luczka Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Wheater can get in that England squad, then why cant Cahill. Im not saying wheater is a bad player, but Cahill is not worse than him. As Ani said, the point of friendlies is to possibly try fringe players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Nt Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 (edited) No, he went for ?30 Million ! Right so lets agree that ?6m for a player of the same caliber is RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!! Edited May 11, 2009 by Gaz Nt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylswhite Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 He is not though, you need to prove it, you dont just get given a place in the England because potentially one day he could be better than other players !!! Everyone can see he has talent, but take your white tinted specs off and really think about it. Have you at all looked defensively solid this season ??? any more than any other year ??? You have not been hard at all to beat this season, easier than I have ever seen you in the prem. Now, how can a team with such a soft defence even attempt to boast one of the best defenders in the prem !?!?! Good he may be, class one day he may be.....but now, their are 6 or 7 better English Center backs. He isnt potentially better, he is Better NOW! And that is all down to him? Dont talk utter shit. If it wasnt for him we would of taken a few more beatings and definatley conceded a lot more goals. The lad is class now and will get even better, the sky is the limit for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 11, 2009 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2009 His potential is enormous and I honestly think he will become one of Englands greatest ever centre backs one day. he ain't that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 11, 2009 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2009 Right so lets agree that ?6m for a player of the same caliber is RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!! he ain't in the same caliber as ferdinand was at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Pablo, you have done very well not to mention so far you think that 2 better defenders are everton players.... the point about cahill for me is that surely it is worth seeing how he looks in the squad, what does capello learn by having upson in a squad? terry and rio will be first choice centre halves, so noe is arguing cahill should be playing but surely part of the reason for having a squad for friendlies in particular is to have a look at fringe players not always for the actula games but also how they measure up against the very top players. for cahill it is hard to say how good he is given the players he is supported by. what would be lost by including him in a squad? jagielka injured, carragher retired, woodgate injury prone, upson see woodgate, I agree with everything you say, my response is to the over the top comments about how he its a disgrace him NOT being in the England squad. Lescott and Jags are without doubt better players than Cahill, but its taken a player of the year season for Jags to get in that squad, likewise with Lescott previously, they didn't just walk in. Upson is quality, but slow, and he is not far off 30, and only now is he getting England chances. Rio and Terry are by far the best 2, then you have 4 or 5 that are about as good as each other. Then you have Cahill, Davies, Micah Richards, Mancienne that fit into the "potential" group. Potential is not enough to be put in the squad, match winning performances week in,week out is what Cahill needs to be delivering, for a full season, even more so than if he was at a bigger Club. Thats the unfortunate truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Right so lets agree that ?6m for a player of the same caliber is RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!! Thats the funniest thing I have ever read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Quality Player and I can honestly see him still playing for us in 2 years time max. His potential is enormous and I honestly think he will become one of Englands greatest ever centre backs one day. That's some statement that is! - I'm not sure he's quite that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I agree with everything you say, my response is to the over the top comments about how he its a disgrace him NOT being in the England squad. Lescott and Jags are without doubt better players than Cahill, but its taken a player of the year season for Jags to get in that squad, likewise with Lescott previously, they didn't just walk in. Upson is quality, but slow, and he is not far off 30, and only now is he getting England chances. Rio and Terry are by far the best 2, then you have 4 or 5 that are about as good as each other. Then you have Cahill, Davies, Micah Richards, Mancienne that fit into the "potential" group. Potential is not enough to be put in the squad, match winning performances week in,week out is what Cahill needs to be delivering, for a full season, even more so than if he was at a bigger Club. Thats the unfortunate truth. I think the wheater comparison probably highlights the frustration. 'boro have a reputation for developping players, so he has found his way into the england squad. we have a different reputation so cahill does nt get in, the sad thing is this means to increase the chance of recognition it is not unreasonable to think cahill has to think about moving at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Nt Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 he ain't that good He is he ain't in the same caliber as ferdinand was at the time He Is Thats the funniest thing I have ever read! You need to get out more. Watch The Inbetweeners... U might need to sit over your (stolen) potty whilst doing so though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I think the wheater comparison probably highlights the frustration. 'boro have a reputation for developping players, so he has found his way into the england squad. we have a different reputation so cahill does nt get in, the sad thing is this means to increase the chance of recognition it is not unreasonable to think cahill has to think about moving at some point. Wheater had one call up, what a year ago ?? and has not had a sniff since....! Not a bad player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THunter Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Here fishy, fishy Cahill is better than Upson so he should be getting a chance in the squad at least imo. Indeed he is. Upson's a big tart. Kevin Davies had him in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Indeed he is. Upson's a big tart. Kevin Davies had him in tears. But no defender in the world, at international level is going to come up againest anyone like Davies to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted May 11, 2009 Site Supporter Share Posted May 11, 2009 note to wenger, cahill is complete shite, dont bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylswhite Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I agree with everything you say, my response is to the over the top comments about how he its a disgrace him NOT being in the England squad. Lescott and Jags are without doubt better players than Cahill, but its taken a player of the year season for Jags to get in that squad, likewise with Lescott previously, they didn't just walk in. Upson is quality, but slow, and he is not far off 30, and only now is he getting England chances. Rio and Terry are by far the best 2, then you have 4 or 5 that are about as good as each other. Then you have Cahill, Davies, Micah Richards, Mancienne that fit into the "potential" group. Potential is not enough to be put in the squad, match winning performances week in,week out is what Cahill needs to be delivering, for a full season, even more so than if he was at a bigger Club. Thats the unfortunate truth. Davies and Richards arent fit to lace his boots! Not seen enough of Mancienne to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambwfc Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 note to wenger, cahill is complete shite, dont bother. While O'Brien has been an immovable rock in our defence. Wenger sign him up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 While O'Brien has been an immovable rock in our defence. Wenger sign him up now. don't be silly, Shittu is the one that Wenger ought to be looking at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 11, 2009 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2009 im pretty confident theres going to be a sale fee in the deal we struck last year and if its 8 million i'd not be shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxy Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 (edited) Cahill is easily Boltons best player. He stinks of the John Terry mould. We should make him MR. Bolton and guilt that fucker into staying. EDIT - Then sell him to newcastle after he gets fat after having a kid and gets the fans back up! Edited May 11, 2009 by coxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Cahill is easily Boltons best player. He stinks of the John Terry mould. We should make him MR. Bolton and guilt that fucker into staying. EDIT - Then sell him to newcastle after he gets fat after having a kid and gets the fans back up! f?ck that he wont fancy being hounded out of the club ala Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted May 11, 2009 Site Supporter Share Posted May 11, 2009 Cahill is easily Boltons best player. He stinks of the John Terry mould. We should make him MR. Bolton and guilt that fucker into staying. EDIT - Then sell him to newcastle after he gets fat after having a kid and gets the fans back up! id say he was more of a rio (spit) ferdinand type player. pure footballing centre half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leedswhite Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 A rare common theme on this thread - agreement that we do have a decent player. My view is that he is quality, he coasted through the game on Saturday, made everything he did look effortless and was head and shoulders above the other players on the pitch. Good enough for England - in my opinion yes. I posted after the West Ham game that whilst SKD terrorised Upson, Carlotn Cole hardly had a kick - no comparison in my book, Cahill is the superior defender. Value has got to be ?10m+, but have a feeling that at the time he signed there was a clause in the contract that put a minimum fee of ?10m if he left, and that Cahill was the confident in his own ability he believed that this would not restrict his ambitions. Long term contract would help, but as we know these days if the big boys come in, then there is not much you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Is it me or is it Paper talk, as usual for this time of year, with regards to probably the best of our team. Last year it was Nolan Year before it was Anelka Before that it was Stelios etc... etc.. etc.. That is all I am saying it paper hype. If it happens then so what - he will be replaced by probably someone from our academy (cheap and trained to Megson style of the game), plus create even more "profit" for the club. BUT, I can guarantee nothing will happen with regards to Cahill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Is it me or is it Paper talk, as usual for this time of year, with regards to probably the best of our team. Last year it was Nolan Year before it was Anelka Before that it was Stelios etc... etc.. etc.. That is all I am saying it paper hype. If it happens then so what - he will be replaced by probably someone from our academy (cheap and trained to Megson style of the game), plus create even more "profit" for the club. BUT, I can guarantee nothing will happen with regards to Cahill. Don't you fancy him, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchWhites Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Don't you fancy him, then? no, just MG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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