Escobarp Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, mickbrown said: Dunno, reckon they'll have a sniff. Especially is that dollop of shite is still fucking about as PM. He won’t be that’s a certainty. I just think it’s very easy to sit there on the opposition bench and tell the government they should be spending more. The frightening bit is labour actually believe it’s the answer all the time. For that reason too many people won’t vote them In for me for a long time. I’m also becoming less and less impressed with starmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, mickbrown said: You think the that if Labour win they'll spend the next 10 years whining about fixing the mess the Tories left behind? who ever wins in the next 50 years i think they will be whining about what they inherited but really, can anyone on here get their heads around these sums of money , its proper magic money tree is the whole world gonna just push reboot when its finished ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Fwiw I cannot see how any decent human being can vote against it. But that said the fundamental flaw is in the benefits system that some Of these scruffy cunts can sit at home smoking and drinking all day but kids go un fed. But not sure we will ever solve that. It’s not a government issue it’s a societal issue and one that is getting worse. More and more scrotes kicking about year on year It won’t stop until the state stops funding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: And here's the commy from the shed 😁 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 22, 2020 Members Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: It won’t stop until the state stops funding them. What about the people who actually need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: It won’t stop until the state stops funding them. So now you're saying no benefits at all? You ever had any? Ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Rudy said: What about the people who actually need it Let the fuckers starve. Obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: It won’t stop until the state stops funding them. I get you but we can’t let kids suffer as a result. Like you said earlier we need to find a way of punishing parents (i use the parent term loosely) or increasing social care. But then that needs funding too. people should need to pass a test to be a parent. There are some disgusting people about. But sorry those who voted against feeding these kids are in the same ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, mickbrown said: And up steps 'all heart' Mounts to have a crack at it. I'd like to think it's all an internet act and I'm sure you're a lovely bloke in real life, but you don't half come across as a mean spirited, heartless fucker sometimes. I’d be first to Chuck in the money if a kid was starving but the state has to have a cut off point and we have to try to educate folk that there is a limit to what the state can do to help, yes put in a safety net for genuine need and for parents who are trying their best to cope, but there has to be some self reliance and accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 22, 2020 Members Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, mickbrown said: Let the fuckers starve. Obviously Might as well round them up and throw them in the sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said: who ever wins in the next 50 years i think they will be whining about what they inherited but really, can anyone on here get their heads around these sums of money , its proper magic money tree is the whole world gonna just push reboot when its finished ? You can’t as you devalue all the currencies. It’s a complex mother fucker of a mess this to get out of. Just going to be a long hard slog for many generations to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, mickbrown said: So now you're saying no benefits at all? You ever had any? Ever? No I’m not saying that, I’ve had 1 weeks dole money at 16, since then nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 22, 2020 Members Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: I’d be first to Chuck in the money if a kid was starving but the state has to have a cut off point and we have to try to educate folk that there is a limit to what the state can do to help, yes put in a safety net for genuine need and for parents who are trying their best to cope, but there has to be some self reliance and accountability. There will always be those grey areas, and those who exploit it. How many people are claiming but taking cash in hand jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: No I’m not saying that, I’ve had 1 weeks dole money at 16, since then nothing. Child benefit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 22, 2020 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: I’d be first to Chuck in the money if a kid was starving but the state has to have a cut off point and we have to try to educate folk that there is a limit to what the state can do to help, yes put in a safety net for genuine need and for parents who are trying their best to cope, but there has to be some self reliance and accountability. I agree. However we are in unprecedented times with hard working folk losing work left right and centre. Some of them are scutters of course but many are struggling to get by right now. This was just a request for an extension till Easter next year, it's not permanent. Not sure how folk can vote against that in good conscience knowing full well there are kids out there going hungry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ErnestTurnip said: We weren't poor, my mam and dad weren't thick or lazy, but this thread got me thinking and I reckon during the 70s and early 80s we only ever had fresh veg on Xmas Day. Apart from spuds, usually as chips or scallops or in some corned hash type of affair. Was every other fucker living The Good Life while we were on egg, chips, and beans? Hated egg n chips for tea Still happened though Home made fish and chips, itd prob be frozen now, granted My mum worked full time from when i went to school Dad, shiftwork for over 40 years After a day at work, i really cant be arsed cooking much Folk seem to suggest its just the kids of lazy benefit cheat slobs that are affected here Well, its not Theres plenty of poor fuckers working for nmw just getting by Some of the attitudes displayed on here make my skin crawl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: Hated egg n chips for tea Still happened though Home made fish and chips, itd prob be frozen now, granted My mum worked full time from when i went to school Dad, shiftwork for over 40 years After a day at work, i really cant be arsed cooking much Folk seem to suggest its just the kids of lazy benefit cheat slobs that are affected here Well, its not Theres plenty of poor fuckers working for nmw just getting by Some of the attitudes displayed on here make my skin crawl as i said, stuck up their own arses mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Child benefit? As a kid, his parents will have received it for him, but probably not for long as i think hes an only child Hes defo had it for his kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, L/H White said: as i said, stuck up their own arses mate Ive no sympathy for benefit cheats, the bone idle, the folk who we all know exist But im not having it a six year old shouldnt get fucking fed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Casino said: Hated egg n chips for tea Still happened though Home made fish and chips, itd prob be frozen now, granted My mum worked full time from when i went to school Dad, shiftwork for over 40 years After a day at work, i really cant be arsed cooking much Folk seem to suggest its just the kids of lazy benefit cheat slobs that are affected here Well, its not Theres plenty of poor fuckers working for nmw just getting by Some of the attitudes displayed on here make my skin crawl There was no minimum wage when we were kids, my mum brought us up and worked from home on a sewing machine for 7 days a week to help put food on the table, the school dinners over school holidays is the thin end of the wedge, folk are relying on the state for more and more, this can’t go on forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 did she refuse child benefit? I think we know the answer to that Why didnt she stand on her own two feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Casino said: As a kid, his parents will have received it for him, but probably not for long as i think hes an only child Hes defo had it for his kids I was one of 3 kids, I’d think my parents might of received benefit but nothing like today, never received anything for my lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 Well, as one of 3, your mum got child benefit Til i was a teenager, it wasnt paid for the first child And sorry, im not having it youve never received CB for your lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Casino said: did she refuse child benefit? I think we know the answer to that Why didnt she stand on her own two feet I’m not against all benefits, but there is a limit to what the state can offer, all kids now get free meals for the first 3 years, kids who are from lower income get free school meals forever, is it asking to much for parents to feed kids while on half term, I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 and again, its all irrelevant Youre saying youre comfortable with kids either going hungry or being taken in care Thats what youre saying Its fucking heartless and you dont actually believe that You might be daft but youre not a twat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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