6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Read earlier that around 40% of those arrested ‘protecting our girls’ last summer had previous for domestic abuse. 

Just concerned patriots

4 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Everyone has a right to free care from a GP.

 

If you can actually manage to see one is a whole different thing. 

Is it just me that doesn't have a problem getting an appointment with their GP? The reason you might need to wait a little while is because GPs rightly need to see the people that require urgent on the day treatment. 

The vase majority of GP appointments needed by patients are routine and can wait a couple of days or even weeks. If you need to be seen on the day for something urgent - then you'll be seen.

Additionally - GPs are contracted to ensure that all children (under the age of 12 I think) are seen on the same day. 

Final point - the reason GPs will see someone without documentation is a pragmatic one. Basically - if there's an illegal immigrant and they need a GP appointment - it's much cheaper than waiting till things really go belly up and they end up needing hospital treatment. 

Pretty sensible if you put your thinking cap on! 👍

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Read earlier that around 40% of those arrested ‘protecting our girls’ last summer had previous for domestic abuse. 

Careful - it wasn't an article by Alistair Campbell was it? They'll be in your back! 😁

12 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Is it just me that doesn't have a problem getting an appointment with their GP? The reason you might need to wait a little while is because GPs rightly need to see the people that require urgent on the day treatment. 

The vase majority of GP appointments needed by patients are routine and can wait a couple of days or even weeks. If you need to be seen on the day for something urgent - then you'll be seen.

Additionally - GPs are contracted to ensure that all children (under the age of 12 I think) are seen on the same day. 

Final point - the reason GPs will see someone without documentation is a pragmatic one. Basically - if there's an illegal immigrant and they need a GP appointment - it's much cheaper than waiting till things really go belly up and they end up needing hospital treatment. 

Pretty sensible if you put your thinking cap on! 👍

Piece of piss for me. Make an appointment online, get seen in a couple of days

11 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Is it just me that doesn't have a problem getting an appointment with their GP? The reason you might need to wait a little while is because GPs rightly need to see the people that require urgent on the day treatment. 

The vase majority of GP appointments needed by patients are routine and can wait a couple of days or even weeks. If you need to be seen on the day for something urgent - then you'll be seen.

Additionally - GPs are contracted to ensure that all children (under the age of 12 I think) are seen on the same day. 

Final point - the reason GPs will see someone without documentation is a pragmatic one. Basically - if there's an illegal immigrant and they need a GP appointment - it's much cheaper than waiting till things really go belly up and they end up needing hospital treatment. 

Pretty sensible if you put your thinking cap on! 👍

I'll play.. 

Wife's got complex medical needs. I mean very complex... 

Our GP practice employs both Health Care assistants, and Pharmacists (Locum) who tell people they are doctors. 

Few months ago she went to see the locum doctor who told her to "take more puffs on your inhaler".. She rightly questioned it to get a short reply along the lines of "no you are wrong, I'm right".. She asked the BART team for a second opinion and had she done as the "doctor" stated, would now very likely be dead. 

They have so far managed to make mistakes on my daughters referral twice, she's been 3 times and still has not seen a doctor, the one who saw her last time asked if she was pregnant and then suggested that she take a pregnancy test having asked her 5 times.. (she's 15)

The other practice that share the building are in special measures with the exact same issues..

I've seen mine once in 5 years, when I lost my hearing, I was in there about 2 minutes at most, so it's certainly NOT just seeing urgent patients. That referal never happened. 

I've put in 2 prescription requests in the last month, both have been ignored. 

So i'm guessing you're the lucky one, maybe we're the unlucky ones. 

 

 

 

Just now, only1swanny said:

I'll play.. 

Wife's got complex medical needs. I mean very complex... 

Our GP practice employs both Health Care assistants, and Pharmacists (Locum) who tell people they are doctors. 

Few months ago she went to see the locum doctor who told her to "take more puffs on your inhaler".. She rightly questioned it to get a short reply along the lines of "no you are wrong, I'm right".. She asked the BART team for a second opinion and had she done as the "doctor" stated, would now very likely be dead. 

They have so far managed to make mistakes on my daughters referral twice, she's been 3 times and still has not seen a doctor, the one who saw her last time asked if she was pregnant and then suggested that she take a pregnancy test having asked her 5 times.. (she's 15)

The other practice that share the building are in special measures with the exact same issues..

I've seen mine once in 5 years, when I lost my hearing, I was in there about 2 minutes at most, so it's certainly NOT just seeing urgent patients. That referal never happened. 

I've put in 2 prescription requests in the last month, both have been ignored. 

So i'm guessing you're the lucky one, maybe we're the unlucky ones. 

 

 

 

Our of interest - which GP are you with?

9 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

I'll play.. 

Wife's got complex medical needs. I mean very complex... 

Our GP practice employs both Health Care assistants, and Pharmacists (Locum) who tell people they are doctors. 

Few months ago she went to see the locum doctor who told her to "take more puffs on your inhaler".. She rightly questioned it to get a short reply along the lines of "no you are wrong, I'm right".. She asked the BART team for a second opinion and had she done as the "doctor" stated, would now very likely be dead. 

They have so far managed to make mistakes on my daughters referral twice, she's been 3 times and still has not seen a doctor, the one who saw her last time asked if she was pregnant and then suggested that she take a pregnancy test having asked her 5 times.. (she's 15)

The other practice that share the building are in special measures with the exact same issues..

I've seen mine once in 5 years, when I lost my hearing, I was in there about 2 minutes at most, so it's certainly NOT just seeing urgent patients. That referal never happened. 

I've put in 2 prescription requests in the last month, both have been ignored. 

So i'm guessing you're the lucky one, maybe we're the unlucky ones. 

 

 

 

Mate - I's be looking for a new GP as soon as possible if that's the case. What you are describing is horrific. 

And professionally I'd be very interested in learning more about the pharmacist who claimed to be a Doctor. 

I've PMd you anyway so we can try and sort it out on there instead. 

It sounds a like a total shit show - and I'm sorry you've all had to got through that. 

2 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Saw numbers as high as 68% but there's a fair number of em.

The nearly 70% was in one area, Bristol I think. Found a link. 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/two-thirds-those-arrested-bristol-10435411

The 40% plus figure was from The Guardian 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse

 

3 hours ago, mickbrown said:

Piece of piss for me. Make an appointment online, get seen in a couple of days

Aye, and me. Repeat prescriptions done online, ready the same day, contact me for the regular checkups- had two this year - bloods and general. Both in and out in half an hour. Ive had to see them for something once and was seen the day after I contacted after having a phone call consultation.

Partner has had the same experience - can't fault it.

Edited August 27, 2025Aug 27 by Not in Crawley

4 hours ago, mickbrown said:

Piece of piss for me. Make an appointment online, get seen in a couple of days

Same here

There's been a 24.5% increase in GP appointments in 2025 compared to before COVID. So things are getting considerably better for patients - not worse. 

This isn't a dog at swanny by the way - there's 49 GP Practices in Bolton and like all private businesses - they vary a lot in terms of quality......

3 hours ago, Ani said:

The nearly 70% was in one area, Bristol I think. Found a link. 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/two-thirds-those-arrested-bristol-10435411

The 40% plus figure was from The Guardian 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse

 

some folk need a reason to be angry

if it's their other half, it's immigrants

not sure you can blame labour, or the tories, for the domestic abuse mind

5 hours ago, kent_white said:

Is it just me that doesn't have a problem getting an appointment with their GP? The reason you might need to wait a little while is because GPs rightly need to see the people that require urgent on the day treatment. 

The vase majority of GP appointments needed by patients are routine and can wait a couple of days or even weeks. If you need to be seen on the day for something urgent - then you'll be seen.

Additionally - GPs are contracted to ensure that all children (under the age of 12 I think) are seen on the same day. 

Final point - the reason GPs will see someone without documentation is a pragmatic one. Basically - if there's an illegal immigrant and they need a GP appointment - it's much cheaper than waiting till things really go belly up and they end up needing hospital treatment. 

Pretty sensible if you put your thinking cap on! 👍

 

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Aye, and me. Repeat prescriptions done online, ready the same day, contact me for the regular checkups- had two this year - bloods and general. Both in and out in half an hour. Ive had to see them for something once and was seen the day after I contacted after having a phone call consultation.

Partner has had the same experience - can't fault it.

 

58 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Same here

every time me or my other half have needed to see our gp, we fill in the form online describing symptons, and every time get seen the same day

maybe not at the alloted time, but within 30 minutes of it

email for a repeat prescription, it's ready in 2 or 3 days

know a GP

she says her biggest issue is most folk don't come to see her till it's "got really bad"" or it's "too late"

they don't leave it because they don't think they'll get seen straight away, but that they leave it till they get "really bad" with whatever they are suffering from, because they just dismiss it as being an issue

on the other hand

good mate of mine

went to 2 gps complaining of this "wart" growing on his nose and got told it was nothing to worry about and just one of them things

went private and found out it was cancerous, ended up with a skin graft and all that to get it sorted

in my experience getting seen isn't a problem, but getting the treatment you need is

Like most things that are 'free' a minority spoil it for the majority

90% of the appointments, 5% of the list

Yeah, some have extra needs but plenty just want a chat

But if you dont insist on seeing a particular doctor and you dont need a home visit or picking up and dropping off, you will generally get an appointment fairly quick

Just seen this about this Scottish girl on TikTok, 

The story is ... her 12 year old sister was threatened by a migrant bloke (can tell from the video he's not local), but lots of people applauding her for brandishing a knife and an axe "for protection from sexual abuse"

Worrying that it's happened, worrying that people are congratulating her. 

Apparently she's been arrested. 

Police Scotland have confirmed it was a Bulgarian couple who filmed her behaviour, and there is no evidence of Sexual abuse. 

8 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Saw numbers as high as 68% but there's a fair number of em.

 On a par with Trump is a paedo.

Are you lot on spice FFS?

5 hours ago, Ani said:

The nearly 70% was in one area, Bristol I think. Found a link. 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/two-thirds-those-arrested-bristol-10435411

The 40% plus figure was from The Guardian 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse

 

Bristol and The Guardian.

May as well have been Liverpool and Socialist Worker.

Note - I just managed to get 'Liverpool' and 'Worker' into the same sentence.

7 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Bristol and The Guardian.

May as well have been Liverpool and Socialist Worker.

Note - I just managed to get 'Liverpool' and 'Worker' into the same sentence.

Are you saying that Somerset Police made the  numbers up after a freedom for information request ? 
Or that you would expect that many people with domestic abuse convictions because it was Bristol ? 

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Are you saying that Somerset Police made the  numbers up after a freedom for information request ? 
Or that you would expect that many people with domestic abuse convictions because it was Bristol ? 

No.

4 hours ago, bolty58 said:

No.

Ok so if you are not saying the numbers were made up what were you saying ? 

15 hours ago, kent_white said:

Is it just me that doesn't have a problem getting an appointment with their GP? The reason you might need to wait a little while is because GPs rightly need to see the people that require urgent on the day treatment. 

The vase majority of GP appointments needed by patients are routine and can wait a couple of days or even weeks. If you need to be seen on the day for something urgent - then you'll be seen.

Additionally - GPs are contracted to ensure that all children (under the age of 12 I think) are seen on the same day. 

Final point - the reason GPs will see someone without documentation is a pragmatic one. Basically - if there's an illegal immigrant and they need a GP appointment - it's much cheaper than waiting till things really go belly up and they end up needing hospital treatment. 

Pretty sensible if you put your thinking cap on! 👍

In general, that is the case with mine.

I prefer the appointments system, than all and sundry turning up of a morning, and making the waiting area a super-spreader event.

Nevertheless, the appointment system is still seeing increasing times for appointment availability. 

Could get one within a week at one time.

Now typically three weeks.

Same number of doctors for the last couple of years (still more than when appointment system was introduced), but also with a pharmacist etc.

This can only be because of increasing demand. 

Your point about undocumented people, whist making sense financially, is nevertheless terrible optics, and creates ill feeling. A lesser of two evils situation, but a situation that is still an "evil".

 

14 hours ago, Ani said:

The nearly 70% was in one area, Bristol I think. Found a link. 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/two-thirds-those-arrested-bristol-10435411

The 40% plus figure was from The Guardian 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse

 

It's not a great surprise really. 

I'd suggest that most of the rioters, by dent of their willingness to take part in violence, already have convictions for it.

For some, it's just an opportunity for kick off.

All that said, without the event in the first place, there is no opportunity. 

23 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

In general, that is the case with mine.

I prefer the appointments system, than all and sundry turning up of a morning, and making the waiting area a super-spreader event.

Nevertheless, the appointment system is still seeing increasing times for appointment availability. 

Could get one within a week at one time.

Now typically three weeks.

Same number of doctors for the last couple of years (still more than when appointment system was introduced), but also with a pharmacist etc.

This can only be because of increasing demand. 

Your point about undocumented people, whist making sense financially, is nevertheless terrible optics, and creates ill feeling. A lesser of two evils situation, but a situation that is still an "evil".

 

Did you really call a doctor looking after sick people evil ?

And a Hospital looking after sick people even eviler ?

Wowsers.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's not a great surprise really. 

I'd suggest that most of the rioters, by dent of their willingness to take part in violence, already have convictions for it.

For some, it's just an opportunity for kick off.

All that said, without the event in the first place, there is no opportunity. 

So you are not surprised that in Bristol 70% of concerned citizens have already been involved in domestic violence ?

The ‘event’ you mention that led to the violence do you mean the Southport attack or the lies spread on social media that he was was a Muslim, just arrived on a boat and was known to MI5 ? And why is that referred to as an ‘opportunity’ ? 
 

So people who referred to them as mindless thugs were right ? 
 

Wonder what  opportunity cropped up in the past that they needed to batter then wives and kids ? 

1 hour ago, Ani said:

So you are not surprised that in Bristol 70% of concerned citizens have already been involved in domestic violence ?

The ‘event’ you mention that led to the violence do you mean the Southport attack or the lies spread on social media that he was was a Muslim, just arrived on a boat and was known to MI5 ? And why is that referred to as an ‘opportunity’ ? 
 

So people who referred to them as mindless thugs were right ? 
 

Wonder what  opportunity cropped up in the past that they needed to batter then wives and kids ? 

No,  I'm not surprised that some folk convicted of violence have a previous record for it.

You seem to be somewhat angry over that.

Why?

There are some parallels with football violence- the game represented the opportunity for those so inclined to revel in the camaraderie, and get a buzz from it.

Although not all, many of those people have/had a similar history.

The violence was clearly mindless thuggery- again, I don't get your clear ire.

No one would say it wasn't.

Whatever the cause of the riots were, they were still riots. Nothing difficult to grasp there.