wakey Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Before reading this thread I was of the view there's no credible sensible argument for bringing back the the death sentence. Then Bolty mentioned John Aldridge, and now I'm not so sure. Quote
London Wanderer Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, royal white said: Well at no point did I say he tried to compare costs. So it can’t be me. You’ve got yourself proper muddled the more this has all gone on 😂 I was talking to Dazbob about the stupidity of your argument that we’d ‘SaVe MiLLiOnS’ …with no attempt to compare with the cost of bringing the death penalty in for this country. Asking people ‘why they want them to stay alive’ has to be up there with the daftest arguments you’ve made on this topic. Just know when to stop 😉 Enjoy the sunshine x Edited May 15 by London Wanderer Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 21 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: You’ve got yourself proper muddled the more this has all gone on 😂 I was talking to Dazbob about the stupidity of your argument that we’d ‘SaVe MiLLiOnS’ …with no attempt to compare with the cost of bringing the death penalty in for this country. Asking people ‘why they want them to stay alive’ has to be up there with the daftest arguments you’ve made on this topic. Just know when to stop 😉 Enjoy the sunshine x “not once has he tried to compare the costs of keeping them, with the cost of killing them.” Your words petal, making things up again, something that’s becoming a bit of a trait of yours. Daz Bob thinks there’s no comparison due to fixed prices. Others have tried to compare using American costs. You as per usual are just confused and all over the shop. Quote
DazBob Posted May 15 Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, royal white said: Daz Bob thinks there’s no comparison due to fixed prices. Hahaha. "Fixed prices". Brilliant Quote
DazBob Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wonder what would happen if someone puta message on x etc, that called for the killing of a British mp, or PM? Moral outrage, and quite possibly a knock on the door. Rightly so. Call for death of an elected US president though, well that's OK. Trump might be a lot of things we don't like, but.. So much for being a democrat. Stop being a drama queen. Nobody is putting an advert out there or asking for him to be killed. I've just said I'd be happy for him to be killed. He's a dangerous man and, IMO, the world would be better off without him. Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wonder what would happen if someone puta message on x etc, that called for the killing of a British mp, or PM? Moral outrage, and quite possibly a knock on the door. Rightly so. Call for death of an elected US president though, well that's OK. Trump might be a lot of things we don't like, but.. So much for being a democrat. Really ate the thoughts of someone who’s not well. Worrying really Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, DazBob said: Hahaha. "Fixed prices". Brilliant My bad “costs” Quote
DazBob Posted May 15 Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, royal white said: My bad “costs” Now, I'm going to be really kind to you and explain how fixed cost absorption works in its most simplistic form. If you have a facility that costs £1,000,000 and you have 20 prisoners, then the fixed cost element of 'cost per prisoner' is £50,000 per prisoner. If one of those prisoners is then killed do you have a saving of £50,000 ? The answer is no, you don't. What you have is a revised 'cost per prisoner' of £52,632 until the killed prisoner is replaced. Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, DazBob said: Now, I'm going to be really kind to you and explain how fixed cost absorption works in its most simplistic form. If you have a facility that costs £1,000,000 and you have 20 prisoners, then the fixed cost element of 'cost per prisoner' is £50,000 per prisoner. If one of those prisoners is then killed do you have a saving of £50,000 ? The answer is no, you don't. What you have is a revised 'cost per prisoner' of £52,632 until the killed prisoner is replaced. Hey don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just going off the government website. Cost per prisoner 52k Would you be happier if I just said I wanted them dead regardless of costs? Or it Frees up a cell for someone who made threats on Facebook. Quote
deeane Koontz Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Cunts who murder children shouldn't have the privilege of breathing. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 15 Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, royal white said: Hey don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just going off the government website. Cost per prisoner 52k Would you be happier if I just said I wanted them dead regardless of costs? Or it Frees up a cell for someone who made threats on Facebook. Well, we finally got there. Quote
DazBob Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, royal white said: Hey don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just going off the government website. Cost per prisoner 52k That's because it's a calculation you moron! Killing a prisoner does not result in saving all of that cost. It really cannot be made any clearer. Now, wishing them dead regardless is fine. 👍 Edited May 15 by DazBob Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, DazBob said: That's because it's a calculation you moron! Killing a prisoner does not result in saving all of that cost. It really cannot be made any clearer. Now, wishing them dead regardless is fine. 👍 Now you will have to get onto NIC and Zico who claim it will be more expensive to keep them on death row. Can you let them know it’s just a calculation. With regards to your Trump outburst, seriously think about seeing someone, it’s not normal and not healthy behaviour. RW - here to help. Not every illness is visible 👍 Quote
Casino Posted May 15 Posted May 15 42 minutes ago, DazBob said: Stop being a drama queen. Nobody is putting an advert out there or asking for him to be killed. I've just said I'd be happy for him to be killed. He's a dangerous man and, IMO, the world would be better off without him. its not like mr nuance missing whats being said Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Casino said: its not like mr nuance missing whats being said There’s nothing to be missed. He wants an elected president killed because he has differing views. It’s weird Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 Anyway recent polls show more people are now in favour of the death penalty. Fingers crossed it might be put into a manifesto. Quote
Casino Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Just now, royal white said: There’s nothing to be missed. He wants an elected president killed because he has differing views. It’s weird he didn't say that and you're not mr nuance please don't flatter yourself Quote
Zico Posted May 15 Posted May 15 27 minutes ago, royal white said: Now you will have to get onto NIC and Zico who claim it will be more expensive to keep them on death row. Can you let them know it’s just a calculation. (Jail Cell + Longer More Complex Court Case + Appeals) > (Jail Cell + Standard Court Case + Appeals) Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 Just now, Zico said: (Jail Cell + Longer More Complex Court Case + Appeals) > Jail Cell 🤦🏻🤦🏻 you’re not giving these cunts appeals, court cases and tax funded solicitors. They’re getting a noose Quote
Zico Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Just now, royal white said: 🤦🏻🤦🏻 you’re not giving these cunts appeals, court cases and tax funded solicitors. They’re getting a noose it's all hypothetical in your mind yes, if the death penalty comes back, you're not giving them that in mine, if it does, they will, because as you say, I "claim it will be more expensive to keep them on death row" this is the difference between the US and Singapore if it came back, I think it would be more like the US spoiler alert it's not coming back Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 15 Posted May 15 21 minutes ago, Casino said: its not like mr nuance missing whats being said How pathetic. If he's happy for him to be killed, then I'm sure the police would be happy to speak to him, given that they speak to people for criticising schools etc. Whichever ever way you want to dress it, it's pathetic and infantile to make such a comment. If someone went did the same about Starmer, he and you, would be shouting from the rooftops. Quote
little whitt Posted May 15 Posted May 15 15 hours ago, DazBob said: I've no idea. I'd need to see what the variable costs were per prisoner and also what reductions in the fixed costs would be. I can certainly say we not be going into 7 figures. I'm not the one who said we'd save millions. About 65k a year per Prisoner Quote
London Wanderer Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 hour ago, DazBob said: Hahaha. "Fixed prices". Brilliant 😂 Quote
royal white Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, little whitt said: About 65k a year per Prisoner Oh LW, you’re going to get told off now by the WW poorly guy. Quote
wanderer1984 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 hour ago, royal white said: With regards to your Trump outburst, seriously think about seeing someone, it’s not normal and not healthy behaviour. It's a cult Quote
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