5 hours ago, Sluffy said:

Having loads of questions show that I am curious, not that I'm thick.

What it shows is the futility of staring at companies house hoping it'll give you the precise answers for what goes on behind the scenes at a football club.

There are many reasons why things could be presented in the accounts in certain ways, all preceded and given context by many hours of real life conversations between people you've never met. Trying to parse the 'truth' from it all is impossible.

You could've written a novel in the words you've wrote in this thread in the past week alone and you'll continue to spend countless more hours doing the same. And in the end you're really no more informed than a bloke in a pub who's never spent a second thinking about it. It's a dog chasing it's own tail, if the dog wrote essays about it on a football forum.

41 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

What it shows is the futility of staring at companies house hoping it'll give you the precise answers for what goes on behind the scenes at a football club.

There are many reasons why things could be presented in the accounts in certain ways, all preceded and given context by many hours of real life conversations between people you've never met. Trying to parse the 'truth' from it all is impossible.

You could've written a novel in the words you've wrote in this thread in the past week alone and you'll continue to spend countless more hours doing the same. And in the end you're really no more informed than a bloke in a pub who's never spent a second thinking about it. It's a dog chasing it's own tail, if the dog wrote essays about it on a football forum.

That's your opinion mate.

What I choose to do with my time and how I spend it is my choice.

I've never looked for "precise answers" or sought to find "what goes on behind the scenes of a football club", I've simply tried to understand the logic of what has happened and why such decisions were made.

No one can find out why such decisions were made unless it is put into the public domain or someone has reliable information from the inside - so no, I haven't "futilely been staring at companies house" because I'm not stupid enough to do so, as you presumably believe I am.

I simply see it as an intellectual puzzle and not all puzzles can be solved.

I'm taking a break from my real life, other people watch the telly or read a book, most these days live on their phone doing 'socials', some are petrol heads or gym bunnies. others bingo addicts or post on forums about their favourite confectionary from 40 years ago.

We all fill the gaps in our lives doing unimportant stuff - even you.

Even football is nothing more than a 'filler' in our lives, at the end of the day it is just 22 blokes kicking a ball about, isn't it?

How many hours do we spend talking about it, who should be in the team, how we should play, watching the game, analysing it afterwards and repeating it all again, game after game, week after week, month after month, season after season, year after year - do we not - and what do those who aren't the least interested in football think we are doing - aren't we the dogs chasing our own tails and writing a never ending story about it on here?

Well my particular interest whilst doing so is not speculating over team selections and formations, being anxious of other teams, who they've signed and their results, I don't analyse player stats or performance, have favourites and hates, have wish lists of who to sign and who to get out of the club, my interest is not on 'what if's', mine is more on the financial side of things.

Why should that bother you or anyone else. I support the same team as you and unless you can go back to when Bill Ridding was our manager, then I suggest a damn site longer than you.

As I've said earlier...

14 hours ago, Sluffy said:

My interest is harmless, academic and largely confined to just this thread and thus is easily avoided if people don't want to see it - so I can't really understand why so many people seem to get their knickers in a twist over it?

As for your attempt to out me as a Dunning Kruger loser in life, well that backfired spectacularly when you clearly couldn't apply the model to how I've actually been posting on here.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Edited August 11Aug 11 by Sluffy
minor correction needed

1 hour ago, Sluffy said:

That's your opinion mate.

What I choose to do with my time and how I spend it is my choice.

I've never looked for "precise answers" or sought to find "what goes on behind the scenes of a football club", I've simply tried to understand the logic of what has happened and why such decisions were made.

No one can find out why such decisions were made unless it is put into the public domain or someone has reliable information from the inside - so no, I haven't "futilely been staring at companies house" because I'm not stupid enough to do so, as you presumably believe I am.

I simply see it as an intellectual puzzle and not all puzzles can be solved.

I'm taking a break from my real life, other people watch the telly or read a book, most these days live on their phone doing 'socials', some are petrol heads or gym bunnies. others bingo addicts or post on forums about their favourite confectionary from 40 years ago.

We all fill the gaps in our lives doing unimportant stuff - even you.

Even football is nothing more than a 'filler' in our lives, at the end of the day it is just 22 blokes kicking a ball about, isn't it?

How many hours do we spend talking about it, who should be in the team, how we should play, watching the game, analysing it afterwards and repeating it all again, game after game, week after week, month after month, season after season, year after year - do we not - and what do those who aren't the least interested in football think we are doing - aren't we the dogs chasing our own tails and writing a never ending story about it on here?

Well my particular interest whilst doing so is not speculating over team selections and formations, being anxious of other teams, who they've signed and their results, I don't analyse player stats or performance, have favourites and hates, have wish lists of who to sign and who to get out of the club, my interest is not on 'what if's', mine is more on the financial side of things.

Why should that bother you or anyone else. I support the same team as you and unless you can go back to when Bill Ridding was our manager, then I suggest a damn site longer than you.

As I've said earlier...

As for your attempt to out me as a Dunning Kruger loser in life, well that backfired spectacularly when you clearly couldn't apply the model to how I've actually been posting on here.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

did you ever find out why Sharon put her house up for sale?

Just now, Zico said:

did you ever find out why Sharon put her house up for sale?

Oh, you ! 😱

Cue another 47 posts.

5 minutes ago, Zico said:

did you ever find out why Sharon put her house up for sale?

No I didn't.

How would I ever know without someone telling me?

If so why have EEP suddenly turned up with £6.1m this time around?

10 hours ago, Sluffy said:

What does in mean - something or nothing?

Will the Swiss be putting the allowed £9m more some time later, or have they reached their limit?

How do you know it was done this financial year?

Edited August 11Aug 11 by jmjhb

7 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

No I didn't.

How would I ever know without someone telling me?

just another unsolved puzzle then

let us know if you find out

7 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

If so why have EEP suddenly turned up with £6.1m this time around?

How do you know it was done this financial year?

???

Because it has been notified to Companies House that the Shares were allotted on the 22nd July 2026.

I can't imagine £6.1m has been 'resting' in the clubs bank account since before the 30th June 2026.

5 minutes ago, Zico said:

just another unsolved puzzle then

let us know if you find out

I've no interested in finding out?

I was interested when the Administrator apparently scrubbed out £7m of Eddie's and Anderson's claims, and was also interested why Anderson apparently left £1.25m behind when he left.

And thanks to you and DLH I was kindly given explanations to them.

Am I somehow not allowed to be interested in these sort of things?

Is that in some way problem a problem on here?

4 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I've no interested in finding out?

I was interested when the Administrator apparently scrubbed out £7m of Eddie's and Anderson's claims, and was also interested why Anderson apparently left £1.25m behind when he left.

And thanks to you and DLH I was kindly given explanations to them.

Am I somehow not allowed to be interested in these sort of things?

Is that in some way problem a problem on here?

not at all

you can ask anything of interest

I recall you suggesting maybe sharon was putting her house up for sale because she was looking to sell up her stake and move on

you seemed interested at the time so was wondering if you'd found out any more on this

Remember a few weeks back when I said Companies House had received TWO notifications apparently for the same thing and I wondered if there might have been a duplication - well there wasn't.

What seems to have happened is that both the C Shares that Sharon, James, BMLL Ltd and the Luckock brothers and those of EEP Ltd have been converted to normal A Shares as per the notification to Companies House on the 7th August but which actually took place on the 22nd July (the same day EEP purchased their shares.

Fwiw there seems to have been an addition error by someone filing the forms to CH in that the form for Sharon et al dated 1st August shows 3,156,094 C Shares issued and the form for EEP dated the 22nd July shows 3,156,094 which totals 9,088,253 but had been stated on the 22nd July as the aggregated total of C Shares as 9,089,043

1 hour ago, Sluffy said:

I can't imagine £6.1m has been 'resting' in the clubs bank account since before the 30th June 2026.

🤐

33 minutes ago, DLH said:

🤐

I take it then you don't want to reply to 'Custard's' request to you?

11 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I take it then you don't want to reply to 'Custard's' request to you?

I don't think there is much point as it just opens up a whole new raft of questions.

Some of what I heard was rumours, no need for those 7 years on. The one I heard at the time that was then reported on was changing the price mid discussions, I believe it happened a few times. Iles reported on it in the wake of the prospectus for investors I think, but again it is what it is. We survived we move on.

47 minutes ago, DLH said:

🤐

That's more to do with the fact that we're going down the rabbit hole again. You say this;

3 hours ago, Sluffy said:

I can't imagine £6.1m has been 'resting' in the clubs bank account since before the 30th June 2026.

But that is your exact black hole you mentioned in the accounts from 2025... We'll find out in 6 months when the accounts get published if the cash was in the business before the year end.

1 minute ago, DLH said:

I don't think there is much point as it just opens up a whole new raft of questions.

Some of what I heard was rumours, no need for those 7 years on. The one I heard at the time that was then reported on was changing the price mid discussions, I believe it happened a few times. Iles reported on it in the wake of the prospectus for investors I think, but again it is what it is. We survived we move on.

That's more to do with the fact that we're going down the rabbit hole again. You say this;

But that is your exact black hole you mentioned in the accounts from 2025... We'll find out in 6 months when the accounts get published if the cash was in the business before the year end.

I didn't actually say that is wasn't.

I said the shares were issued in July 2026 and I wouldn't have thought £6.1m was resting in the clubs bank account for six or more weeks.

It also begs the question that if the money was in the club before the 30th June, would it not have been better to put it in as equity then rather than this season where there is a maximum £15m share equity that can be invested in one year.

I'll pass on your reply to 'Custard', thanks for responding.

Edited August 11Aug 11 by Sluffy

@Sluffy that’s exactly what happened last year though.

Cash sat in the books as a creditor until shares were issued. Sure it said something about fit and proper tests in the accounts.

They may have had no choice but to do that again…. We’ll find out in 6 months

Hopefully that'll keep him quiet for half a year then.

Although I have noticed several essays appearing in behind the stands 🙁

6 hours ago, Sluffy said:

???

Because it has been notified to Companies House that the Shares were allotted on the 22nd July 2026.

I can't imagine £6.1m has been 'resting' in the clubs bank account since before the 30th June 2026.

Why not?

Similar happened last year as DLH said; probably just be ringfenced if that was the case. Would it therefore count towards SCR?

Edited August 11Aug 11 by jmjhb

8 hours ago, Zico said:

just another unsolved puzzle then

Get involved in a bit of this @Sluffy

Season two coming up soon

7 hours ago, DLH said:

@Sluffy that’s exactly what happened last year though.

Cash sat in the books as a creditor until shares were issued. Sure it said something about fit and proper tests in the accounts.

They may have had no choice but to do that again…. We’ll find out in 6 months

You may well be right but knowing that happened last year wouldn't you think that FV would have bought £6.1m worth of shares before the 30th June to offset this and allow a full £15m investment for 'football' if the £6.1m is as we are told NOT for football?

Of course it depends on whether FV had wanted to (or could at that time) as now FV can only add £9m this season for football if the £6m from EEP is to be spent elsewhere?

5 hours ago, jmjhb said:

Why not?

Similar happened last year as DLH said; probably just be ringfenced if that was the case. Would it therefore count towards SCR?

See my post above to DLH

As far as I understand SCR a club can invest up to £15m into equity in a single year.

EEP has now invested £6.1m THIS financial year even though the money may (or may not) have been received last financial year (ending 30th June 2026).

That means that only another £9m (well £8.9m if you want to be exact) can be invested up to 30th June 2027.

If as we have been told that the £6.1m is NOT for the football side of the club then only the remaining £8.9m (if it is put in) will be available for SCR purposes plus the circa £12m to £14m that is estimated to be in the 'pot' for the start of this season (1st July, 2026)

Don't forget though if we trade at a loss, that trading loss will have to be funded from this money, and provision for having something in the pot for the start of Years 2, 3 and 4 plus the provision for potential losses in those years plus an amount of £4.5m for when the bond matures.

3 hours ago, desperado said:

Get involved in a bit of this @Sluffy

Season two coming up soon

Yes, I'm looking forward to it.

Share issues; works out as almost exactly £10M. A nice round figure, don't you think?

Edited Thursday at 17:465 days by jmjhb

Wonder what Sluffy thinks about it 🤔

5 minutes ago, TroySwoosh said:

Wonder what Sluffy thinks about it 🤔

He's gonna tell you if you're wondering or not. I think he's getting 10,000 steps a day confused with 10,000 words