Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Hardly surprising considering the population density.

Would have been far, far worse if they had wanted it to be.

Why do you think they are holding back?

10 minutes ago, Zico said:

Why do you think they are holding back?

'Cos they're nice guys really.

25 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Hardly surprising considering the population density.

Would have been far, far worse if they had wanted it to be.

Could probably have been a lot less as well, if they had wanted it to be. 

13 minutes ago, Traf said:

'Cos they're nice guys really.

At least they give advanced notice unlike Hamas

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Trump is well jealous of that!

It's a point so few will acknowledge, let alone discuss.

No neighbours are bending over backwards to let them in.

Why should they? It only supports Israel’s goals.

Still no news on that “official analysis” of yours then I see. 
 

Bit of a mare today mate

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Why should they? It only supports Israel’s goals.

Still no news on that “official analysis” of yours then I see. 
 

Bit of a mare today mate

The same reason many countries bordering Ukraine opened their borders. 

43 minutes ago, royal white said:

The same reason many countries bordering Ukraine opened their borders. 

Two very different conflicts tbh

 

Egypt & other neighbours have said they do it to prevent Israel forcing a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into their countries and preventing Palestinians forming their own state. They provide a lot of support in other ways.

Netanyahu has already said he doesn’t want them to have their own state.

 

5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Two very different conflicts tbh

 

Egypt & other neighbours have said they do it to prevent Israel forcing a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into their countries and preventing Palestinians forming their own state. They provide a lot of support in other ways.

Netanyahu has already said he doesn’t want them to have their own state.

 

You’d think the welfare of millions of innocents, literally meters away, would Trump that. 

Egypt don't want Hamas and other Palestinian Islamist militants destabilising the Sinai peninsula

It's also a country with deep financial problems and has reservations of supporting the arrival of thousands more refugees

43 minutes ago, royal white said:

You’d think the welfare of millions of innocents, literally meters away, would Trump that. 

Strange diversion there

43 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Egypt don't want Hamas and other Palestinian Islamist militants destabilising the Sinai peninsula

It's also a country with deep financial problems and has reservations of supporting the arrival of thousands more refugees

Is the second reason they’ve said.

 They’ve made it very clear that doing so legitimises Israel’s goals.

The solution- let Palestine have its own state. Who’s preventing that?

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Strange diversion there

No diversion. Theres millions of innocent people facing what looks like death, Egypt could easily prevent that. They’re choosing not to because of politics 

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Is the second reason they’ve said.

 They’ve made it very clear that doing so legitimises Israel’s goals.

The solution- let Palestine have its own state. Who’s preventing that?

A little credulous

The border remains closed because the Egyptian government has determined it's in their national interest 

3 hours ago, Zico said:

At least they give advanced notice unlike Hamas

Move to Rafah 

You'll be nice and safe there 

8 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

A little credulous

The border remains closed because the Egyptian government has determined it's in their national interest 

“Egypt has affirmed, and is reiterating, its vehement rejection of the forced displacement of the Palestinians and their transfer to Egyptian lands in Sinai, as this will mark the last gasp in the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, shatter the dream of an independent Palestinian state, and squander the struggle of the Palestinian people and that of the Arab and Islamic peoples over the course of the Palestinian cause that has endured for 75 years,” 

Leaked Israeli intelligence already shows they want to forcibly move people over to Egypt. Jordan and Lebanon were told to take some temporarily and they’ve been living in camps for decades.

Nobody can expect Egypt to suddenly take a million refugees overnight. It would be a huge risk and some of those would be militants. 
 

We could all take our share. But that is what Israel wants.

 It won’t be too long now before Israel loses its Western ties. Views are shifting here and in the US and I can see it happening over the next decade. They need to vote in a less extreme government who supports a two state solution. 

9 hours ago, royal white said:

No diversion. Theres millions of innocent people facing what looks like death, Israel could easily prevent that. 

👍

9 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

A little credulous

The border remains closed because the Egyptian government has determined it's in their national interest 

No wonder they don’t want the cancer of Hamas terrorists entering their borders, it’s a shame that Muslim countries don’t want the responsibility of dealing with these terrorists…. When Israel does the dirty work for them they bleat and moan that Israel is the aggressor… the Muslim world, nations are fucked in the head. 

3 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

“Egypt has affirmed, and is reiterating, its vehement rejection of the forced displacement of the Palestinians and their transfer to Egyptian lands in Sinai, as this will mark the last gasp in the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, shatter the dream of an independent Palestinian state, and squander the struggle of the Palestinian people and that of the Arab and Islamic peoples over the course of the Palestinian cause that has endured for 75 years,” 

Well yes, that's obviously what's claimed

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Well yes, that's obviously what's claimed

That works both ways.

Just now, Cheese said:

That works both ways.

It does

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Well yes, that's obviously what's claimed

Aye, some claim ey. That neighbouring Arab countries want Palestine to be allowed to form their own state and for Israel to stop taking more land. Shock horror of a claim that one. Proper conspiracy stuff. 🙄

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye, some claim ey. That neighbouring Arab countries want Palestine to be allowed to form their own state and for Israel to stop taking more land. Shock horror of a claim that one. Proper conspiracy stuff. 🙄

Of course, it's all in aid of Palestine's right to their own state and not at all to do with their own interest in maintaining the security of the Sinai peninsula

Not at all

🤦‍♂️

 

14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

🤦‍♂️

 

Some on here will be more concerned that it was posted by the Mail. Basically is it’s not the Guardian, James O Brien or some bearded yank then it doesn’t count, 

36 minutes ago, royal white said:

Some on here will be more concerned that it was posted by the Mail. Basically is it’s not the Guardian, James O Brien or some bearded yank then it doesn’t count, 

He's just another member of a growing club.

Time for them to fuck off from the labour party, and set their own up. That way they're not hiding and we can all see what they truly espouse.