just wondering where we are at

Im sick to the back teeth of it

Reckon I had it over Christmas and new year. Worst cold /flu I've ever had. Been having on off colds and coughs since and had January where we were both fucked doing anything.

We ain't getting a vaccine that means we all return to norm before end of next year at the earliest. 

And, without being a Facebook anti-vaxxer, I have to question how reliable is something that will have been pushed through in 18 months or less. The government are consulting on distribution of an unlicensed product already... 

See...authorising temporary supply of an unlicensed product

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu

 

Must add to that... 

I'm socially distancing and wearing a mask where required 

We also knew that last Christmas we really didn't want to pass it on to others, we couldn't leave ours but also asked that others give us a wide berth too 

Looking like it'll be same again this year! 🤣 

Don’t want it but I’d rather have it and get it over and done with. Weren’t the early estimates that 90% of the population will catch it (until a vaccine is available) 

Whether I catch it or not is irrelevant to me - the over-riding factor for me is not wanting to catch it and pass it on to others, which could ultimately result in someone suffering, or much worse. For that reason, I'm happy to take whatever precautions the science suggests may reduce that risk. Although I am in a very fortunate position where I can easily work from home most of the time, and was never furloughed, so I understand why a lot of people think differently. It's an awful situation.

Edited September 22, 20205 yr by Cheese

6 hours ago, Cheese said:

Whether I catch it or not is irrelevant to me - the over-riding factor for me is not wanting to catch it and pass it on to others, which could ultimately result in someone suffering, or much worse. For that reason, I'm happy to take whatever precautions the science suggests may reduce that risk. Although I am in a very fortunate position where I can easily work from home most of the time, and was never furloughed, so I understand why a lot of people think differently. It's an awful situation.

I'm of the same thoughts.

 

A clear conscience is better than the alternative.

11 hours ago, stevieb said:

Reckon I had it over Christmas and new year. Worst cold /flu I've ever had. Been having on off colds and coughs since and had January where we were both fucked doing anything.

We ain't getting a vaccine that means we all return to norm before end of next year at the earliest. 

And, without being a Facebook anti-vaxxer, I have to question how reliable is something that will have been pushed through in 18 months or less. The government are consulting on distribution of an unlicensed product already... 

See...authorising temporary supply of an unlicensed product

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu

Must add to that... 

I'm socially distancing and wearing a mask where required 

We also knew that last Christmas we really didn't want to pass it on to others, we couldn't leave ours but also asked that others give us a wide berth too 

Looking like it'll be same again this year! 🤣 

 

 

To be fair, last Christmas you’ll have thought it was flu. You won’t have even heard of Wuhan. They didn’t let anyone know about an illness which later became the pandemic until 31st Dec.

 

1 minute ago, MickyD said:

 

To be fair, last Christmas you’ll have thought it was flu. You won’t have even heard of Wuhan. They didn’t let anyone know about an illness which later became the pandemic until 31st Dec.

 

Its a funny one this; there was definitely something nasty going about a bit earlier than Covid-19 officially got here. Whether it was that, or something else- another coronavirus perhaps- who knows. I would hazard a guess at it being something else, but when you read about Swanny’s missus, you do wonder. 

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Its a funny one this; there was definitely something nasty going about a bit earlier than Covid-19 officially got here. Whether it was that, or something else- another coronavirus perhaps- who knows. I would hazard a guess at it being something else, but when you read about Swanny’s missus, you do wonder. 

Indeed, it could well have been C-19 but Wuhan province dragging their feet didn’t alert WHO to anything until it was probably too late to do much. Imagine if the Chinese Province had been put in immediate lockdown.

1 minute ago, MickyD said:

Indeed, it could well have been C-19 but Wuhan province dragging their feet didn’t alert WHO to anything until it was probably too late to do much. Imagine if the Chinese Province had been put in immediate lockdown.

I heard Trump having another dig at them yesterday. He might actually have a point, assuming his assertion was correct. He claimed they were still allowing international travel, whilst starting local restrictions within the country itself.

Bit naughty if they had indeed got concerns over the emergence of a new virus.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Its a funny one this; there was definitely something nasty going about a bit earlier than Covid-19 officially got here. Whether it was that, or something else- another coronavirus perhaps- who knows. I would hazard a guess at it being something else, but when you read about Swanny’s missus, you do wonder. 

I've had several discussions about this with the nurses at the Plasma donation place. One of them said to me something along the lines of "I wish I had a quid for every time somebody had said that they'd definitely had it over November or December last year" - she said whenever they've tested any of these people, they've all come back showing that they've not got antibodies, therefore couldn't have possibly had it already. She did confirm there was a very nasty virus/illness doing the rounds at the turn of the year, but it wasn't COVID-19.

Obviously that's her opinion, but you'd expect that she would have half an idea

8 hours ago, Sweep said:

I've had several discussions about this with the nurses at the Plasma donation place. One of them said to me something along the lines of "I wish I had a quid for every time somebody had said that they'd definitely had it over November or December last year" - she said whenever they've tested any of these people, they've all come back showing that they've not got antibodies, therefore couldn't have possibly had it already. She did confirm there was a very nasty virus/illness doing the rounds at the turn of the year, but it wasn't COVID-19.

Obviously that's her opinion, but you'd expect that she would have half an idea

I'll take that and stop ballooning that I've probably had it then! 

 

2 minutes ago, stevieb said:

I'll take that and stop ballooning that I've probably had it then! 

 

Doesn't mean you haven't had a dose of something a bit nasty though!

Some aren't getting any symptoms from covid, whereas flu might drop them.

Who knows. 

Still don't want it though 😕 

As ridiculous as this sounds as long as I can go to work and kids can go to school after that I’m happy to take any precautions/lockdowns that come our way. 

On 22/09/2020 at 22:54, stevieb said:

Must add to that... 

I'm socially distancing and wearing a mask where required 

We also knew that last Christmas we really didn't want to pass it on to others, we couldn't leave ours but also asked that others give us a wide berth too 

Looking like it'll be same again this year! 🤣 

I’ve heard some excuses for dipping games but.....

1 hour ago, tomski said:

As ridiculous as this sounds as long as I can go to work and kids can go to school after that I’m happy to take any precautions/lockdowns that come our way. 

Same here

Whos getting the app then?

Yay or nay?

Nay for moi

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Whos getting the app then?

Yay or nay?

Nay for moi

 

Certain businesses are required by law to display the NHS QR code posters from today. If they have visitors without the app they have to take a msnual log of the visitors details, or get potential fines. 

38 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Whos getting the app then?

Yay or nay?

Nay for moi

Why not?

Depends n the closeness of the contact

 

23 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why not?

What am I going do with the information?

Im not isolating because one of hundreds of customers, residents, hotel guests, pub cleaners or any other tom dick or harry has tested positive.

I wear a mask and gloves when required and work outside and keep my distance inside.

 

My concern is I go out sit 10ft from somebody who has it then get notified to isolate

kids school have it right if any kids display symptoms it’s them and the kid at the side/in front who isolate 

Edited September 24, 20205 yr by radcliffe white

11 minutes ago, gonzo said:

What am I going do with the information?

Im not isolating because one of hundreds of customers, residents, hotel guests, pub cleaners or any other tom dick or harry has tested positive.

I wear a mask and gloves when required and work outside and keep my distance inside.

 

It uses bluetooth technology for the tracing - lets you know if you've been close to someone for a while who tests positive a few days later - it will be metres mate, or you can turn your bluetooth off when you're working, put it on at other times - it's not going to tell you to isolate if you've walked past someone who gets covid in 2 weeks time.

 

 

Edited September 24, 20205 yr by peelyfeet

It's all on here

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-covid-19-app-launches-across-england-and-wales

6 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

It uses bluetooth technology for the tracing - lets you know if you've been close to someone for a while who tests positive a few days later - it will be metres mate, or you can turn your bluetooth off when you're working, put it on at other times - it's not going to tell you to isolate if you've walked past someone who gets covid in 2 weeks time.

 

 

Spot on 👍

Just now, gonzo said:

Spot on 👍

If your'e working outside on your own, and you're worried about your bluetooth connecting to someone the other side of a window, just turn it off, or disregard any warnings you get - it won't be law to isolate from the tracing info it gives, just gives you a heads up.