It don't seem like 34 years ago since the Tongue Moor against Great Lever clash in the Wagon and Horses.

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

I lived in Slaithwaite (or Slawit) for a while around 20 years ago.  If anyone from Marsden dared to venture down for a pint it was like the early scene from American Werewolf in London.  A hush would descend on the pub and there'd be mutterings.  "Wot's 'e dowin' darn 'ere.  E's from Maaarsden".

Proper weird.

Fucking hell, don't get me going about Slawit. Used to pass through all the time when I worked in Huddersfield and came over the tops past the Floating Light. Trying to remember the name of the watering hole I regularly called in at? White Horse? Some beltin' pints of Tetley Bitter around those parts back then.

Slawit is like something out of a dodgy horror movie. Tumbleweed blowing around and expecting an axe murderer to leap out from behind a bush at any time.

Down at Park Works, I was the only Lancastrian and pretty much friends with everybody (even the rabble rousing union rep whose militancy actually helped me financially in the end!) but, by the fuck, they didn't like folk from Holmfirth or Outlane of Slaithwaite etc. Proper weird indeed.

Edited July 22, 20223 yr by bolty58

6 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Fucking hell, don't get me going about Slawit. Used to pass through all the time when I worked in Huddersfield and came over the tops past the Floating Light. Trying to remember the name of the watering hole I regularly called in at? White Horse? Some beltin' pints of Tetley Bitter around those parts back then.

Slawit is like something out of a dodgy horror movie. Tumbleweed blowing around and expecting an axe murderer to leap out from behind a bush at any time.

Down at Park Works, I was the only Lancastrian and pretty much friends with everybody (even the rabble rousing union rep whose militancy actually helped me financially in the end!) but, by the fuck, they didn't like folk from Holmfirth or Outlane of Slaithwaite etc. Proper weird indeed.

Aye.  Even after living there for 3 years I was constantly referred to as "O'er topper".  Like it was a big thing I was from Lancs.  Splitting up with the bird and moving back home was the best thing that ever happened to me.

Re the axe murderer thing, A few years after I'd left the landlord of the Silent Woman pub, who seemed like a nice normal bloke,  stabbed his toddler son to death.  Really grim

Horwich vs Tottington

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Think a lot is born from school stuff, always has been over here anyway. 

Remember areas had little firm names when all that was all the rage in the late 80s early 90s when my brothers were at high-school. ICF (inter cleveleys firm) and Bispham mafia being my favourites

graffiti on walls round Horwich in the 80s was HBI

Horwich Boys International

there was also BBI

Brazley Boys International

dunno the story but as Brazley was one of the notoriously rough parts of Horwich, thinking they may have formed a splinter group to take on the rest of Horwich

neither were owt to do with football I don't think, I guess they came together to form the Horwich Casuals on that front

or maybe the HC were another group entirely

I've no idea to be honest, but there was never any "Horwich Casuals" graffiti anywhere

school wise, there was Joey's and Rivvy

not sure there was a rivalry as such, but Rivvy finished half hour earlier, so you'd often get Rivvy kids who lived on Brazley (across the road from Joeys) coming hanging around the school gates if they fancied a scrap with someone

I think I recall the "Tonge Moor Slashers" at some point.....I might have made that up though

2 hours ago, DazBob said:

Do schools still fight with eachother?

Yeah, on Wii Boxing or something equally shit and non-contact.

When I was a kid it was L/H v Highfield on the M61 bridge

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I think I recall the "Tonge Moor Slashers" at some point.....I might have made that up though

TSB I think

3 hours ago, DazBob said:

Do schools still fight with eachother?

only online 

2 hours ago, Sweep said:

I think I recall the "Tonge Moor Slashers" at some point.....I might have made that up though

yes must be late 80s 

caried calling cards  " slash to gash "

Tongue moor Stanley Boys. I knew a lad who claimed to be the one who kicked off as he was the smallest and the others would then have an excuse to join in. Always thought it was bollox though.

4 hours ago, Sweep said:

Although I bet you heard, second hand, about tremendous fights that had occurred previously (that clearly never happened)

I remember when I was at Turton, hearing about legendary battles they'd had with Sharples and Canon Slade, when all sorts had happened (people hit with shovels and hammers and the such like) which had definitely never actually happened......in my 5 years there, I don't think anything ever happened.

The only one I know about when at Turton was a week after our first XI football team beat Westhoughton HS at Burnden Park in 1978. About a dozen lads from Westhoughton turned up for a bit of afters following a skirmish on Manchester Road.

I was amongst 4 Turton lads who went seeing them to find out what the craic was. We advised them to fuck off sharpish before the rest of the school turned up. Word was already going round the schoolyard that Jeff Boulding (cock of our school) was taking them on alone. They legged it down Hillside off Charlestown Road and disappeared. As you say, it goes down in the annals of the school history but not a punch was thrown.

5 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Who were the names involved Boby? Slightly before my era but most likely remember those involved. 

The main mon in L/H was JJ (not the author 😉) Farnworth, JC. JC married a girl out of my class from L/H.😊 Other names I remember were the Oakley’s. Reds but football didn’t come into it. A mate of mine at the time John  (Hobby) Big Dennis C. Don’t think Pom was old enough then.👍

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The main mon in L/H was JJ (not the author 😉) Farnworth, JC. JC married a girl out of my class from L/H.😊 Other names I remember were the Oakley’s. Reds but football didn’t come into it. A mate of mine at the time John  (Hobby) Big Dennis C. Don’t think Pom was old enough then.👍

Was JJ second name Joyce… heard his name many moons ago, think he emigrated. Adge Oakley came to a sticky end, I was living round the corner when he was executed. Not sure the police tried hard to catch the perpetrator. 

Edited July 22, 20223 yr by Mounts Kipper

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Was JJ second name Joyce… heard his name many moons ago, think he emigrated. 

Correct. Another red. Remember a meeting was held on what was Little Hulton Albion on the border. Came down to JC and JJ. That afternoon in the Lever End the Farnworth lot started singing ‘Oh JJ is dead, oh JJ is dead’ I actually thought he was as I wasn’t at the meeting but he survived. He just got battered. JC used to have a pub in Farnworth, maybe still does.

Whites 1 - Reds 0 Maybe it was about the football.😊

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Fucking hell, don't get me going about Slawit. Used to pass through all the time when I worked in Huddersfield and came over the tops past the Floating Light. Trying to remember the name of the watering hole I regularly called in at? White Horse? Some beltin' pints of Tetley Bitter around those parts back then.

Slawit is like something out of a dodgy horror movie. Tumbleweed blowing around and expecting an axe murderer to leap out from behind a bush at any time.

Down at Park Works, I was the only Lancastrian and pretty much friends with everybody (even the rabble rousing union rep whose militancy actually helped me financially in the end!) but, by the fuck, they didn't like folk from Holmfirth or Outlane of Slaithwaite etc. Proper weird indeed.

When I moved to Yorkshire the quality of the Tetleys compared to Bolton was incredible. 
My dad and his mate came one Saturday to try it and were amazed. They did prefer the 80 shilling though. 

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

Correct. Another red. Remember a meeting was held on what was Little Hulton Albion on the border. Came down to JC and JJ. That afternoon in the Lever End the Farnworth lot started singing ‘Oh JJ is dead, oh JJ is dead’ I actually thought he was as I wasn’t at the meeting but he survived. He just got battered. JC used to have a pub in Farnworth, maybe still does.

Whites 1 - Reds 0 Maybe it was about the football.😊

I was in the lever end when they were singing that song, that’s how I knew the name. 

20 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The main mon in L/H was JJ (not the author 😉) Farnworth, JC. JC married a girl out of my class from L/H.😊 Other names I remember were the Oakley’s. Reds but football didn’t come into it. A mate of mine at the time John  (Hobby) Big Dennis C. Don’t think Pom was old enough then.👍

Dennis Cropper from Athy by chance

46 minutes ago, Ani said:

When I moved to Yorkshire the quality of the Tetleys compared to Bolton was incredible. 
My dad and his mate came one Saturday to try it and were amazed. They did prefer the 80 shilling though. 

The Udders lot I worked with always reckoned that theirs was made with purified River Aire water and our shite with some Cumbrian inferior water.

It was a beltin' pint though. Especially in the Red Lion just down the road from Park Works.

4 hours ago, DazBob said:

Aye.  Even after living there for 3 years I was constantly referred to as "O'er topper".  Like it was a big thing I was from Lancs.  Splitting up with the bird and moving back home was the best thing that ever happened to me.

Re the axe murderer thing, A few years after I'd left the landlord of the Silent Woman pub, who seemed like a nice normal bloke,  stabbed his toddler son to death.  Really grim

Does not surprise me mate. Almost duelling banjo country.

39 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Dennis Cropper from Athy by chance

If that's the same Big Dennis I associate with the L/H mob, cracking lad.

I had to fight as a soldier of fortune for Prestolee in their rucks against Little Lever back in the early 90’s.

Was seeing a girl from Prestolee and the lads in the village didn’t give me much of an option.

Chasing Little Lever lads all over Nob End up to Crommy Lodges.

Little Lever should have won every time, they had the numbers but were soft as shit. Really good at dancing and posturing but when the charge came they were away on their toes like gazelles.

 

1 hour ago, athywhite1958 said:

Dennis Cropper from Athy by chance

Yep.👍

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yep.👍

I was with him and his lad last Wednesday at Colls v Bolton 'B' game, still goes nearly every game

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

If that's the same Big Dennis I associate with the L/H mob, cracking lad.

Aye, he certainly is

4 hours ago, MickyD said:

The only one I know about when at Turton was a week after our first XI football team beat Westhoughton HS at Burnden Park in 1978. About a dozen lads from Westhoughton turned up for a bit of afters following a skirmish on Manchester Road.

I was amongst 4 Turton lads who went seeing them to find out what the craic was. We advised them to fuck off sharpish before the rest of the school turned up. Word was already going round the schoolyard that Jeff Boulding (cock of our school) was taking them on alone. They legged it down Hillside off Charlestown Road and disappeared. As you say, it goes down in the annals of the school history but not a punch was thrown.

I know JB, a handyish lad.

Certainly loved a scrap back in the day.