just a quickie ,cos its Sunday night and we won yesterday.

A  god ?

any God 

then prove it !

I dont believe 

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Who I am apologising for? Those who have faith? Careful up there on your badly constructed high horse.

I don't believe in any God, because I do prescribe to post modern secularism. But it doesn't mean I'm right, and people who don't subscribe to that are wrong.

You're apologising on behalf of people who believe a load of fucking nonsense.

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

That's evidentialism which is hegamonic in secular society and has been since the Enlightenment "I have to see conclusive evidence that there is a God, otherwise there isn't" which isn't beyond criticism because of the high standard it sets itself to prove conclusively God does not exisit - which we currently can't. Cheese's doxastic attitude seems to be of WK Clifford school that we always must have sufficient evidence for everyone of our beliefs. Which seems totally logical but then think about how many times in your life you do things beliveing in faith or on trust - it's not quite so easy to adhere to that particular philosopical maxim.

I shall now fuck off to pseud's corner and make my tea...😁

Say whatever you want.

The idea some dude, in whatever entity, created a universe that inflated to the point of a super hot big bang that then created an even bigger universe filled with 2 trillion galaxies filled inhabitable giant rocks, black holes and super fucking novas is slightly farfetched

Chuck in there us being the only planet in our observable galaxy containing any form of intelligent lifeform that didn't exist till billions of years after it's creation then a further few million years of evolution to where we are now.

None if it was created.

Imo

Who would Adam and Eve it?

24 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Say whatever you want.

The idea some dude, in whatever entity, created a universe that inflated to the point of a super hot big bang that then created an even bigger universe filled with 2 trillion galaxies filled inhabitable giant rocks, black holes and super fucking novas is slightly farfetched

Chuck in there us being the only planet in our observable galaxy containing any form of intelligent lifeform that didn't exist till billions of years after it's creation then a further few million years of evolution to where we are now.

None if it was created.

Imo

Who would Adam and Eve it?

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

3 cocks with only 2 hands sounds tricky.

Be like turning a ships wheel.

Depending what sort of monkey it is it might be able to use it's tail as a "third hand" 

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Depending what sort of monkey it is it might be able to use it's tail as a "third hand" 

Already clarified above. 6 hands.

57 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Say whatever you want.

The idea some dude, in whatever entity, created a universe that inflated to the point of a super hot big bang that then created an even bigger universe filled with 2 trillion galaxies filled inhabitable giant rocks, black holes and super fucking novas is slightly farfetched

Chuck in there us being the only planet in our observable galaxy containing any form of intelligent lifeform that didn't exist till billions of years after it's creation then a further few million years of evolution to where we are now.

None if it was created.

Imo

I can and I will - as I say, I don't believe in God and it might seem far fetched but you can't fundamentally disprove it either. 

That's the kicker for those of an strictly evidential philosophical bent.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

You're apologising on behalf of people who believe a load of fucking nonsense.

Ok, Mullah Cheese 😆

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I can and I will - as I say, I don't believe in God and it might seem far fetched but you can't fundamentally disprove it either. 

That's the kicker for those of an strictly evidential philosophical bent.

You can't fundamentally disprove the existence of my purple monkey God with wings of steel, 6 hands, and 3 massive cocks. I hope you give Gareth the same reverence and respect as you do the false deities.

Edited February 13, 20251 yr by Cheese

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You can't fundamentally disprove the existence of my purple monkey God with wings of steel, 6 hands, and 3 massive cocks. I hope you give Gareth the same reverence and respect as you do the false deities.

And you've done a great job of proving all my points today, so thanks for that.

The dogmatic post was a belter. 

Anyway, I've enjoyed it but I'll leave you to your own God creationism now. This Gareth had better be a benevolent God though as I think he's going to have a bit of difficulty getting into the scriptures with your ego 😁

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

And you've done a great job of proving all my points today, so thanks for that.

The dogmatic post was a belter. 

Anyway, I've enjoyed it but I'll leave you to your own God creationism now. This Gareth had better be a benevolent God though as I think he's going to have a bit of difficulty getting into the scriptures with your ego 😁

You've done a great job of not answering simple questions whilst saying lots of meaningless fucking nonsense. Enjoy your night.

Dave Allen has it nailed.

 

7 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Believers or not, I hope none of you burn any religious texts in public because if someone complains GMP and the courts will be on your case 

Please can someone stand on Bolton Town Hall steps and set fire to @Cheese’s purple monkey. Ta

7 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Please can someone stand on Bolton Town Hall steps and set fire to @Cheese’s purple monkey. Ta

Yes please. That is one of the ways we worship Him.

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Say whatever you want.

The idea some dude, in whatever entity, created a universe that inflated to the point of a super hot big bang that then created an even bigger universe filled with 2 trillion galaxies filled inhabitable giant rocks, black holes and super fucking novas is slightly farfetched

Chuck in there us being the only planet in our observable galaxy containing any form of intelligent lifeform that didn't exist till billions of years after it's creation then a further few million years of evolution to where we are now.

None if it was created.

Imo

I agree, almost entirely.

My only issue is that the idea that a universe that inflated to a super hot big bang etc, with no explanation etc that has any significant foundation (as yet) is also slightly far fetched.

No doubt similar things have been said before and then come to fruition, but this one is so far out as to be inconceivable. 

Infinity expanding from fuck all. How?

Think we all need to get on the edibles and thrash this out over the course of evening in Kent Whites scullery.

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I agree, almost entirely.

My only issue is that the idea that a universe that inflated to a super hot big bang etc, with no explanation etc that has any significant foundation (as yet) is also slightly far fetched.

No doubt similar things have been said before and then come to fruition, but this one is so far out as to be inconceivable. 

Infinity expanding from fuck all. How?

It didn't expand from fuck all exactly. It expanded from an incredibly compressed point containing all the energy and matter that became the universe. 

And there's lots of evidence that supports the theory - like the cosmic microwave background, and our observations of distant galaxies and their increasing speed depending on their distance, and the exact mix of elements that the big bang theory predicted would have been created in the first few minutes. 

There's a lot we don't understand. But a lot that we do.....

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Think we all need to get on the edibles and thrash this out over the course of evening in Kent Whites scullery.

😂😂😂

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

Whatever mate. I did read it, but it's just a load of apologist shite. Just answer my really simple question. Do you believe in my purple monkey God called Gareth with wings of steel and 3 massive cocks or not? And if not, why not?

This reminds me of the pastafarianism movement in the US. Which at its time was a hilarious piss take movement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

Some of them even won a legal battle to wear a pasta colander on their heads in passport photos. 

5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

This reminds me of the pastafarianism movement in the US. Which at its time was a hilarious piss take movement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

Some of them even won a legal battle to wear a pasta colander on their heads in passport photos. 

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

20 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It didn't expand from fuck all exactly. It expanded from an incredibly compressed point containing all the energy and matter that became the universe. 

And there's lots of evidence that supports the theory - like the cosmic microwave background, and our observations of distant galaxies and their increasing speed depending on their distance, and the exact mix of elements that the big bang theory predicted would have been created in the first few minutes. 

There's a lot we don't understand. But a lot that we do.....

Saw that on the video. 

Trouble is, this compressed point seems like an idea that fits the concept.

He still says they don't know why it's expanding!

Another thing: if all the matter was created in this instant, then the light followed shortly after upon cooling, then how are we able to now detect that light?

All those photons must have well fucked off away from universe in the time since.

He explains that the universe is curved, which might explain the light being detectable- in which case how can the universe be expanding infinitely, contrary to initial belief?

How the hell do they know its of that shape?

Just way too much to get the swede around.

Oh, and by the way Brian, if there are an infinite number of universes, can you point us in the direction of the one where Vic bags 40+ goals per season. 

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Saw that on the video. 

Trouble is, this compressed point seems like an idea that fits the concept.

He still says they don't know why it's expanding!

Another thing: if all the matter was created in this instant, then the light followed shortly after upon cooling, then how are we able to now detect that light?

All those photons must have well fucked off away from universe in the time since.

He explains that the universe is curved, which might explain the light being detectable- in which case how can the universe be expanding infinitely, contrary to initial belief?

How the hell do they know its of that shape?

Just way too much to get the swede around.

Oh, and by the way Brian, if there are an infinite number of universes, can you point us in the direction of the one where Vic bags 40+ goals per season. 

These are all really good questions - that mostly have answers that are a bit too complicated to explain on here! By me at least 😁 We'll have to discuss it over a brew and some cake next time I see you. 

All I do know is that most scientists are on record as being in agreement that there is no universe in which Vic bags 40+ goals per season 😂

On 11/02/2025 at 22:42, Casino said:

that 'shite' goes back to at least the 70s

I'll throw in 60's. Lever Enders for certain.

11 hours ago, Sweep said:

Aye, there are also some people think we should bow down, and offer deference to a Royal Family

Lessons on this should be in school curricula.

Leaders of our tribe. 

Now then, this 'GOD' discussion.

My brain hurts.

Can we show some decorum and get back to titwanks and clackervalves?