Moderators Casino Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’m not against all benefits, but there is a limit to what the state can offer, all kids now get free meals for the first 3 years, kids who are from lower income get free school meals forever, is it asking to much for parents to feed kids while on half term, I think not. its too much for some Others like mine and yours wouldve gone hungry themselves Ffs, mate, your mrs must come across some of the kids we are talking about I know my eldest does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 The thing is, we all know there’s loads that take the piss. That should not mean those that are trying to make ends meet and playing by the rules should suffer. The onus is on the government to figure out how to deal with it and not just say say “fuck them all”. The fact it’s taken a footballer from that type of background to actually make everyone take notice is on all of us. The attitudes of the snooty fucking Tory shaggers is inhumane at best. Those same people who keep telling me we’re the greatest nation on earth seem happy to stick the knife into their fellow countrymen at any opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: and again, its all irrelevant Youre saying youre comfortable with kids either going hungry or being taken in care Thats what youre saying Its fucking heartless and you dont actually believe that You might be daft but youre not a twat Its a lost cause mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 The parents could be the biggest waste of space criminal dossers in the world. still doesnt mean the kids should go hungry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Casino said: and again, its all irrelevant Youre saying youre comfortable with kids either going hungry or being taken in care Thats what youre saying Its fucking heartless and you dont actually believe that You might be daft but youre not a twat Kids must be protected there has to be a safety net, social services are well aware of families with issues that need help, and they get the help they need, opening schools is another blanket suggestion from the Labour Party that is designed to put pressure on the government, not surprised it didn’t pass Parliament. Kids need protecting but this wasn’t the way to go about it in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Kids must be protected there has to be a safety net, social services are well aware of families with issues that need help, and they get the help they need, opening schools is another blanket suggestion from the Labour Party that is designed to put pressure on the government, not surprised it didn’t pass Parliament. Kids need protecting but this wasn’t the way to go about it in my opinion. We’re the greatest nation on earth. Sovereign. Independent. Surely we can manage to form a government capable of feeding hungry kids whilst simultaneously educating the parents about their moral ineptitude? Otherwise, we’re just cavemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Escobarp Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 I came from a very poor background as a kid. Had literally fuck all. My mum worked 3 jobs to make ends meet I’ve no idea what support she got from the government but it wouldn’t have been anything like a lot get now. ive a very good friend who lives on fresh air. She Works Full time has two young kids both dads give nothing. Utter cunts. She’s a shell Of the person I used to know due to living this life and the stress is causes. Because she works full time etc she doesn’t qualify for free school meals etc and very limited government support. She would be better off not working but she isn’t that sort of person, she’s too proud ive been paying out of my own pocket for over a year now to bridge the gap between what she earns and gets in support to what they need to live. Every month I do it. I don’t have any kids but the thought of these two going without beaks my heart. It’s why I do what I do. I’m not saying this on here for plaudits. Far from it. I’m saying it because this is a live example of how some folk are actually living. she’s a fabulous mother but she just cannot survive on what she can generate income wise. It’s a crying shame and upset me one day when I popped round when I was nearby with some bits for the kids and went into the fridge and there was nothing in but half a piece of cheese. She had nothing because her car had broken down and had to get it fixed so they went without food. So that’s when I started helping her. my missus has no idea I do it she would absolutely flip. But it boils my piss when I see cunts getting new houses paid from benefits and boozing and never short of fags etc it’s these people we need to deal with as a society it’s impossible I know i like To think most if not all On here would do the same as me if they had the need and ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I came from a very poor background as a kid. Had literally fuck all. My mum worked 3 jobs to make ends meet I’ve no idea what support she got from the government but it wouldn’t have been anything like a lot get now. ive a very good friend who lives on fresh air. She Works Full time has two young kids both dads give nothing. Utter cunts. She’s a shell Of the person I used to know due to living this life and the stress is causes. Because she works full time etc she doesn’t qualify for free school meals etc and very limited government support. She would be better off not working but she isn’t that sort of person, she’s too proud ive been paying out of my own pocket for over a year now to bridge the gap between what she earns and gets in support to what they need to live. Every month I do it. I don’t have any kids but the thought of these two going without beaks my heart. It’s why I do what I do. I’m not saying this on here for plaudits. Far from it. I’m saying it because this is a live example of how some folk are actually living. she’s a fabulous mother but she just cannot survive on what she can generate income wise. It’s a crying shame and upset me one day when I popped round when I was nearby with some bits for the kids and went into the fridge and there was nothing in but half a piece of cheese. She had nothing because her car had broken down and had to get it fixed so they went without food. So that’s when I started helping her. my missus has no idea I do it she would absolutely flip. But it boils my piss when I see cunts getting new houses paid from benefits and boozing and never short of fags etc it’s these people we need to deal with as a society it’s impossible I know i like To think most if not all On here would do the same as me if they had the need and ability. These are the folk I feel sorry for, how the Dads get away with it and why would you not pay for your kids I don’t know. Anyhow fair play for helping her make ends meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: These are the folk I feel sorry for, how the Dads get away with it and why would you not pay for your kids I don’t know. Anyhow fair play for helping her make ends meet. I’ve sat with her and said I will go and speak to both dadsbut she says no it’s not my place. She won’t go for csa and tbh it’s not my place so I just do what I can to help her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 22, 2020 Members Share Posted October 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I came from a very poor background as a kid. Had literally fuck all. My mum worked 3 jobs to make ends meet I’ve no idea what support she got from the government but it wouldn’t have been anything like a lot get now. ive a very good friend who lives on fresh air. She Works Full time has two young kids both dads give nothing. Utter cunts. She’s a shell Of the person I used to know due to living this life and the stress is causes. Because she works full time etc she doesn’t qualify for free school meals etc and very limited government support. She would be better off not working but she isn’t that sort of person, she’s too proud ive been paying out of my own pocket for over a year now to bridge the gap between what she earns and gets in support to what they need to live. Every month I do it. I don’t have any kids but the thought of these two going without beaks my heart. It’s why I do what I do. I’m not saying this on here for plaudits. Far from it. I’m saying it because this is a live example of how some folk are actually living. she’s a fabulous mother but she just cannot survive on what she can generate income wise. It’s a crying shame and upset me one day when I popped round when I was nearby with some bits for the kids and went into the fridge and there was nothing in but half a piece of cheese. She had nothing because her car had broken down and had to get it fixed so they went without food. So that’s when I started helping her. my missus has no idea I do it she would absolutely flip. But it boils my piss when I see cunts getting new houses paid from benefits and boozing and never short of fags etc it’s these people we need to deal with as a society it’s impossible I know i like To think most if not all On here would do the same as me if they had the need and ability. Will you stop it you’re supposed to be a cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Rudy said: Will you stop it you’re supposed to be a cunt I was thinking that. What a cunt. I was actually wondering how long would be morally acceptable to wait before asking HBAHT. Ruins everything the Scottish twat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: I’ve sat with her and said I will go and speak to both dadsbut she says no it’s not my place. She won’t go for csa and tbh it’s not my place so I just do what I can to help her. I’m sure she could get benefit, and no one would begrudge her doing that. It would improve her life and her kids life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rudy said: Will you stop it you’re supposed to be a cunt Most cunts are usually alright and kind hearted, obviously with the exception of me. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Spider said: I was thinking that. What a cunt. I was actually wondering how long would be morally acceptable to wait before asking HBAHT. Ruins everything the Scottish twat 38d. Estimate maybe 36 maybe dd also never asked Edited October 22, 2020 by Escobarp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I’ve sat with her and said I will go and speak to both dadsbut she says no it’s not my place. She won’t go for csa and tbh it’s not my place so I just do what I can to help her. great stuff, jockstrap Seriously While she and others like her wont go to the csa, itll just carry on But, like you say, not your place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Casino said: great stuff, jockstrap Seriously While she and others like her wont go to the csa, itll just carry on But, like you say, not your place 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Escobarp said: 👍🏼 Good thing that you are doing there lad. But seriously, in the long run might be better for her if you could gently nudge her into getting what she is due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I came from a very poor background as a kid. Had literally fuck all. My mum worked 3 jobs to make ends meet I’ve no idea what support she got from the government but it wouldn’t have been anything like a lot get now. ive a very good friend who lives on fresh air. She Works Full time has two young kids both dads give nothing. Utter cunts. She’s a shell Of the person I used to know due to living this life and the stress is causes. Because she works full time etc she doesn’t qualify for free school meals etc and very limited government support. She would be better off not working but she isn’t that sort of person, she’s too proud ive been paying out of my own pocket for over a year now to bridge the gap between what she earns and gets in support to what they need to live. Every month I do it. I don’t have any kids but the thought of these two going without beaks my heart. It’s why I do what I do. I’m not saying this on here for plaudits. Far from it. I’m saying it because this is a live example of how some folk are actually living. she’s a fabulous mother but she just cannot survive on what she can generate income wise. It’s a crying shame and upset me one day when I popped round when I was nearby with some bits for the kids and went into the fridge and there was nothing in but half a piece of cheese. She had nothing because her car had broken down and had to get it fixed so they went without food. So that’s when I started helping her. my missus has no idea I do it she would absolutely flip. But it boils my piss when I see cunts getting new houses paid from benefits and boozing and never short of fags etc it’s these people we need to deal with as a society it’s impossible I know i like To think most if not all On here would do the same as me if they had the need and ability. You’re a contradictory twat on here but that is a top effort👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 22, 2020 Members Share Posted October 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Most cunts are usually alright and kind hearted, obviously with the exception of me. 😂 I get your points on this Mounts. The system is a mess, flawed and exploited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 There are undoubtedly folk who take the piss but they're far far fewer than the people in Escobarp's friends situation. They're just more visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 22, 2020 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: I came from a very poor background as a kid. Had literally fuck all. My mum worked 3 jobs to make ends meet I’ve no idea what support she got from the government but it wouldn’t have been anything like a lot get now. ive a very good friend who lives on fresh air. She Works Full time has two young kids both dads give nothing. Utter cunts. She’s a shell Of the person I used to know due to living this life and the stress is causes. Because she works full time etc she doesn’t qualify for free school meals etc and very limited government support. She would be better off not working but she isn’t that sort of person, she’s too proud ive been paying out of my own pocket for over a year now to bridge the gap between what she earns and gets in support to what they need to live. Every month I do it. I don’t have any kids but the thought of these two going without beaks my heart. It’s why I do what I do. I’m not saying this on here for plaudits. Far from it. I’m saying it because this is a live example of how some folk are actually living. she’s a fabulous mother but she just cannot survive on what she can generate income wise. It’s a crying shame and upset me one day when I popped round when I was nearby with some bits for the kids and went into the fridge and there was nothing in but half a piece of cheese. She had nothing because her car had broken down and had to get it fixed so they went without food. So that’s when I started helping her. my missus has no idea I do it she would absolutely flip. But it boils my piss when I see cunts getting new houses paid from benefits and boozing and never short of fags etc it’s these people we need to deal with as a society it’s impossible I know i like To think most if not all On here would do the same as me if they had the need and ability. Good work sir! I know you said she was proud but there are good charities our there who can help, even if it is just to make sure she is claiming all the benefits she can. Boils my piss when good folk struggle like this when feckless stealing shithouses don't work and play the system. Still, according to some it is best we don't feed her kids of a half term than let the odd scutter use it for ciggies and vodka... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: I came from a very poor background as a kid. Had literally fuck all. My mum worked 3 jobs to make ends meet I’ve no idea what support she got from the government but it wouldn’t have been anything like a lot get now. ive a very good friend who lives on fresh air. She Works Full time has two young kids both dads give nothing. Utter cunts. She’s a shell Of the person I used to know due to living this life and the stress is causes. Because she works full time etc she doesn’t qualify for free school meals etc and very limited government support. She would be better off not working but she isn’t that sort of person, she’s too proud ive been paying out of my own pocket for over a year now to bridge the gap between what she earns and gets in support to what they need to live. Every month I do it. I don’t have any kids but the thought of these two going without beaks my heart. It’s why I do what I do. I’m not saying this on here for plaudits. Far from it. I’m saying it because this is a live example of how some folk are actually living. she’s a fabulous mother but she just cannot survive on what she can generate income wise. It’s a crying shame and upset me one day when I popped round when I was nearby with some bits for the kids and went into the fridge and there was nothing in but half a piece of cheese. She had nothing because her car had broken down and had to get it fixed so they went without food. So that’s when I started helping her. my missus has no idea I do it she would absolutely flip. But it boils my piss when I see cunts getting new houses paid from benefits and boozing and never short of fags etc it’s these people we need to deal with as a society it’s impossible I know i like To think most if not all On here would do the same as me if they had the need and ability. 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: I came from a very poor background as a kid. Had literally fuck all. My mum worked 3 jobs to make ends meet I’ve no idea what support she got from the government but it wouldn’t have been anything like a lot get now. ive a very good friend who lives on fresh air. She Works Full time has two young kids both dads give nothing. Utter cunts. She’s a shell Of the person I used to know due to living this life and the stress is causes. Because she works full time etc she doesn’t qualify for free school meals etc and very limited government support. She would be better off not working but she isn’t that sort of person, she’s too proud ive been paying out of my own pocket for over a year now to bridge the gap between what she earns and gets in support to what they need to live. Every month I do it. I don’t have any kids but the thought of these two going without beaks my heart. It’s why I do what I do. I’m not saying this on here for plaudits. Far from it. I’m saying it because this is a live example of how some folk are actually living. she’s a fabulous mother but she just cannot survive on what she can generate income wise. It’s a crying shame and upset me one day when I popped round when I was nearby with some bits for the kids and went into the fridge and there was nothing in but half a piece of cheese. She had nothing because her car had broken down and had to get it fixed so they went without food. So that’s when I started helping her. my missus has no idea I do it she would absolutely flip. But it boils my piss when I see cunts getting new houses paid from benefits and boozing and never short of fags etc it’s these people we need to deal with as a society it’s impossible I know i like To think most if not all On here would do the same as me if they had the need and ability. Top post that fella. Fuck knows how any father can ignore their kids in that situation, even if all they can offer is parenting support. It's fucked. I get the anger about those who take the piss. Especially when you see mates like yours being put off because of the stigma. For me FSM is the most effective way of getting a proper meal to those need it. Rashford's charity have spent plenty time researching it to. Can't be sold, traded or misspent. They're effective whilst wider issues are addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Escobarp said: I came from a very poor background as a kid. Had literally fuck all. My mum worked 3 jobs to make ends meet I’ve no idea what support she got from the government but it wouldn’t have been anything like a lot get now. ive a very good friend who lives on fresh air. She Works Full time has two young kids both dads give nothing. Utter cunts. She’s a shell Of the person I used to know due to living this life and the stress is causes. Because she works full time etc she doesn’t qualify for free school meals etc and very limited government support. She would be better off not working but she isn’t that sort of person, she’s too proud ive been paying out of my own pocket for over a year now to bridge the gap between what she earns and gets in support to what they need to live. Every month I do it. I don’t have any kids but the thought of these two going without beaks my heart. It’s why I do what I do. I’m not saying this on here for plaudits. Far from it. I’m saying it because this is a live example of how some folk are actually living. she’s a fabulous mother but she just cannot survive on what she can generate income wise. It’s a crying shame and upset me one day when I popped round when I was nearby with some bits for the kids and went into the fridge and there was nothing in but half a piece of cheese. She had nothing because her car had broken down and had to get it fixed so they went without food. So that’s when I started helping her. my missus has no idea I do it she would absolutely flip. But it boils my piss when I see cunts getting new houses paid from benefits and boozing and never short of fags etc it’s these people we need to deal with as a society it’s impossible I know i like To think most if not all On here would do the same as me if they had the need and ability. Very admirable mate. I worked for a Housing Association for 4 years and met or heard of so many people who struggle every month to just get by. If you watch Rich House Poor House on the telly the budgets people are surviving on is tiny. These are people on minimum wage and zero hours contracts. £100 a week for a family of four for everything (after rent) is not unusual. £14 a day. £3.50 per head per day. Fuck knows what happens when kids need shoes etc etc. Are we really that divided as a society that people would deny a kid a hot meal at Xmas. The recession is coming and it is the people at the bottom who will bear the brunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 22, 2020 At the end of the day, it can't cost that much to make chips and beans en masse for those that need it And whilst I applaud his efforts I reckon @Escobarp has had at least fingers and tops in return for his benevolence Just in case -> 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I would like to see the Tories come up with an alternative plan to feed these kids over half term perhaps a food voucher system for supermarkets, encourage supermarkets to part fund it, great advertising for those supermarkets who take part, reduces cost to tax payer, prevents schools having to open and staff having to turn up to look after a handful of kids. I’d be much more in favour of a scheme something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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