and are paying the price for sure. They seem like oddballs quite frankly. However the evidence just isn't there to say they killed their child and managed to cover it up whilst in a foreign country. There is no evidence of an abduction. The McCanns have lied about how the apartment was broken into, the time Madelaine supposedly went missing & their nighttime habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroySwoosh Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 @RONNIE PHILLIPS everything you're coming up with is thoroughly rebutted on the website I posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: There is no evidence of an abduction. The McCanns have lied about how the apartment was broken into, the time Madelaine supposedly went missing & their nighttime habits. Mate, you might be right and I am wrong but I feel the odds are 99% in my favour. One thing I would say is the police there are almost as incompetent as those from some backwater in the US such as Manitowoc 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: I have no idea why but its a fact. The high ranking met officer who was asked to head the re-investigation was warned that the McCanns were off limits. Do a bit of digging around. I've done a bit of "digging around". I asked you to post a link to this stuff a while back, but you directed me to a terribly-designed website that contains nothing incriminating. Where are you digging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Cheese said: I've done a bit of "digging around". I asked you to post a link to this stuff a while back, but you directed me to a terribly-designed website that contains nothing incriminating. Where are you digging? I'm not here to wipe your arse mate, it's quite simple, put her name in a search engine & off you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: I'm not here to wipe your arse mate, it's quite simple, put her name in a search engine & off you go. But doing that leads you to cranks and conspiracy theories. Do the same for 5G or immunisation and see what that tells you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: I'm not here to wipe your arse mate, it's quite simple, put her name in a search engine & off you go. I have done. I don't want you to wipe my arse. I just can't find anything which reiterates what you're claiming. It might well exist, I just can't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, TroySwoosh said: @RONNIE PHILLIPS everything you're coming up with is thoroughly rebutted on the website I posted It's mainly rebutting the semantics on first perusal. For instance says the McCanns don't change their story but Kate said the shutters had been forced when they hadnt... Will read it more closely when I have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Winchester White said: But doing that leads you to cranks and conspiracy theories. Do the same for 5G or immunisation and see what that tells you. Only if you're that way minded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogs Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Why is it that the folk who believe stuff like this and 5G and pizzagate and wayfair etc always just tell people to "open your eyes" and "it's all there to see for yourself" but then end up getting all shirty when you merely ask for links to what they have formed their opinion on, that isn't complete horse shit???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted July 30, 2020 Members Share Posted July 30, 2020 @RONNIE PHILLIPS did it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, boogs said: Why is it that the folk who believe stuff like this and 5G and pizzagate and wayfair etc always just tell people to "open your eyes" and "it's all there to see for yourself" but then end up getting all shirty when you merely ask for links to what they have formed their opinion on, that isn't complete horse shit???? No mate it's sheer fucking laziness... Try Sonia Poulton or Peter Hyatt for starters. It may make you think differently, it may not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Rudy said: @RONNIE PHILLIPS did it Shuuuuush 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: No mate it's sheer fucking laziness... Try Sonia Poulton or Peter Hyatt for starters. It may make you think differently, it may not. Throw James Bogart in as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 I respect Ronnie's persistence on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Speaking of missing kids can anybody remember this? Shocked I only heard about them the other year. Â https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37999316 Â https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Patrick_Warren_and_David_Spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: No mate it's sheer fucking laziness... Try Sonia Poulton or Peter Hyatt for starters. It may make you think differently, it may not.  30 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Throw James Bogart in as well. A small clique of 3 Youtuber conspiracy theorists then. That's your source. Edited July 30, 2020 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cheese said:  A small clique of 3 Youtuber conspiracy theorists then. That's your source. Or maybe 2 reporters who have examined the evidence & a highly respected expert in the field of statement analysis.... I have no desire to convert you to my personal belief on this subject but anybody who looks thoroughly at everything surrounding the whole event & doesn't see anything irregular really doesn't want to see but I'm sure cover ups never really happen.... Off to get fitted for my tinfoil hat now 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogs Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: No mate it's sheer fucking laziness... Try Sonia Poulton or Peter Hyatt for starters. It may make you think differently, it may not. I wasn't aiming it at anybody in particular, just seems its generally the case. I raised the possibility that this pizzagate was complete nonsense the other day with someone that I have been unfortunate enough to end up in a WhatsApp group with, his "proof" was a picture of a list of countries with numbers next to them, any fucker could've knocked it up in 2 minutes. The numbers referred to the amount of children that go missing each year. Britain was 230,000!!! That's just short of 2000 a month! How can any fucker believe this shit. I just left it there with him, what's the point in trying to converse with someone who throws that at you as some sort of reliable evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 No worries mate, I know where you're coming from. The Mccann case has fascinated me for many reasons & even if I'm totally wrong it's quite astounding how they haven't at least been charged with child neglect on their own evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Sorry I'm struggling to understand what you mean by "dogs don't lie"Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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