6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Fueled by the internet linking up all the pubs mad bastard's. Back in the day Mental Brian in the Hare and Hounds would chat shit and folk would nod and smile and pretty much ignore him now all the Mental Brian's from every pub can connect and convince each other that their mental bollocks is based in reality. Egged on by grifters and foreign based bots so you end up with folk in England flags taking the knee in police stations wearing body cams for their 'auditor' internet profiles.

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Fueled by the internet linking up all the pubs mad bastard's. Back in the day Mental Brian in the Hare and Hounds would chat shit and folk would nod and smile and pretty much ignore him now all the Mental Brian's from every pub can connect and convince each other that their mental bollocks is based in reality. Egged on by grifters and foreign based bots so you end up with folk in England flags taking the knee in police stations wearing body cams for their 'auditor' internet profiles.

Totally agreed.

Social media has given voice to folk who previously were not given a platform.

Complete shite

12 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Totally agreed.

Social media has given voice to folk who previously were not given a platform.

Complete shite

Who decides who should and shouldn't be given a platform?

Lots and lots of nastiness on it, but leave those bits alone.

However, at what point is the "moral outrage" simply a tool to be used by those who don't want their narrative challenging?

The very essence of why the country is where it is currently.

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Who decides who should and shouldn't be given a platform?

Lots and lots of nastiness on it, but leave those bits alone.

However, at what point is the "moral outrage" simply a tool to be used by those who don't want their narrative challenging?

The very essence of why the country is where it is currently.

The narrative from the daft fucker who used to come out with shite in the Hare and Hounds used to go no further.

But put his spoutings onto the world wide web...

And this is happening globally, so many people shouting out yet saying nothing

10 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Totally agreed.

Social media has given voice to folk who previously were not given a platform.

Complete shite

You do realise that would include yourself as well?

It's like everything really, the vast majority are sensible and well behaved but there is always a minority that spoils things for everyone.

The problem with social media is not providing a platform for everyone but rather people believe any old shit they see wanting it to be true and being too stupid or lazy to check out if it real is or just lies (or half truths).

Then they get 'fed' more and more by the algorithms that 'drive' social media, of the stuff they 'like' until all they are 'fed' that exclusively.

They end up in...

An echo chamber: is an environment—such as a social media feed, online community, or specific social group—where individuals are primarily exposed to opinions, beliefs, and information that reinforce their own, while opposing views are minimized, ignored, or excluded.

...and are surrounded on all sides with...

Confirmation bias: is the psychological tendency to favour, seek out, and interpret information that aligns with your existing beliefs, while ignoring or discrediting contradictory evidence. It acts as a mental filter, shaping how you acquire, interpret, and remember information.

The end result being people are in effect being 'brainwashed'., manipulated, played, controlled - call it whatever you will - but the end result is that people just see one side of the story and reject out of hand anything different to their now set in stone belief's.

Brainwashing: is the systematic manipulation of a person's thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes.

Its Primary Characteristics

• Isolation: Cutting a person off from former associates, independent information, and reality checks. (basically what Confirmation bias is all about).

• Repetition: The relentless reinforcement of a specific doctrine. (basically echo chambers do).

My advice if anyone is interested is basically disbelieve anything you read on social media until you check its authenticity for yourself first.

(that btw includes everything I say too).

Sluffy you’re giving me a migraine mate

And I thought my posts could get long. We don’t need half the Oxford dictionary included with every post.

Edited Wednesday at 19:533 days by London Wanderer

1 minute ago, Sluffy said:

You do realise that would include yourself as well?

It's like everything really, the vast majority are sensible and well behaved but there is always a minority that spoils things for everyone.

The problem with social media is not providing a platform for everyone but rather people believe any old shit they see wanting it to be true and being too stupid or lazy to check out if it real is or just lies (or half truths).

Then they get 'fed' more and more by the algorithms that 'drive' social media, of the stuff they 'like' until all they are 'fed' that exclusively.

They end up in...

An echo chamber: is an environment—such as a social media feed, online community, or specific social group—where individuals are primarily exposed to opinions, beliefs, and information that reinforce their own, while opposing views are minimized, ignored, or excluded.

...and are surrounded on all sides with...

Confirmation bias: is the psychological tendency to favour, seek out, and interpret information that aligns with your existing beliefs, while ignoring or discrediting contradictory evidence. It acts as a mental filter, shaping how you acquire, interpret, and remember information.

The end result being people are in effect being 'brainwashed'., manipulated, played, controlled - call it whatever you will - but the end result is that people just see one side of the story and reject out of hand anything different to their now set in stone belief's.

Brainwashing: is the systematic manipulation of a person's thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes.

Its Primary Characteristics

• Isolation: Cutting a person off from former associates, independent information, and reality checks. (basically what Confirmation bias is all about).

• Repetition: The relentless reinforcement of a specific doctrine. (basically echo chambers do).

My advice if anyone is interested is basically disbelieve anything you read on social media until you check its authenticity for yourself first.

(that btw includes everything I say too).

This is why I stilĺ use a dumb-phone, do not have an x or whatsapp account, avoid you tube and facebook and still read newspapers (fyi I alternate between the Times and Guardian)... in my opinion rolling news encourages the traits you refer to, I prefer to mull things over. I also subscribe to several established printed publications.

I have come to enjoy this site as it lets me bounce ideas off other folk while offering my opinion on others' thoughts... and we can still talk that about footie at the end of the day.

16 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Sluffy you’re giving me a migraine mate

And I thought my posts could get long. We don’t need half the Oxford dictionary included with every post.

Well in this instance I believe it was essential to show as simply as I know how to, how manipulation of people via social media happens.

I know that you are aware of "confirmation bias" and "echo chambers" but most people aren't and would never dream to bother themselves to find out about such things - that's why I put it up there for everyone to read.

I'm sorry if I gave you a migraine - I don't think I did though really did I(?) - which if I didn't, kind of underlies my other point about not believing everything that is said on social media.

Did I waste my time posting what I did in my previous post, maybe I did, but if it caused just one person to stop and think, then I would say it was all worth it..

Wouldn't you?

2 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

Well in this instance I believe it was essential to show as simply as I know how to, how manipulation of people via social media happens.

I know that you are aware of "confirmation bias" and "echo chambers" but most people aren't and would never dream to bother themselves to find out about such things - that's why I put it up there for everyone to read.

I'm sorry if I gave you a migraine - I don't think I did though really did I(?) - which if I didn't, kind of underlies my other point about not believing everything that is said on social media.

Did I waste my time posting what I did in my previous post, maybe I did, but if it caused just one person to stop and think, then I would say it was all worth it..

Wouldn't you?

I agree with everything you posted but I think you can and possibly should also see when someone is telling a little joke and treat it as such.

There's plenty on here never mind across the rest of the UK and world, who didn't and still don't understand how social media works and how the algorithms are designed to "feed" you what you want to see and hear.

Add in that lunatic Musk with X and it shows how dangerous it can get. That is why good honest journalism is still very much needed today.

2 hours ago, Dimron said:

Reform and Restore are both corrupt.

Harbone and Delo are both in for 25mill, no wonder Nidge is proposing a reduction in capital gains tax on crypto.

Then Musk is into Lowe for £72k and about to increase... yet legislation foĺlowing the recent Rycroft Review has excluded donations from social media platforms.

All incompetent and dishonest in my opinion and a massive enema is needed.

As opposed to the whiter than white Labour and Conservative parties I presume....I had best not forget the Greens as i wouldnt wish to appear biased in any way.

40 minutes ago, Dimron said:

This is why I stilĺ use a dumb-phone, do not have an x or whatsapp account, avoid you tube and facebook and still read newspapers (fyi I alternate between the Times and Guardian)... in my opinion rolling news encourages the traits you refer to, I prefer to mull things over. I also subscribe to several established printed publications.

I have come to enjoy this site as it lets me bounce ideas off other folk while offering my opinion on others' thoughts... and we can still talk that about footie at the end of the day.

Well good for you, I'm pleased that you found a way that works for you.

Unfortunately most people these days live on their phones and clearly those in power around the world wants to control all the media we view, such as social media, Main Stream Media, TV, streaming, cable and everything else we view on,

The state is the main actor in autocratic countries such as Russia, China, Iran, and in the west by the very, very wealthy - think Musk with Twitter, Vance threating us to stop legislating against social media in respect of AI child pornography and such like - why because it effect the billionaire owners bottom lines.

An American friend of mine recently sent me this in respect of Trumps virtual take over of the control of US network broadcasting, streaming and the The Federal Communications Agency (FCC) - the government regulator.

First, blame the American television network, ABC (Disney), for capitulating and paying him off on a frivolous lawsuit. Then, the cowardly network, CBS, paid off for an even more frivolous (and legally losing) lawsuit. Thereafter, the cowardly billionaires of Oracle, the Ellisons, finalized their purchase of Paramount and CBS... with the blessings of the mafia Don himself. Months later, the same Ellisons are attempting to purchase Discovery and CNN. Netflix who had a bid accepted, somehow dropped out after a meeting with Trump, who obviously put his thumb on the scale. Without his approval, the take-over would be nixed. Unsurprisingly, Netflix dropped out, and surprise, the Ellisons announced they were the winners of this prize. Allegedly, the billionaires still needed Middle East oil money to consummate the deal. A long and winding road, and Joseph Goebbels would be proud of these fascist take-overs of the media. Along with Musk taking over X, and the Ellisons running CBS and CNN, there is Sinclair, which has purchased a total of 295 local stations. Surprise, they are a right-wing group as well. The overseer of the airwaves, the FCC, continues to change the ownership rules to favor Trump's favorites... in this case, the Sinclair network. At the same time, the Trump-appointed FCC boss has decided to try and take away the licenses from ABC stations, because comedian Jimmy Kimmel upset the mob boss. We are living in a universe where the inmates are running the asylum.

Democracy is going through a hard time these days unfortunately.

13 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

As opposed to the whiter than white Labour and Conservative parties I presume....I had best not forget the Greens as i wouldnt wish to appear biased in any way.

No political party will ever be 'whiter than white'. But come on.

26 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I agree with everything you posted but I think you can and possibly should also see when someone is telling a little joke and treat it as such.

There's plenty on here never mind across the rest of the UK and world, who didn't and still don't understand how social media works and how the algorithms are designed to "feed" you what you want to see and hear.

Add in that lunatic Musk with X and it shows how dangerous it can get. That is why good honest journalism is still very much needed today.

I didn't for one moment believed I'd given him a migraine and I wasn't calling him a liar but rather just using it as an example how people should not believe everything they read as being gospel.

I stand by the rest of my post though, if people like me don't try to open peoples eyes as to what things like "Confirmation Bias" and "Echo Chambers" are, then how will they ever find out that there's more to social media than pictures of fluffy kittens?

8 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I didn't for one moment believed I'd given him a migraine and I wasn't calling him a liar but rather just using it as an example how people should not believe everything they read as being gospel.

I stand by the rest of my post though, if people like me don't try to open peoples eyes as to what things like "Confirmation Bias" and "Echo Chambers" are, then how will they ever find out that there's more to social media than pictures of fluffy kittens?

Fair enough but it was a really poor example as it was completely obviously not gospel and a little joke.

14 minutes ago, Cheese said:

No political party will ever be 'whiter than white'. But come on.

Come on where?

30 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

As opposed to the whiter than white Labour and Conservative parties I presume....I had best not forget the Greens as i wouldnt wish to appear biased in any way.

Aye.

72K.

Every party has donors.

So long as they're legal and above board, then why the concern?

If the rules need modernising, legitimately, then so be it.

Otherwise, just get on with it.

17 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

Come on where?

You're either blinded by hate or utterly ignorant.

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Who decides who should and shouldn't be given a platform?

Lots and lots of nastiness on it, but leave those bits alone.

However, at what point is the "moral outrage" simply a tool to be used by those who don't want their narrative challenging?

The very essence of why the country is where it is currently.

Or social media being use to push a narrative.

Look at the cunt owns the predominant social media network and the narratives he’s pushing.

Can take the boy out of apartheid…………blah blah blah.

16 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You're either blinded by hate or utterly ignorant.

What the fuck have you been drinking again??......I merely pointed out that all the major parties are corrupt in one form or another but obviously your urgency to paint yourself as a righteous , liberal keyboard warrior got the better of you again.

I'm not blind, I've always seen you for the sad, needy, attention seeking soul that you are......neither am I ignorant but i dont feel the need to be controversial for the sake of it or randomly spew out unfounded bullshit and name calling to try and make myself relevant.

I have entered into discussions on here with people with differing politics and opinions to my own and have found common ground and if not agreed with them have listened to their point of view.

The likes of you and your polar opposites on the right are what are dragging this country further into the mire.

Just now, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

What the fuck have you been drinking again??......I merely pointed out that all the major parties are corrupt in one form or another but obviously your urgency to paint yourself as a righteous , liberal keyboard warrior got the better of you again.

I'm not blind, I've always seen you for the sad, needy, attention seeking soul that you are......neither am I ignorant but i dont feel the need to be controversial for the sake of it or randomly spew out unfounded bullshit and name calling to try and make myself relevant.

I have entered into discussions on here with people with differing politics and opinions to my own and have found common ground and if not agreed with them have listened to their point of view.

The likes of you and your polar opposites on the right are what are dragging this country further into the mire.

Blinded by hate it is then.

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Blinded by hate it is then.

I couldnt hate you sweetie but keep trying x

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

Fair enough but it was a really poor example as it was completely obviously not gospel and a little joke.

Lighten up mate Christ did you not read this bit...

2 hours ago, Sluffy said:

My advice if anyone is interested is basically disbelieve anything you read on social media until you check its authenticity for yourself first.

(that btw includes everything I say too).

If I give even myself as an example of 'trust no one' as being gospel, I'm hardly signalling out LW or anyone else am I?

Well, am I?

You've seen something that really isn't there.

4 hours ago, Dimron said:

Reform and Restore are both corrupt.

Harbone and Delo are both in for 25mill, no wonder Nidge is proposing a reduction in capital gains tax on crypto.

Then Musk is into Lowe for £72k and about to increase... yet legislation foĺlowing the recent Rycroft Review has excluded donations from social media platforms.

All incompetent and dishonest in my opinion and a massive enema is needed.

In one. Plain as day

10 hours ago, gonzo said:

Was always going to end this way.

It's happened throughout the history of mankind.

Politicians let this happen.

more accurate to say they made this happen

I keep stuff like whipped up narrative, algorithms and social media brainwashing folk in to thinking certain ways and vote for people.

It's as if these incidents aren't actually happening. It's as if there hasn't actually been Aslyum seekers trying to behead folk in the street or rafts of sexual assault and rape cases by men and boys from Afghanistan all over the country.

It's as if what the seems old news of Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs across the county haven't happened and this Nowark kid wasn't left to die in handcuffs after being stabbed by a man that was allowed to wander round with a ceremonial machete.

It's as if there isn't boats upon boat load of migrants being housed all over the country in HMOs, Hotels and housing schemes putting yet more strain on services.

You don't need algorithms and Tommy Robinson twitter accounts or GB News to see that these problems are happening in every day life.

Of course your Reforms and Restores will jump all over anything but that's how politicians work.

They wouldn't exist if the problems weren't allowed to sprial out of control by our two main parties over decades anyway.

Exactly. It was, is and will be up to the main political parties to stop or ideally prevent these real problems which are affecting the country and its law abiding citizens (of all backgrounds). If not then history tells us less salubrious individuals and parties will emerge to exploit the problems and create divisions all in the name of personal gain. Time is running out for Labour or the Tories to convince people that they can make their lives better, so they don’t have to resort to the lies of Reform/Restore who ironically will only make their lives worse.