Stig Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 9 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: Said to stepdaughter watching it, could have hooked TAA after an hour, dropped JB back (he was already doing so anyway), brought Gordon on and moved Foden in behind Kane for rest of game. Gordon's ball carrying ability would have been an outlet and Foden might have got more involved as the link to Kane. Definitely agree with that. It's this on game management Southgate really struggles with. Just watches on as the momentum moves to the opposition Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Just now, Stig said: Definitely agree with that. It's this on game management Southgate really struggles with. Just watches on as the momentum moves to the opposition 100% when it comes to fine detail & in game management I expect Southgate to come second best.. like he did last night after a decent first 30 minutes the game changed completely and he had no answer. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 17, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 17, 2024 13 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: Said to stepdaughter watching it, could have hooked TAA after an hour, dropped JB back (he was already doing so anyway), brought Gordon on and moved Foden in behind Kane for rest of game. Gordon's ball carrying ability would have been an outlet and Foden might have got more involved as the link to Kane. 2 minutes ago, Stig said: Definitely agree with that. It's this on game management Southgate really struggles with. Just watches on as the momentum moves to the opposition Just now, Mounts Kipper said: 100% when it comes to fine detail & in game management I expect Southgate to come second best.. like he did last night after a decent first 30 minutes the game changed completely and he had no answer. We won. Quote
gonzo Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 His comments on over using energy in the first half are concerning. Quote
Members DirtySanchez Posted June 17, 2024 Members Posted June 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, Cheese said: We won. But against better opposition we wouldn't See last Euro final Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 17, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said: But against better opposition we wouldn't See last Euro final Maybe he'd have made different changes against better opposition? 🤷♂️ Quote
gonzo Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Just now, Cheese said: Maybe he'd have made different changes against better opposition? 🤷♂️ Well his track record suggests he wouldn't. But we can live in hope 🙏 Quote
Members DirtySanchez Posted June 17, 2024 Members Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Maybe he'd have made different changes against better opposition? 🤷♂️ See last Euro final Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 17, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 17, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: See last Euro final Maybe he's learned from that? Or maybe it's irrelevant? Maybe if he'd made the changes suggested above last night, we'd have conceded? 🤷♂️ Edited June 17, 2024 by Cheese Quote
deeane Koontz Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: His comments on over using energy in the first half are concerning. It was a very odd comment. They're elite athletes who play high intensity football week in week out. Quote
gonzo Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Just now, deeane Koontz said: It was a very odd comment. They're elite athletes who play high intensity football week in week out. Think he's on to something. Need to let Novak Djokovic to stop running around as much in his early sets Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 14 minutes ago, Cheese said: Maybe he'd have made different changes against better opposition? 🤷♂️ So last night, having lost the initiative at 1-0, he brought on less worthy substitutes because the opposition wasn't all that ????? Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 17, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 17, 2024 Just now, Dr. Feelgood said: So last night, having lost the initiative at 1-0, he brought on less worthy substitutes because the opposition wasn't all that ????? We won. Wish Evatt had made the same awful mistakes a month ago. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Cheese said: We won. Wish Evatt had made the same awful mistakes a month ago. By the skin of our teeth & having a number of players under-perform. But you're actually suggesting he brought on lesser subs because the opposition wasn’t up to much. Stunning. Quote
deeane Koontz Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Definitely need someone who actually knows how to play midfield alongside Rice. Mainoo is quality on the ball and is dead calm but hasn't quite got the legs getting back and can get overran. Think Southgate see's him further up the field as a alternative. Gallagher has the legs but can be a headless chicken at times. How good is this Wharton lad don't think I've seen him play? Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 17, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Dr. Feelgood said: By the skin of our teeth & having a number of players under-perform. But you're actually suggesting he brought on lesser subs because the opposition wasn’t up to much. Stunning. I'm not suggesting anything. You're suggesting he got it badly wrong, even though we won. 🤷♂️ Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 31 minutes ago, Cheese said: We won. I know Quote
Members DazBob Posted June 17, 2024 Members Posted June 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: By the skin of our teeth Whilst we didn't play particularly well, I'd not say we won it by the "skin of our teeth". Pickford had one save to make, from distance, which was pretty routine. Quote
mattbwfc19 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said: Definitely need someone who actually knows how to play midfield alongside Rice. Mainoo is quality on the ball and is dead calm but hasn't quite got the legs getting back and can get overran. Think Southgate see's him further up the field as a alternative. Gallagher has the legs but can be a headless chicken at times. How good is this Wharton lad don't think I've seen him play? He is very good imo, wouldnt mind seeing him start for us Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, DazBob said: Whilst we didn't play particularly well, I'd not say we won it by the "skin of our teeth". Pickford had one save to make, from distance, which was pretty routine. The second half we were poor. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 28 minutes ago, Cheese said: Maybe he'd have made different changes against better opposition? 🤷♂️ THIS is what you were suggesting. 100% bizarre. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 17, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 17, 2024 Just now, Dr. Feelgood said: THIS is what you were suggesting. 100% bizarre. That's not a suggestion, it's a rhetorical question. Maybe he wouldn't? 🤷♂️ Anyway, we won. Quote
Members DirtySanchez Posted June 17, 2024 Members Posted June 17, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Cheese said: We won. Wish Evatt had made the same awful mistakes a month ago. So you think that because we won it's carry on regardless You can learn things from achieving a goal and still think things could have been done better Edited June 17, 2024 by DirtySanchez Quote
gonzo Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Think people are just concerned we and he showed similar traits last night that have let us down in past. On a brighter note Rice was outstanding and so was Bowen when he came on. Quote
Members DazBob Posted June 17, 2024 Members Posted June 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: The second half we were poor. I don't disagree. A better team might well have deprived us of the win ... but we didn't win by the skin of our teeth. Quote
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