woolli Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 11 hours ago, Wanderlust said: We've had donkeys years of "characters" and none of them have a win record anywhere near approaching what Southgate has achieved. If he goes after this tournament there isn't really anyone else who had managed through the England youth teams/has the knowledge and experience of international football that Southgate has. Boring in your opinion maybe, but he's brought through loads of top players from being kids and he's a winner. Keegan, Taylor, Venables, Revie, Robson, Hodgson, Hoddle, Erikson, Sir Alf Ramsey, Greenwood, Winterbottom and - yawn _ McLaren are all losers compared to Southgate. Since the war, only one manager - Fabio Capello - has had more success than Southgate (unless you count Allardyce's played 1 won 1 100% record which I don't as it was a jammy 1 nil win snatched in extra time against Slovakia - a game we should have won comfortably) If it means England winning most of their games, I don't give a f*** how boring Southgate is. How the fuck can you say Southgates a winner when hes won fuck all. He lost us the euros last time round, and will do the same in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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radcliffe white Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Belting lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 17 minutes ago, burnden said: Why is it based on St Piran flag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Belting lads Young C there been hitting the herb hard 🌿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 29 minutes ago, woolli said: How the fuck can you say Southgates a winner when hes won fuck all. He lost us the euros last time round, and will do the same in Germany. Gammons assemble. Southgate has the second best win % of England managers (ignoring one-bam-Sam). Only Capello has better, but his major tournament record was 2010 = last 16, 2012 = quarter final. Southgate: 2018 = Semi final, 2020 = Final, 2022 = quarter finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 There's progression then there's winning stuff. He's progressed us massively from where we were, just hasn't exhibited the requirements to get us over the line....yet. Some just won't like him whatever he does because of his demeanour. Reckon a new attacking philosophy and this new Forino lad...... ah shit wrong thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted June 16 Site Supporter Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, green genie said: Why is it based on St Piran flag? It’s navy blue, not black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 12 minutes ago, gonzo said: Young C there been hitting the herb hard 🌿 Absolutely😀 some good manpower in that photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Religion of peace at it again in Hamburg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 16 Members Share Posted June 16 16 minutes ago, gonzo said: There's progression then there's winning stuff. He's progressed us massively from where we were, just hasn't exhibited the requirements to get us over the line....yet. Some just won't like him whatever he does because of his demeanour. Reckon a new attacking philosophy and this new Forino lad...... ah shit wrong thread On the subject of similarities with Evatt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 13 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: On the subject of similarities with Evatt... That's Kane and Bellingham off on 75 after Trippier on 70 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted June 16 Members Share Posted June 16 51 minutes ago, gonzo said: Religion of peace at it again in Hamburg? aye https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72292lpz2yo Not seemed to stop the dutch raving though 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wanderlust Posted June 16 Popular Post Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said: Gammons assemble. Southgate has the second best win % of England managers (ignoring one-bam-Sam). Only Capello has better, but his major tournament record was 2010 = last 16, 2012 = quarter final. Southgate: 2018 = Semi final, 2020 = Final, 2022 = quarter finals. Winning most matches, winning group stages, winning quarter finals and winning a semi final is apparently not winning although I have to admit it felt like winning at the time. Folk forget that England under Southgate have a better win percentage against World top ten opposition than Germany, Italy, Holland, Croatia and Portugal in the same period. Not bad for a loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 36 minutes ago, burnden said: aye https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72292lpz2yo Not seemed to stop the dutch raving though 😍 Ace Nearly as impressive as the England fans counting all the way down from 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RUREADY2ROLL Posted June 16 Popular Post Share Posted June 16 From Gelsenkirchin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 16 Members Share Posted June 16 49 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: Winning most matches, winning group stages, winning quarter finals and winning a semi final is apparently not winning although I have to admit it felt like winning at the time. Folk forget that England under Southgate have a better win percentage against World top ten opposition than Germany, Italy, Holland, Croatia and Portugal in the same period. Not bad for a loser. It really is uncanny how similar the Southgate and Evatt debates are to each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 16 Site Supporter Share Posted June 16 3 hours ago, woolli said: How the fuck can you say Southgates a winner when hes won fuck all. He lost us the euros last time round, and will do the same in Germany. There will be questions over his approach, but to say he "lost us the Euros" is over the top. Players, the best we have, must also take some of the responsibility. Apart from 66, no manager of England has won anything neither- on that basis, Southgate's record stands up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Religion of peace at it again in Hamburg? He looked more of skinhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 3 hours ago, radcliffe white said: Absolutely😀 some good manpower in that photo Looks like it was needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted June 16 Members Share Posted June 16 Albanians attacking Serbians = englands fault if you read twitter ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 16 Members Share Posted June 16 5 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said: 🎣 Caught one. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: There will be questions over his approach, but to say he "lost us the Euros" is over the top. Players, the best we have, must also take some of the responsibility. Apart from 66, no manager of England has won anything neither- on that basis, Southgate's record stands up. I do back Southgate but did did think the second half against Italy needed a bit of more tactical nouse. It was a huge opportunity missed, and yes the players do have to take some responsibility for that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 16 Members Share Posted June 16 4 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said: Gammons assemble. Southgate has the second best win % of England managers (ignoring one-bam-Sam). Only Capello has better, but his major tournament record was 2010 = last 16, 2012 = quarter final. Southgate: 2018 = Semi final, 2020 = Final, 2022 = quarter finals. You fucking dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 9 minutes ago, burnden said: Albanians attacking Serbians = englands fault if you read twitter ffs Wife beater collymore going on about it - all England fans accoring to that skld ,mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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