Ani Posted October 5, 2025 Author Posted October 5, 2025 We have booked on train tickets, I will be using my Senior Railcard for the first time. i assume I will also have to tell people to sit up straight, get their feet off the seats and be generally unfriendly to my fellow travellers. Not much new. Quote
freds dad Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 5 hours ago, Ani said: We have booked on train tickets, I will be using my Senior Railcard for the first time. i assume I will also have to tell people to sit up straight, get their feet off the seats and be generally unfriendly to my fellow travellers. Not much new. And demand that some young whipper snapper offers you their seat. Quote
L/H White Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 i thought we'd back wigan up at northampton and we never we really ought to be here to have any chance of making the playoffs we need some consistency sharpish Quote
Casino Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 1 hour ago, L/H White said: we really ought to be here to have any chance of making the playoffs you need some new material Quote
L/H White Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 15 minutes ago, Casino said: you need some new material do you go to the games with your eyes closed? we've yet to win away, we won't be going anywhere if we can't win away especially against relegation fodder Quote
Duck Egg Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 Giving this one a miss this year. I probably should admire Burton for punching above their weight season after season but I cant help finding them annoying as well as our usual inability to win there. Last season notwithstanding. Quote
Ani Posted October 6, 2025 Author Posted October 6, 2025 1 hour ago, L/H White said: i thought we'd back wigan up at northampton and we never we really ought to be here to have any chance of making the playoffs we need some improvement away from home sharpish Slight edit ! Quote
Casino Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 22 minutes ago, L/H White said: do you go to the games with your eyes closed? we've yet to win away, we won't be going anywhere if we can't win away especially against relegation fodder we could be 20th in january, 15 points off and still make play offs Quote
Lostock Whites Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 (edited) I know we've said it before and know that it's very simple. But please for the love of god do not give anything silly away to this team at their place! We're too dependant on getting that 1st goal for a result, cannot go a goal behind and be chasing. They're near the bottom for a reason. Need to smash them. Desperate for a win here, got a few boxes to tick. First away win and first win back to back. Those 2 need to be done a lot to be anywhere near the top 2. Edited October 6, 2025 by Lostock Whites Quote
boltonboris Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 They've picked up some big away points recently. Draw at Huddersfield, Draw at Doncaster and a win at Cardiff. But they're yet to register a home win. Got pumped off Plymouth 4-0 at the Pirelli in their last home encounter. They'll be looking to put that right, having picked up 4 points in their next 2 games (away from home obvs..) Not a gimme by any stretch. However, first goal and we should be good to go.. Quote
Zico Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 47 minutes ago, Casino said: we could be 20th in january, 15 points off and still make play offs we could, but we probably wouldn't just as likely to drop off a cliff like we did last season was hoping to see us sustain a challenge for the top two miself, we still can, but the away form needs to improve sooner rather than later still think we're heading in the right direction, still think we'll get better just need that away win to reaffirm my thoughts Quote
Casino Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 23 hours ago, Zico said: we could, but we probably wouldn't just as likely to drop off a cliff like we did last season i'll accept just as likely, though i don't agree either way, ought to win here to have any chance of the play offs is just bullshit Quote
Wanderlust Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 On 06/10/2025 at 11:43, boltonboris said: They've picked up some big away points recently. Draw at Huddersfield, Draw at Doncaster and a win at Cardiff. But they're yet to register a home win. Got pumped off Plymouth 4-0 at the Pirelli in their last home encounter. They'll be looking to put that right, having picked up 4 points in their next 2 games (away from home obvs..) Not a gimme by any stretch. However, first goal and we should be good to go.. I think Bowyer has built a competitive side using journeyman players, all fairly athletic but with hit and miss careers. It’s understandable if they pick up some good results during the course of the season because lackadaisical performances won’t cut it against them i.e. if teams have better quality, they’ll need to bring it to turn Burton over. They don’t make many mistakes (although we can hope they do on this occasion!) and they compete. For me it’s a simple equation: providing we make a good start, take our chances and keep the pressure on without getting sloppy if we get a lead - as we did on Saturday - we have the quality to beat them, but we have to bring it. Anything less and it will be a lottery. We need a win, if only to break the away day hoodoo. Quote
Ani Posted October 7, 2025 Author Posted October 7, 2025 2 hours ago, Casino said: i'll accept just as likely, though i don't agree either way, ought to win here to have any chance of the play offs is just bullshit Ok but if we do not win here where are we likely to win ? Quote
Casino Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 well, we could win anywhere on what i've seen, theres not a game we will play this season that i won't expect us to be competitive i wouldn't have a problem with a tweak, btw, but it wouldn't be at the expense of either winger (unless forrs goes wide) or burstow Quote
Casino Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 Schumacher has said both ACD and Forss were close to selection so who knows whether Stevenage will go ahead Quote
L/H White Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 3 hours ago, Ani said: Ok but if we do not win here where are we likely to win ? assuring to know not everyone goes the match with their eyes shut Quote
desperado Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 4 hours ago, Ani said: Ok but if we do not win here where are we likely to win ? 3 hours ago, Casino said: well, we could win anywhere on what i've seen, theres not a game we will play this season that i won't expect us to be competitive i wouldn't have a problem with a tweak, btw, but it wouldn't be at the expense of either winger (unless forrs goes wide) or burstow 41 minutes ago, L/H White said: assuring to know not everyone goes the match with their eyes shut Offering a bit of balance, long term thinking and evidence I’ll side, just, with @Casino Despite understanding and acknowledging that our away form so far is poor and not winning on Saturday only adds to this. And FWIW, if we don’t win we should be disappointed and accept It’s below the expectations we should have. But I really do think this must win talk just out of September and if we don’t win here, then it’s never going to happen talk is OTT and reflective of our X-factor must happen now society. @wakey pointed out some of our historical promotions from L1, and evidence from our past that poor away starts can be overturned and not necessarily when you expect it. If we were playing really shit away and creating nothing, then I might be more concerned. What happens Saturday has little bearing on what happens when we go away to Doncaster, Rotherham and Exeter later in the season. If we don’t win Saturday, it ramps up the pressure against Huddersfield - but I won’t be throwing in the towel and saying there’s no point because we can’t even beat Burton - It would be typical Bolton if that’s our next away win. Quote
Wanderlust Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 I think we can agree that an away win would be good for morale. Quote
desperado Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 27 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: I think we can agree that an away win would be good for morale. Of course Quote
desperado Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 Evidence isn’t just with us either. @L/H White @Ani Charlton were absolutely rubbish this time last year and some wanted Jones out. And look at Derby above in their promotion season. Ninth after 14 games. They’d had some horrible away performances and had just lost 3-1 at Stevenage. Nobody would have anticipated the run of results to follow. While this league is so open anything can happen yet. While winning at Burton is important, expected, would be the much required kick-start, would start allaying concerns to our away form and would provide the needed result to hopefully put a run together… …not winning shouldn’t have us asking questions of can we beat anyone away. Quote
Zico Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 19 minutes ago, desperado said: Evidence isn’t just with us either. @L/H White @Ani Charlton were absolutely rubbish this time last year and some wanted Jones out. And look at Derby above in their promotion season. Ninth after 14 games. They’d had some horrible away performances and had just lost 3-1 at Stevenage. Nobody would have anticipated the run of results to follow. While this league is so open anything can happen yet. While winning at Burton is important, expected, would be the much required kick-start, would start allaying concerns to our away form and would provide the needed result to hopefully put a run together… …not winning shouldn’t have us asking questions of can we beat anyone away. I'd take a draw at Burton, and Huddersfield, if it was reflective of the game I just don't want to see another away game where we spaff enough opportunities to win then concede on any random occasion they attack and come away ruing our performances in either final third Quote
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