Kemi Badenoch doesn’t really need to speak in public more than once a month and she’ll do ok. In that respect, keeping her head down is proving very effective.

Sniping from the sidelines and criticising everyone clearly has merit. 🙃

What's really really weird is I've never heard anyone slag off Starmer in person. Maybe that's just the circles I move in, but it's just not a thing. He's just meh.

All I've seen is people on Facebook soapboxes, a huge echo chamber. Or people who think memes are political.

Burnham won't even make it as far as the next GE, the way things are.

The most vociferous voices calling for him to go were the big Boris supporters who wanted to even the score.

It’s worked, and has nothing to do with politics in that respect.

If Farage was elected tomorrow I assure you he’d not last a year

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

It doesn't sound like he'd be planning on deviating from the existing manifesto based on what I heard him say last night. So perhaps less of a need for a GE if he does end up in charge.......

There is will very little change I would have thought - he might be better at the comms, but I honestly think we're here ecause of knee jerk silliness from a lot of people. We're finally seeing some real changes - i know in renting and buying houses its certainly directly helped me which is the first time in a long time, and these are issues that needed addressing, along with some very positive changes.

I think as a country this might not be a good thing, and I'd rather we had a less partisan media and calmer heads in the country that would allow some of this work to bed in properly. But its like when you lose thw confidence of say a client, no matter how good the work, you just never get it back and someone else takes credit for doing the same things.

Anyway, they're all moot points now, I hope Burnham can be a good PM for the country.

8 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

There is will very little change I would have thought - he might be better at the comms, but I honestly think we're here ecause of knee jerk silliness from a lot of people. We're finally seeing some real changes - i know in renting and buying houses its certainly directly helped me which is the first time in a long time, and these are issues that needed addressing, along with some very positive changes.

I think as a country this might not be a good thing, and I'd rather we had a less partisan media and calmer heads in the country that would allow some of this work to bed in properly. But its like when you lose thw confidence of say a client, no matter how good the work, you just never get it back and someone else takes credit for doing the same things.

Anyway, they're all moot points now, I hope Burnham can be a good PM for the country.

I think we need to start behaving like adults again. And at least attempting to understand the nuances of a given subject - rather than jumping to an immediate conclusion based on whatever trope our 'side' seems to be trumpeting at that moment in time.

It's OK for people to disagree without hating each other. I just find it boring and tiresome tbh.

This fella has hit the nail on the head.

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Just watched his resignation speech. We really didn't need that music playing in the background.

Whatever you think of him, as Prime Minister, I think he deserved 5 minutes to say his piece to the British people with a bit of dignity.

I think it was that dickhead Steve Bray

The first job for Burnham should be to get him banned

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think it was that dickhead Steve Bray

The first job for Burnham should be to get him banned

Jesus wept. Is he still going?

It's not just billionaires and elites, it's gobshites who think they are influential.

Any change of PM should've been done by the proper process i.e. hitting the trigger for a leadership challenge and then having a proper but swift leadership election

The drip feeding of resignations, as we saw with the Tories and now with the Labour Party, to fundermine tge authority of whoever the PM is and force the personal ambitions of certain MPs is childsih nonsense

Personally, I think people might quickly become disillusioned with Burnham the more they're exposed to him but if there's one thing the country desperately needs at the minute, it's a bit of hope and optimism and it's not difficult to see why he appeals to people

Best of luck

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

This fella has hit the nail on the head.

Aye, Starmer ought to have done it but one of the first things that needs to be done by the new leader is to come down like a ton of bricks on these social media companies for what they've been allowing on their platforms.

8 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Jesus wept. Is he still going?

Sadly

I'm all for allowing protest but if he's pointlessly interrupting announcements outside Downing Street he needs pulling to one side because it's drifted into being a public order offence

Misinformation runs everything now.

Fortunately, as proven in Makerfield, I suspect that away from social media most Brits are still the same resolute souls who won’t be told what to do.

I’ll say it again - a lot of this is petty side-taking (we do it on here). Lines drawn, refusal to budge then doubling down on anything to criticise.

How I long for dull, tory governments.

for all the external noise and discontent, KS would still be PM if he had the backing of his own party / MPs

ultimately they're the ones who have hounded him out

now let's see if Burnham can unite them

1 minute ago, Zico said:

for all the external noise and discontent, KS would still be PM if he had the backing of his own party / MPs

ultimately they're the ones who have hounded him out

Exactly this

14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Sadly

I'm all for allowing protest but if he's pointlessly interrupting announcements outside Downing Street he needs pulling to one side because it's drifted into being a public order offence

In fact, it could be the thing that unites us

14 minutes ago, Zico said:

for all the external noise and discontent, KS would still be PM if he had the backing of his own party / MPs

ultimately they're the ones who have hounded him out

now let's see if Burnham can unite them

He might be a slightly better communicator and have that newness bias. But he's an ever so slightly more left wing version of KS - not a real change of direction if that's what people are expecting. He's not a socialist by any means.

Despite the protestations to the contrary we might hear. We've still never had a socialist government in the UK.

2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

Don't they do that quite frequently?

Probably should just do it elsewhere

I don't know mate. They did it for Rishi as well I think?

It's cringey.

5 hours ago, L/H White said:

Rinse & repeat

Come and go like Watford managers

Larry the Cat is onto his 7th PM now. He should be put in charge.

4 hours ago, Sweep said:

I think the pressure for a GE will be almost immediate, as soon as he's crowned, it'll be interesting to see how he copes/responds to that pressure

He should tell them to get fucked. He’s got 3 years to tirn the tide iof public opinion. Although the media and the tech bro cunts will be on the attack from day one.

5 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Larry the Cat is onto his 7th PM now. He should be put in charge.

Poor Thing is thinking

Who The Fuck Are You Now

It wasn't the screeching gammons on social media or the wallies chanting at darts matches that got Starmer out if office.

It was his own party.

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

It wasn't the screeching gammons on social media or the wallies chanting at darts matches that got Starmer out if office.

It was his own party.

Well obviously, because they're the only ones that currently have that power. Be a bit weird if some pissheads at the darts decided who the Labour Leader was.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Cheese

11 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Well obviously, because they're the only ones that currently have that power. Be a bit weird if some pissheads at the darts decided who the Labour

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

This fella has hit the nail on the head.

So this is bollocks then.

5 hours ago, Sweep said:

To be fair, they're not all "owd" there are some younger ones as well

Shout it loudly mate. It really is a powerful ally.

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

So this is bollocks then.

No?