the last shooting / things that go on in America thread has definitely dissappeared

anyway

not the "happy ending" you would have expected

https://twitter.com/i/events/1371972779893944327

Suspect arrested after eight people, including six Asian women, were killed at Atlanta-area spas

Eight people, including six Asian women, were killed in shootings at three different businesses in Atlanta and Acworth, Georgia, on Tuesday, according to local police. A male suspect was arrested and charged with several counts of murder on Wednesday, police said. At a press conference in Atlanta on Wednesday, authorities identified the four victims killed in Cherokee County.

 

6 hours ago, Spider said:

Are these Koreans all called Jesus ?

The pacific is a lot of water to walk across

I think it involved Russia, into Alaska and then down through Canada, which is maybe went he thought he and his pals could be "front line" 

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

I think it involved Russia, into Alaska and then down through Canada, which is maybe went he thought he and his pals could be "front line" 

They did it in Red Dawn 

walked up through Mexico 

 

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

In Vegas, this bloke was from Washington, about an hour away from Seattle, so as far north as you're getting really (Alaska aside obvs) 

I’ve found Americans in general, regardless of where they’re from or which political party they follow are complete fuck tards. 

4 hours ago, Sweep said:

In Vegas, this bloke was from Washington, about an hour away from Seattle, so as far north as you're getting really (Alaska aside obvs) 

Washington and Seattle the only 2 places I’ve spent time in America, wasn’t keen on either to be honest…. Even the Washington state wine was average although the vineyards I visited were lovely. (Sadly wine wasn’t) 

The worlds most powerful man

 

 

 

47 minutes ago, royal white said:

The worlds most powerful man

 

 

 

Poor fella... he obviously has pressing health issues, best he stepped down.    

He can't stand next time round surely?

Nowt to do with politics, he clearly struggles at times, and not on the odd occasion. With Trump likely as the alternative, just get a decent, well mannered person in with full faculties. 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

The worlds most powerful man

 

 

 

Imagine losing an election to him.

 

55 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He can't stand next time round surely?

Nowt to do with politics, he clearly struggles at times, and not on the odd occasion. With Trump likely as the alternative, just get a decent, well mannered person in with full faculties. 

I'll be surprised if he does, but it is the United States of America, so absolutely anything is possible. 

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Imagine losing an election to him.

 

On a policy basis he's done an exceptional job.

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

On a policy basis he's done an exceptional job.

Irrespective of politics- some over there will agree with you, other won't- he's not safe and has made repeated gaffes that might cause a bigger issue at some point in time.

It's just been announced that Republicans have claimed to have new evidence of wrong doing and are seeking to impeach him.

Whether it's a load of bollocks or not, is he capable of handling such proceedings if they came into being?

His approval rating is now 38%, supposedly very low at this stage (latest report) so all in all, they'd be better with a newer candidate. After all, it wouldn't be difficult to beat Trump with someone half decent.

 

I'm just saying, regardless, he has done an decent job by not being too partisan and managing both sides of the house very well and having such a narrow majority and away from headline iniativies has had bi-partisan support for a host of measures.

Wheather he gets back in or not, he's had a very good term in office.

You can see my post on British politics for the thoughts on why the US system is skewed to older leaders generally across the board, and I don't disagree that he is probably too old, as is Trump I'd say only being 3 years between them and indeed as was Reagan when he left office touching 78 ; but that still doesn't take away from the successes that Biden has had during his tenure.

16 hours ago, Sweep said:

I think it involved Russia, into Alaska and then down through Canada, which is maybe went he thought he and his pals could be "front line" 

Kim jong bummer in Russia today. Just saying 

Aye, "trade deal".

Problem is the Dems don't want to oust an incumbent president as it's bad form, and the Republicans are tied to the Trump bandwagon.

So the whole country is left with whoever they view as the least worst option.

I'm sure the Democrats can have a quiet word.

They may have no option if he's deemed not well enough.

I saw a piece a while back, with someone saying the floating voters are desperate for a decent candidate. Even some republicans saying they won't vote for Trump because of his behaviour. 

 

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'm sure the Democrats can have a quiet word.

They may have no option if he's deemed not well enough.

I saw a piece a while back, with someone saying the floating voters are desperate for a decent candidate. Even some republicans saying they won't vote for Trump because of his behaviour. 

 

Can see the republican nomination coming down to Trump and a 'sensible' republican hopefully the sensible one wins and the world can start moving away from the ridiculous Trump era.

The hold religious fundamentalists have on the republican party means they'll never truly be sensible options.

God

Guns

Trump

 

18 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Irrespective of politics- some over there will agree with you, other won't- he's not safe and has made repeated gaffes that might cause a bigger issue at some point in time.

It's just been announced that Republicans have claimed to have new evidence of wrong doing and are seeking to impeach him.

Whether it's a load of bollocks or not, is he capable of handling such proceedings if they came into being?

His approval rating is now 38%, supposedly very low at this stage (latest report) so all in all, they'd be better with a newer candidate. After all, it wouldn't be difficult to beat Trump with someone half decent.

 

 

This is quite amusing though - from Today's The Knowledge;

Comment

It’s time for Biden to shuffle off the stage

Halfway through a ceremony at the White House last week, says Andrew Sullivan on Substack, Joe Biden suddenly wandered off stage, without saying anything, “to somewhat stunned silence”. The 80-year-old did the same at the end of a recent MSNBC interview (above), standing up stiffly and shuffling away. Every time you see the president now, he looks, well, like a man in his eighties. “He’s slow, careful, stilted.” His speech is a little off; his eyes “barely visible in the ancient, botoxed, fillered face”. This isn’t Republican point-scoring: in the latest “brutal” polling, 49% of Democrats say Biden is too old for re-election, and two-thirds want someone else as the party’s nominee next year. It’s true that Donald Trump isn’t young himself, at 77. But he is still full of stamina and zeal. Compared to Biden, “he seems like raw energy”.

Imagine how much better the Democrats would do if Biden pulled out of the race. It would “shift the dynamic” in an instant: the Democratic candidate would represent the future, Trump “the polarised past”. The election would become all about Democratic campaigns and debates, not “the defensive torpor of a frail octogenarian”. Sure, there are no obvious candidates to replace Biden – “but that’s what primaries are for”. The appetite is there: Robert Kennedy Jr is polling around 10%, “despite being completely bonkers”. If the president does stand down, he could say: “I did my part. I saved us from Trump.” If he stays on and loses, his only legacy will be handing the country back to the “monster” he once defeated.

Four more years

He seems to be getting under the skin of all the right people.

Thats what really counts 

He's losing support. That's not getting under the skin of the right people, it's potentially losing the Democrat's presidency.

And giving it back to Trump.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He's losing support. That's not getting under the skin of the right people, it's potentially losing the Democrat's presidency.

And giving it back to Trump.

Can Kamala Harris not run instead? - I honestly have no idea, but as VP, should/would she not be next in line?

6 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Can Kamala Harris not run instead? - I honestly have no idea, but as VP, should/would she not be next in line?

Suppose so, but would she want it, and would she get the nomination?

Especially if Biden wants to stay as the candidate?

You'd think the best thing would be for him to step aside. 

13 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Can Kamala Harris not run instead? - I honestly have no idea, but as VP, should/would she not be next in line?

She's about as popular as a fart in a lift.