No Henderson in the provisional squad 

9 minutes ago, woolli said:

But we need to win to avoid the big guns on the other side of the draw!

To be honest, we ought to be able to win even with some changes.

The first-names haven't yet ripped any trees up.

I don't think we will see many though.

49 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

To be honest, we ought to be able to win even with some changes.

The first-names haven't yet ripped any trees up.

I don't think we will see many though.

Sky sports reporting only 1 change, being Gallagher for TAA.

Let’s hope it can be the confidence booster they need!

4-0 and all of a sudden we’re going to win the Euros.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

To be honest, we ought to be able to win even with some changes.

The first-names haven't yet ripped any trees up.

I don't think we will see many though.

We didnt look very good against Iceland when Mr Motivator made changes then! 

Don't think I've ever been so less arsed about an England game in a major tournament.

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Don't think I've ever been so less arsed about an England game in a major tournament.

The Southgate effect. It's every England game for me now (apart from any 'home internationals' I suppose. Got to keep them down).

Sounds like, if you go off the leaks, it's basically just Gallagher for Trent. Which is fine, but it doesn't address the bigger issue of absolutely fuck all on the left hand side. 

The team is not balanced without a proper left sided player. It seems southgates plan is just pick his best players and hope it comes good. 

I'll reserve proper judgement until the team comes out but if foden is on the left again he's basically putting his head in the sand. 

14 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

The Southgate effect. It's every England game for me now (apart from any 'home internationals' I suppose. Got to keep them down).

Yep. I've proper loved the tournament as a whole and watched nearly every match. 

I dread watching England. Feel like I'm sat in waiting room at the dentists today.

16 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

The Southgate effect. It's every England game for me now (apart from any 'home internationals' I suppose. Got to keep them down).

Can i get your take on every manager bar ramsey?

 

Have a look at some of our previous final group games there's been a few meh ones in recent years

2010 Slovenia again 1-0

2012 Ukraine 1-0

2014 Costa Rica 0-0

2016 Slovakia 0-0

2018 Belgium 0-1

2020 Czech 1-0

Some proper duds in there. 

42 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

Have a look at some of our previous final group games there's been a few meh ones in recent years

2010 Slovenia again 1-0

2012 Ukraine 1-0

2014 Costa Rica 0-0

2016 Slovakia 0-0

2018 Belgium 0-1

2020 Czech 1-0

Some proper duds in there. 

Bloody Southgate 

anyway, 

Austria, France, England & Denmark tonight 

2 hours ago, woolli said:

But we need to win to avoid the big guns on the other side of the draw!

I assume you're being sarcastic, but just in case, 1) to win the competition we have to beat them all sooner or later anyway 2) is the idea to win the competition or get as far as we can by winning "easier" games and then moaning about how we bottled it 3) England are favourites according to some English bookies who want to shorten the odds because they know there are enough deluded England fans to bet on England so according to the bookies there are no guns bigger than England 4) should we go into the later stages with no tried and tested contingency such as the Wharton and Rice shielding partnership or have it nailed in case of injuries/dismissals/hanging on to a narrow lead? 5) As mentioned, we should beat Slovenia with a few changes anyway.

Fuck the so-called "big guns" - we are England, overdue a competition win and just about deluded enough to think we can actually do it this time (again) with this crop of players. Which we should if they pull their collective fingers out.

1 hour ago, woolli said:

We didnt look very good against Iceland when Mr Motivator made changes then! 

A friendly. 

Not making any judgements on that!

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Don't think I've ever been so less arsed about an England game in a major tournament.

Same, I struggle to give a toss about watching England anyway, but this tournament I've not watched a great deal of, almost zero interest. Of course that will change if we get to the semi-finals, until then, I'll not be that bothered

Netherlands v Austria is the game to watch here out of these two, surely.

There wasn’t he motivation amongst a lot of us fans initially- maybe amongst the players too!

Once it got started, it became a different story; as keen as ever on wanting to win.

Just hope the final outcome is a different story than the norm.

21 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

Netherlands v Austria is the game to watch here out of these two, surely.

Shock result on the cards!

Drinks break!

5 minutes ago, woolli said:

Shock result on the cards!

I like the look of Austria me, hope we don't play them!

21 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

I like the look of Austria me, hope we don't play them!

Dutch are playing like us.

33 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

I like the look of Austria me, hope we don't play them!

Aye, They look a really organised unit

Cannot stand that penalty technique of Lewandowski, switch it back over and Austria thrash one in mint!

Dutch keeper has become late stage Jussi

One of these teams will qualify in third place. Just saying....

not one stand out team so far 

lack of quality

never been so easy to make a living playing football