6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Such a short crossing too, by the time you've scrambled someone to stop them they've long gone.

Yep, which is why comparison to the boats going to Australia isn't really relevant, yet it's the one that's always brought up. 

Also, apparently if our Navy, decides to push back into French waters, and enters their waters, uninvited, it can technically be classed as an act of war. 🙂 - obviously we wouldn't start a war, and neither would the French, but I think it shows that pushing back may not be as straightforward as some would have you believe

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2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Yep, which is why comparison to the boats going to Australia isn't really relevant, yet it's the one that's always brought up. 

Also, apparently if our Navy, decides to push back into French waters, and enters their waters, uninvited, it can technically be classed as an act of war. 🙂 - obviously we wouldn't start a war, and neither world the French, but I think it shows that pushing back may not be as straightforward as some would have you believe

It’s only ever Bolty who brings that up, and it’s total fucking nonsense.

Hes playing you like a fiddle, Sonny.

If it was a bigger stretch of water, you would also need a greater number of ariel assets scanning the sea.

Shipping is also used as a means of notifying authorities of the presence of migrant boats.

In some cases it is a legal requirement, though I don't know the details.

It follows therefore, that the more ships there are, the more the chance of them being reported.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Yep, which is why comparison to the boats going to Australia isn't really relevant, yet it's the one that's always brought up. 

Also, apparently if our Navy, decides to push back into French waters, and enters their waters, uninvited, it can technically be classed as an act of war. 🙂 - obviously we wouldn't start a war, and neither world the French, but I think it shows that pushing back may not be as straightforward as some would have you believe

Depends if someone has the balls to do it.

France uses its vessels to escort the boats into our waters, so what is the difference?

French officials have openly said they want the UK to make it more difficult to get in, to act as a deterrent, so they would be happy with this action. Wouldn't they?

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s only ever Bolty who brings that up, and it’s total fucking nonsense.

Hes playing you like a fiddle, Sonny.

It's not only Bolty. Another moron called CumbrianWhite brought it up a few days ago.

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If it was a bigger stretch of water, you would also need a greater number of ariel assets scanning the sea.

Shipping is also used as a means of notifying authorities of the presence of migrant boats.

In some cases it is a legal requirement, though I don't know the details.

It follows therefore, that the more ships there are, the more the chance of them being reported.

The Disney mermaid, or the popular washing detergent?

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21 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Depends if someone has the balls to do it.

France uses its vessels to escort the boats into our waters, so what is the difference?

French officials have openly said they want the UK to make it more difficult to get in, to act as a deterrent, so they would be happy with this action. Wouldn't they?

The boats they’re escorting want to come into our waters. Totally different doing it the other way round 

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

The boats they’re escorting want to come into our waters. Totally different doing it the other way round 

What would the French do about it though, if we had naval assets at the line saying "non"?

The traffickers are criminals, and the people are complicit by utilising them.

Therefor illegal. 

Does that make the French also complicit for the actions?

Just a quick look also says that the French also have a duty to pick up these people as they're in overloaded boats.

All this law, like most international stuff, is agreed to by participants, but can be withdrawn from equally. Just like the ECHR.

Ultimately, it comes down to political will.

At the moment, there isn't sufficient in this country.

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

What would the French do about it though, if we had naval assets at the line saying "non"?

The traffickers are criminals, and the people are complicit by utilising them.

Therefor illegal. 

Does that make the French also complicit for the actions?

Just a quick look also says that the French also have a duty to pick up these people as they're in overloaded boats.

All this law, like most international stuff, is agreed to by participants, but can be withdrawn from equally. Just like the ECHR.

Ultimately, it comes down to political will.

At the moment, there isn't sufficient in this country.

The guy steering the dingy doesn’t want to go to France though, nor his passengers. They just simply turn off their engine. 

 

21 minutes ago, royal white said:

The guy steering the dingy doesn’t want to go to France though, nor his passengers. They just simply turn off their engine. 

Yep, and they'll just start chucking folk overboard. Like it or not, we'll then rescue them, and bring them to England. 

Turning them back will never work, we have to, and I don't know how, make them not want to come here in the first place

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If it was a bigger stretch of water, you would also need a greater number of ariel assets scanning the sea.

Shipping is also used as a means of notifying authorities of the presence of migrant boats.

In some cases it is a legal requirement, though I don't know the details.

It follows therefore, that the more ships there are, the more the chance of them being reported.

 

 

Provided they can see them, under the cover of darkness and being so small, it's maybe not so easy. Also, as pointed out above, it's such a short stretch of water, even if reported, will we actually be able to scramble a frigate and locate them before they're happily well into UK waters? 

For me, the whole "turn them back" narrative is bollocks, it won't work, other maybe than in one or two cases. 

Either we need to stop them leaving, which we can't seem to do, or we make sure that when they get here it's not as an attractive prospect to them, as maybe it currently seems to be. 

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13 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Yep, and they'll just start chucking folk overboard. Like it or not, we'll then rescue them, and bring them to England. 

Turning them back will never work, we have to, and I don't know how, make them not want to come here in the first place

Comes back to why we get involved in issues around the world, if people's homes are fucked they're going to find ways to move elsewhere for a better life.

That said we don't have a great record at making things better

I'd love to see how it would play out diplomatically if we started returning folk to France. It will never happen and Farage knows this also.

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I'd love to see how it would play out diplomatically if we started returning folk to France. It will never happen and Farage knows this also.

We could before Brexit, under the EU's Dublin III Regulation. 🤷‍♂️

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11 minutes ago, Cheese said:

We could before Brexit, under the EU's Dublin III Regulation. 🤷‍♂️

Through a long drawn out process, not in the middle of the sea

The convention that is barely used.

The one that France could use to send numerous back out of their country.

That they don't.

turning them back means going back to France, who doesn't want them either, so what should France do, let them come to us, or push them back into Belgium / Germany / Italy / Spain

then what if they don't want them, etc

Europe needs to come together and come up with a plan for accomodating them in some way

because they are going to keep on coming, saying you can't come here is one thing, stopping them even trying is another

and with all due respect, protests like yesterday aren't going to help resolve this europe wide issue, they just serve to show that no one wants to deal with immigrants

He’s just a knob ain’t he. No doubt the usuals will be along saying “look at the Twitter account” 

 

 

Expect this thick cunt will be getting a knock on his door tomorrow morning.

 

35 minutes ago, royal white said:

He’s just a knob ain’t he. No doubt the usuals will be along saying “look at the Twitter account” 

 

 

Free speech

Just round all these gobshites up, put them in a field and...

Kenny Everett was a visionary. 

9 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Free speech

Exactly. Like then man above. Weirdly though cheese thinks he should be arrested 

45 minutes ago, royal white said:

He’s just a knob ain’t he. No doubt the usuals will be along saying “look at the Twitter account” 

 

 

What is an anti Britain extremist?

This and is idf chant have got fuck all to do with Britain

And that's what they're known for

All together now. Land of hope and glory……..