23 minutes ago, kent_white said:

He regularly talks about 'woke capitulation' bangs on about his opposition to COVID vaccines, and what he refers to as 'gender mayhem'. I'd be very surprised if other members of the group don't have similar leanings. 

Two of the three I agree with. Still wouldn't stop me wanting them to disappear and quickly. The last thing we need is more religious nutjobs (or, in their case, pretending to be).

On top of that, how would we incapable of movement types survive without access to Bonnie Blue, Cory Chase and Dolly Busters offerings?

34 minutes ago, kent_white said:

After a little bit more digging this morning.

One of the group's leaders is Dominic Muir, a Tommy Robinson supporter who attended the recent marches in London carrying a 10 foot cross. He regularly talks about 'woke capitulation' bangs on about his opposition to COVID vaccines, and what he refers to as 'gender mayhem'. I'd be very surprised if other members of the group don't have similar leanings. 

So they do appear to at least have links with the far right. Particularly if you're of the belief (as I am) that that's where Tommy Robinson site on the political spectrum. 

Yes, there will be overlaps because they believe similar things on some issues

Evangelicals of this type have been around for decades

A lot of the African churches are like this too

But it's not the far-right hijacking the church like you think it is

4 hours ago, Bertie said:

Don’t get this. Agree with Starmer. Why have a pro-Palestinian march today of all days, 2 years on? Really insensitive and won’t do their cause any good whatsoever. I’m all for recognising Palestine and the two-state solution as the only hope in hell of achieving any sort of long-term peace, but show some respect for gods sake 🤦‍♂️.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1wgx5v90vyo

Why would you think they concern themselves about sensitivity?

22 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Yes, there will be overlaps because they believe similar things on some issues

Evangelicals of this type have been around for decades

A lot of the African churches are like this too

But it's not the far-right hijacking the church like you think it is

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I think it's becoming increasingly commonplace. I'm not talking about the CofE necessarily. I'm more taking about an uneasy association with religion and far right groups. And I think it's dangerous. 

1 hour ago, deeane Koontz said:

Done alreet..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9r5m74de8o

Tory donor him as well.

No wonder they poured in under their stewardship.

Too many vested interests for it to stop.

aye, lets not forget its right at the top of jenricks CV

 

'we have opened more hotels'

10 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Tory donor him as well.

No wonder they poured in under their stewardship.

Too many vested interests for it to stop.

You're joking?! 😲 I never would have guessed!

The daftest thing of all is that none of this problem is Kier Starmers fault.

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

The daftest thing of all is that none of this problem is Kier Starmers fault.

It is. Apparently. But nobody can explain how. Or why they weren't raising flags and calling for heads to roll 3 years ago.

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Why would you think they concern themselves about sensitivity?

Hope more than think. Prob because I’m naive and believe that ultimately it’s in the interest of both sides to stop killing each other 🤷‍♂️…..I know 🙄.

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2 hours ago, kent_white said:

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I think it's becoming increasingly commonplace. I'm not talking about the CofE necessarily. I'm more taking about an uneasy association with religion and far right groups. And I think it's dangerous. 

Happy for all religions to be outlawed if you could pull it off mate.

The world would be a far better place.

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

The daftest thing of all is that none of this problem is Kier Starmers fault.

I think the faults are far wider ranging than this one issue but you knew that.

He's fucked. We all know it.

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

It is. Apparently. But nobody can explain how. Or why they weren't raising flags and calling for heads to roll 3 years ago.

Because the Right of politics was in charge back then so the rabble rousers behind the scenes didn't have an easy target to get folk foaming at the mouth.

Now centrists are in charge it's easy to paint them as left wing wokies from the social media engagement farms in Russia and India. Bung a few quid the way of SYL, Ant Middleton, Reform PLC etc and sit back and watch the chaos.

 

 

1 minute ago, burnden said:

 

 

there's a plot twist

a muslim hating non muslim asian?

a self loathing muslim?

or a muslim hoping to pin it on a jew?

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

there's a plot twist

a muslim hating non muslim asian?

a self loathing muslim?

or a muslim hoping to pin it on a jew?

False flag.

It was Ronnie al-Pickering

40 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Because the Right of politics was in charge back then so the rabble rousers behind the scenes didn't have an easy target to get folk foaming at the mouth.

Now centrists are in charge it's easy to paint them as left wing wokies from the social media engagement farms in Russia and India. Bung a few quid the way of SYL, Ant Middleton, Reform PLC etc and sit back and watch the chaos.

 'Centrists'. Give over FFS.

1 hour ago, burnden said:

 

 

For what it's worth, this is a different attacks to the one at Peace haven this weekend

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

For what it's worth, this is a different attacks to the one at Peace haven this weekend

Apologies i had assumed same place.  

4 hours ago, Zico said:

there's a plot twist

a muslim hating non muslim asian?

a self loathing muslim?

or a muslim hoping to pin it on a jew?

the arson attack in the news the other day was East Sussex, this is Northamptonshire police.

Edit: I see it’s already been mentioned above 

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42 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

the arson attack in the news the other day was East Sussex, this is Northamptonshire police.

Edit: I see it’s already been mentioned above 

doesn't matter really

still raises the same questions for me

55 minutes ago, Zico said:

doesn't matter really

still raises the same questions for me

Could be a Sunni Vs Shi'ite issue, personal vendetta or just a nutter. Been plenty of honkeys over the years set fire to churches.

My missus works doing viewings for an Estate Agent. Tomorrow she is showing a house on an estate on the Leeds/Bradford border. She has a page of instructions about how the house has to be made secure when she leaves. The family who lived there for ten years have been forced to leave as the house keeps getting attacked. They say the attacks are because some people on the estate do not want foreigners living there.

The family are Polish. 

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, gonzo said:

If only human brains were apples and could be easily tested for their toxicity, then that would be a great analogy.

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