globaldiver Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 I laughed at a racist joke Does this make me a racist?
Sweep Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Does this make me a racist? only you can answer that
stevieb Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 was it "i dont know what all the fuss is with obama, black people have been breaking into white houses for ages" because i laughed at that today and id like to know if im a racialist because of it!
globaldiver Posted November 6, 2008 Author Posted November 6, 2008 only you can answer that Thank God, I thought I would be judged by the BBC! I'm no wacist.
Smiffs Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Depends what racism is. Would I discriminate against one, no, do I think they are any less a human, not at all. Will I laugh at a funny joke about them, yes, just like I would if it was about fat blokes, a ginger wimmin, a one armed german......etc etc etc.
floyd Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Depends what racism is. Would I discriminate against one, no, do I think they are any less a human, not at all. Will I laugh at a funny joke about them, yes, just like I would if it was about fat blokes, a ginger wimmin, a one armed german......etc etc etc. I would most certainly discriminate against a Racist
M G WHITES Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) I would most certainly discriminate against a Racist Why? As long as you are happy with your views about race why bother with anyone eles. Edited November 6, 2008 by M G WHITES
floyd Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Why? As long as you are happy with your views about race why bother with anyone eles. Seriously? In much the same way as I ain't keen on the views of Paedophiles I guess. I'm just not comfortable with it.
Smiffs Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 I actually deleted the bit about bedwetting apologists.....
M G WHITES Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) Seriously? In much the same way as I ain't keen on the views of Paedophiles I guess. I'm just not comfortable with it. No fcuker is but what is the point,when have the views of average joe ever meant anything in this country? Edited November 6, 2008 by M G WHITES
bolty58 Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Seriously?In much the same way as I ain't keen on the views of Paedophiles I guess. I'm just not comfortable with it. I do worry about the way the social(ist) engineers have been able to demonise that word and have folk 'not comfortable with it'. In my view, it is completely and utterly over used - in most cases in the wrong context. Throughout history, tribal differences, religious bigotry, even football rivalries have produced wars, battles and general uproar. In my experience, some of the biggest racists are the people which, I suspect, floyd would be eager to 'defend'. Tutsi and Hutu anyone? As usual, the most sensible comment on this thread seems to have come from Smiffs. Other races ain't any less human and bleed the same red as we do. Judging a bloke on the colour of his skin is a sign of ignorance. Judging him on his beliefs and actions isn't.
frank_spencer Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 I do worry about the way the social(ist) engineers have been able to demonise that word and have folk 'not comfortable with it'. In my view, it is completely and utterly over used - in most cases in the wrong context. Throughout history, tribal differences, religious bigotry, even football rivalries have produced wars, battles and general uproar. In my experience, some of the biggest racists are the people which, I suspect, floyd would be eager to 'defend'. Tutsi and Hutu anyone? As usual, the most sensible comment on this thread seems to have come from Smiffs. Other races ain't any less human and bleed the same red as we do. Judging a bloke on the colour of his skin is a sign of ignorance. Judging him on his beliefs and actions isn't. i'd say skin colour and belief are things not to be judged on actions are.
no balls Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Judging a bloke on the colour of his skin is a sign of ignorance. Judging him on his beliefs and actions isn't. That sounds like something a proper speechwriter'd do. Have you plagiarised it, P?
bolty58 Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 i'd say skin colour and belief are things not to be judged on actions are. We'll disagree on beliefs then. For example, floyd mentioned paedophiles. Many of them believe what they do is right. Islamic extremists believe it is right to subjugate women. Sorry, but I will be judgmental about beliefs like that. NB - no, I don't believe I plagiarised that but it may be somewhere way back in the dark recesses from something I'd heard before. Don't think so though.
frank_spencer Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 We'll disagree on beliefs then. For example, floyd mentioned paedophiles. Many of them believe what they do is right. Islamic extremists believe it is right to subjugate women. Sorry, but I will be judgmental about beliefs like that. NB - no, I don't believe I plagiarised that but it may be somewhere way back in the dark recesses from something I'd heard before. Don't think so though. but its their actions and not their beliefs that are abhorrent.
no balls Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 but its their actions and not their beliefs that are abhorrent. As a 'lady', I'm not overkeen on their beliefs!
bolty58 Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 but its their actions and not their beliefs that are abhorrent. Actions because of their beliefs. FFS, Frank!!!
frank_spencer Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 As a 'lady', I'm not overkeen on their beliefs! they can believe what they want but when they act upon that belief and actually subjugate women is when they become wrong.
bolty58 Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 they can believe what they want but when they act upon that belief and actually subjugate women is when they become wrong. Semantics. Not replying any more. Become bored.
frank_spencer Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 Actions because of their beliefs. FFS, Frank!!! perhaps i missenterpreted the meaning of your post, bed time i think
no balls Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) they can believe what they want but when they act upon that belief and actually subjugate women is when they become wrong. With the greatest respect, Frank, that is utter pissfroth! The fact that I am learned enough & pretty well read, I understand their attitude towards wimmin is because of their beliefs, & that makes me not respect their belief. If a religion/culture feels a need to put wimmin in their place, the culture that finds that acceptable, needs to ask itself, why? And I'm not just talking about Islam here! Cue, the barrage of ironing comments! Edited November 6, 2008 by no balls
frank_spencer Posted November 6, 2008 Posted November 6, 2008 With the greatest respect, Frank, that is utter pissfroth! The fact that I am learned enough & pretty well read, I understand their attitude towards wimmin is because of their beliefs, & that makes me not respect their belief. If a religion/culture feels a need to put wimmin in their place, the culture that finds that acceptable, needs to ask itself, why? And I'm not just talking about Islam here! Cue, the barrage of ironing comments! that's pretty much every religion though, but i won't judge anyone for being religious, i might take the piss though.
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