MickyD Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I might be getting all this wrong, but how has the "booing" forced him out? Was he boo'ed on Wednesday? What other games has he been boo'ed at? He misplaced a pass part way through the first half. People were getting on his back then. Fortunately not more than one or two people at a time so largely inaudible. And then the eejits started their Megson's a wanker chants and KN was pretty much forgotten. If booing makes a player leave, whats nicky hunt still doing here? He's booed aswell according to some folk. Anyone know when he was last boo'ed? I don't know. Does he get a game in the reserves? He's certainly played little art in first team games this season. I'd say, to answer your question though, last time he was booed (by some) would probably be last time he played in the first team.
HoldensHairdo Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/wanderers/w...l_at_Newcastle/ Medical this morning...
Guest Blixa Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 What does a medical at Newcastle involve? A count of limbs and a check if there's a pulse?
trigger Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 have to say not too happy about this, quite pis*ed about it actually. cracking lad, and didnt deserve half the abuse he got. maybe its because we expected so much more from him. he had bolton at heart and a sad day when a notright thats been at the club not so long thinks stamping his name all over it inlcudes one of the bolton family, which nobby definately was! i'm guilty of criticising nobby over the years as are a good few on here, but the level of grief he's got this season is idiotic!
LHBWFC Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Im more worried about who we are going to get to replace him
magic legs Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Newcastle are in a dreadful mess - I have them as one of the 3 to go down. The last thing we want to do is give them anything that might improve them and Nolan may just do that. For all the fact that he's not been at his best for a few years, he does add something to the team.
YATESY Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Im more worried about who we are going to get to replace him Maybe Megson and Evans think they got his replacement into the club earlier this week? Regarding booing Nolan - I think with him it is more isolated. Some fans hate him, some like him, some are non-plus either way.
enzo gambaro Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 For me it has to be circa ?8m Nolan's last 100 Premier League games have gleaned ten goals, thirty three bookings and a sending off. Can you imagine the furore on here if we paid that kind of money for a player with that record?
jules_darby Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 i read elsewhere nolan is only 26 is this right ? thougth he was older. given he has been in and around the team since his teenage years it is inevitable at some point his form would slump. my point is that the 'fans' getting on his back ,which they have, can only make this slump lionger and deeper. i think the move will be good for him and therefore good for newcastle i fail to see how helping a rival team out is worth the risk. whatever people think of him he has been a regular in the first team, we have a very small squad and losing a player who can conribute to the first team worries me. he has also always conducted himself very well arround the fans. i think we will miss him more than people realise. for me this is a sign of megson wanting to get rid of the old guard, which if it works is fair enough, but i would like to see some quality signings first. my question jules....if we sell nolan are we more or less likely to stay up ? i know you may argue 'depends what we do with the money' but given we already had money available according to gartside i am not sure what good can come from selling him. But we don't know how much money we had/have available - this aint just about the ?4.5m either - I'd guess his wages aren't insignificant. I also think folk are a little confused on this one... One train of thought is that Nolan is pissed off with the fans booing Megson/him/the team so asks to leave. That wouldn't fit in with the proposition that Megson is getting rid of the old guard as Nolan is sticking up for him I think he's been a bit part player for us in terms of contribution and would assume that's the reason we are in the market for selling him - I don't buy that Megson is shifting "Sam's players" or that this is a reaction to the fans acting like idiots As I said, I'll reserve judgement until Feb
MickyD Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Nolan's last 100 Premier League games have gleaned ten goals, thirty three bookings and a sending off. Can you imagine the furore on here if we paid that kind of money for a player with that record? That all depends. 10 goals in 100 games means f?ck all as a statistic. If you analysed it further and asked the question, where did the goals come, what was the result of him scoring, etc. then it may paint a different picture. Example: His two goals in seperate matches at Old Trafford, although a while ago, were match winners. Without either of them we'd have drawn. Find a website that lists his 10 goals and let's have a look how important they've been. I'm willing to bet that without his goals, certainly last season, we'd have been relegated.
glasgowwhite Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Are we all really naive enough to think Nolan would leave because of us 'pathetic' 'boo boys'? Water off a ducks back to these lads IMO when they earn ?20k+ per week do they really bother that much what we think? Us fans will not drive players out of the club but the opportunities a new contract, more money may offer. Hope he stays though - top lad
Traf Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 That all depends. 10 goals in 100 games means f?ck all as a statistic. If you analysed it further and asked the question, where did the goals come, what was the result of him scoring, etc. then it may paint a different picture. Example: His two goals in seperate matches at Old Trafford, although a while ago, were match winners. Without either of them we'd have drawn. Find a website that lists his 10 goals and let's have a look how important they've been. I'm willing to bet that without his goals, certainly last season, we'd have been relegated. 1 goal this season in 22 games. In a 2-1 defeat to Northampton.
Traf Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Last season: 1 v Wigan in a 4-1 win 1 v City in a 4-2 defeat 1 v Blackburn in a 2-1 defeat 1 v Reading in a 2-0 win No vital goals there.
enzo gambaro Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I'm willing to bet that without his goals, certainly last season, we'd have been relegated. You'd lose your bet. Last season's goals: 1-1 v West Ham 2-4 v Man City 4-1 v Wigan 1-2 v Blackburn 2-0 v Reading His five previous goals: 2-1 v Fulham 1-5 v Boro 1-0 v Pompey 2-1 v Fulham 2-0 v Sunderland
HoldensHairdo Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Megson interview on Sky Sports website confirming Nolan deal echoes the thread about 'Megson in Mail' - he seems pretty brassed off that he hasn't been informed of the transfer !!! If thats true then that's fcuking piss poor.... can honestly see Meggo getting to the end of his tether with all this going on - boo boys, transfer dealings behind his back... i know i wouldnt stand for it.... COME ON WHITES - PULL YOUR FINGER OUT OR WE'RE DOWN !!!!
forever white Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Megson interview on Sky Sports website confirming Nolan deal echoes the thread about 'Megson in Mail' - he seems pretty brassed off that he hasn't been informed of the transfer !!! If thats true then that's fcuking piss poor.... can honestly see Meggo getting to the end of his tether with all this going on - boo boys, transfer dealings behind his back... i know i wouldnt stand for it.... COME ON WHITES - PULL YOUR FINGER OUT OR WE'RE DOWN !!!! I think from that we can assume there hasnt been a player lined up to replace him. I like most on here feel this has all happened a little too sudden. I have had the pleasure of chatting to him a couple of times over the years at the players of the year dinners. He seems like a genuine lad with a lot of time for Bolton.
desperado Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 We get back to the ingredients of what makes a LEGEND. Playing 300+ games for your one and only club in this player power era is a very strong one. Scoring some memorable and quality goals along the way is another. Being captain of the club from such a young age during one of the most over-achieving periods in the clubs history is another. But for me, there is something missing. Is it his lack of all round quality, his current form, his lack of creative input of late. I wish him all the best and it will be strange to see him in any other shirt than ours but the time is right for him to move on. We need to move on and Nolan needs the move to get his career restarted. Finally, for me though Nolan does not cut it as a BWFC Legend. I think he is more iconic than legendary. He has epitomised all things Bolton Wanderers over just short of a decade. Is it time and is it right? I still can't make up my mind, 4.5 mill for an out of form player seem good value to me, but do we lose more in terms of his drive, leadership passion and commitment? We can never quite put our finger on it but for me we play better when he is in the team. It's no coincidence that our run of form to keep us up last year coincided with him returning to the side. It's Megson's biggest gamble yet, get it right and replacements fill the void with some good performances and results, he might win the majority over. Get it wrong and our results + performances are poor not only will the doom merchants who voiced themselves on Wednesday be unhappy but add to that the mainstream fans who hold Nolan as the most iconic figure the club has had in the premiership. We may get a quick answer to all of this, which is perhaps what Megson wants.
exiledwhite2 Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Mayhe we play better when he's in the team because the alternatives are so god damn awful?
MickyD Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 You'd lose your bet. Must start posting tips on Traf's bit of this site.
HomerJay Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 i guarentee all the idiots that abused nolan in the past, will not abuse megson for selling him. nailed on fact with a big shiney red nob on top!
tylswhite Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 If Nolan is sold and Megson doesnt manage to get anybody in to replace him then id say most fans will be extremely pissed off and he will get a lot more shit than he is getting now.
MickyD Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 One thing not really mentioned. Why has BSA not come in for him? I'd bet KN would rather play for him than Joe Kinnear any day.
Guest Firthy Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Gutted to see Nolan go. The disease of delusion has spread fast amongst our support, and this is one of the consequences. Well done idiots. Congratulations on perfecting the art of the tantrum to get your own ill-thought way. Relegation looms, and I feel so despondent at the moment I'm not particular bothered. Hopefully the morons will clear off next season when we're in the Championship and we can get back to having a majority of actual supporters rather than spoiled brats.
exiledwhite2 Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Gutted to see Nolan go. The disease of delusion has spread fast amongst our support, and this is one of the consequences. Well done idiots. Congratulations on perfecting the art of the tantrum to get your own ill-thought way. Relegation looms, and I feel so despondent at the moment I'm not particular bothered. Hopefully the morons will clear off next season when we're in the Championship and we can get back to having a majority of actual supporters rather than spoiled brats. Nonsense He's gone because we wanted the money, or because HE wanted the money, or because we wanted rid, or he wanted out He definitely hasn't left because of the fans
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