kent_white Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 'A lot was made of me changing the style.` 'People might not see a great deal of change to be perfectly honest but what I wanted to do was bring in more of the same with the intention of being able to do certain things better. 'We`re not going to suddenly start playing any differently - the idea is to play the same system, the same style, just with a bit more quality.`
Ani Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 'A lot was made of me changing the style.` 'People might not see a great deal of change to be perfectly honest but what I wanted to do was bring in more of the same with the intention of being able to do certain things better. 'We`re not going to suddenly start playing any differently - the idea is to play the same system, the same style, just with a bit more quality.` He wants to do what we do better rather than trying to do something else. So no sammy lee overnight revolution.
Spider Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 'A lot was made of me changing the style.` 'People might not see a great deal of change to be perfectly honest but what I wanted to do was bring in more of the same with the intention of being able to do certain things better. 'We`re not going to suddenly start playing any differently - the idea is to play the same system, the same style, just with a bit more quality.` I make of that that the usual suspects on here will have a field day (Holly Natashahead, Tonycee etc) whilst the rest will assume it means that he saw what happened when Sammy lee tried it and is approaching things with a sensible, long term attitude. Personally, I think he could throw pots of ?50 notes into all the stands on a a match day and most people would still want him burned at the stake.
kent_white Posted August 11, 2009 Author Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) In a word Fuck All, That's two words, but I take your point. I'm not Megson bashing here - but just seem to remember him saying he was planning on us playing 'more attractive' football this season. Was looking forward to seeing us start to make the transition this over the next few months. Doesn't look like that's going to happen any time soon judging by his latest comments. Edited August 11, 2009 by kent_white
superjohnmcginlay Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 That's two words, but I take your point. I'm not Megson bashing here - but just seem to remember him saying he was planning on us playing 'more attractive' football this season. Was looking forward to seeing us start to make the transition this season. Doesn't look like that's going to happen any time soon judging by his latest comments. But you dont know that, we will do what BWFC do but be better doing it, it won t be the champagne football of Brazil if thats what your eluding too
Boothy Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 Well if he said he was after changing the way we play, it's a back track. He is merely after improving the way we play. Understandable. I can't remember the quotes or what was said at the time but I remember a big deal was made of us changing to a more 'attractive' style of football, whether from the man himself or the press etc. What he is saying is fine, and obviously the right direction [imo] for Bolton Wanderers, however, it does look like he's copped out per se.
Spider Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 Seriously, we can never expect to play total football. The sooner people wise up and start backing the club to trophy wins against the top4, a decent cup run and a top ten finish the better. The top clubs are spending more on 1 player than we have on all our players EVER - we are not competing with them but we are still dining at the same table with a chance to bring them down a peg or two when we play them, which is fine by me. A cup run would be good this season and I will not be impressed with Meggers if he doesn't make a fair stab at one, however. That's my only caveat this season.
Warby78 Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 I think what was first said by Megson (i won't say quoted) was probably taken a wee bit out of context and twisted to suit. I don't expect us to play like Arsenal, and will be more than happy retaining posesion a bit more and looking more solid at the back, which by the way Megson has addressed. although i would like to see Bodde and A N Other before Friday.
Boothy Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 FWIW, I don't think there's many Wanderer's fans who have delusions of grandeur to the degree of us competing with the top 4 (Top 6 now is it?). You can't blame people for wanting to strive for better can you? Only the realists and pessimists will ever be satisfied at the Reebok. Fact.
HomerJay Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 i watched the hibs game again last night, and to be fair, the style had changed a hell of a lot more than i noticed on the day.
kent_white Posted August 11, 2009 Author Posted August 11, 2009 I think what was first said by Megson (i won't say quoted) was probably taken a wee bit out of context and twisted to suit.I don't expect us to play like Arsenal, and will be more than happy retaining posesion a bit more and looking more solid at the back, which by the way Megson has addressed. although i would like to see Bodde and A N Other before Friday. From the sounds of things Bodde would be a great buy if it comes off and he stays injury free. My mates a Barnsley fan and reckons he's one of the stand out players from the Championship. He wasn't in the squad for Swansea on Saturday if memory serves, so hopefully somethings afoot. What's this A N Other like? Is he on Youtube?
kent_white Posted August 11, 2009 Author Posted August 11, 2009 i watched the hibs game again last night, and to be fair, the style had changed a hell of a lot more than i noticed on the day. I've not managed to see it on TV yet. I'm in the same boat as you. Couldn't really notice any real change in style at the game itself. What did you notice watching it on tele?
superjohnmcginlay Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) From the sounds of things Bodde would be a great buy if it comes off and he stays injury free. My mates a Barnsley fan and reckons he's one of the stand out players from the Championship. He wasn't in the squad for Swansea on Saturday if memory serves, so hopefully somethings afoot. What's this A N Other like? Is he on Youtube? I refer you to the link I posted in the transfer section at the top regarding Bodde and as stated elsewhere if he were that good how come his old manager hasnt gone in for him? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ity/8188391.stm Edited August 11, 2009 by superjohnmcginlay
Rembrandt Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 From the sounds of things Bodde would be a great buy if it comes off and he stays injury free. My mates a Barnsley fan and reckons he's one of the stand out players from the Championship. He wasn't in the squad for Swansea on Saturday if memory serves, so hopefully somethings afoot. What's this A N Other like? Is he on Youtube? He's recovering from a serious injury, I understand.
kent_white Posted August 11, 2009 Author Posted August 11, 2009 He's recovering from a serious injury, I understand. I thought he was over that already, but you're probably right!
Didledee Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 But you dont know that, we will do what BWFC do but be better doing it, it won t be the champagne football of Brazil if thats what your eluding too If we do change our style of play , wouldn't we then not get the best out of K.Davies? We play to his strenght's and it brought us some vital goals last season . If we played a more tiki taka/easier on the eye game we would need more flair players , taking out players strenght's that suit our current style might not be good news in the long run. There was a move against Hibs , we're we did a nice little 1 touch passing combination [about 6 quick passes on the floor - pass and move] that looked better than anything Barca and Spain produce This season if can get M.Davies and Lee Chung Yong's passing ability to create more chances for Elmander , Muamba playing consistently like he did for England u21's and Taylor and Davies doing what they do best then we could be up for a great season . S.Davis looked a better passer against Hibs than i though he was . Our defence looks solid , so hopefully the midfield have more confidence in them , so they dont track back has much , leaving us with more players in positive areas of the field when we are attacking . We need more players closer to the frontmen so we can have more goal scoring chances [sometimes K.Davies plays as right winger and Elmander doesn't have players 10 yards close to help him] To change style would take a lot of time , different players , better players . There isn't the likes of okocha or Djorkaeff anymore , Our midfield is our main problem but it's not bad on paper , The thing is our style is that poor especially last season that only 1 or 2 better players and a slight change in style wont make any noticeable difference , Players play the way there ability lets them , you would have to change there mentality , there training ,there game . I think most fans problem with our style is the long ball stuff , the 10 men defending a corner and our 4-5-1 defend defend defend formation and questionable tactics . I can only think of Lee Chung Yong who is different to what we had last season , imo S.Davis , Robinson Ricketts are average so won't make much difference to the 1st team [ but decent cover] therfore how can Megson expect players to play a change of style when there football game is pretty much what Bolton's style is about . [ e.g K.Davies knockdowns from long balls] And what kinda style are we talking about ? More width , more compact , on the floor passing , 4-4-2 ?
Smiffs Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 'A lot was made of me changing the style.` 'People might not see a great deal of change to be perfectly honest but what I wanted to do was bring in more of the same with the intention of being able to do certain things better. 'We`re not going to suddenly start playing any differently - the idea is to play the same system, the same style, just with a bit more quality.` Its gingerese for 'we've got enough players to play 10-1-0 properly now'.
Danny G Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 Heres the before and after quotes 11th June 'I would like to change the style that we play as I felt that was one of the reasons the club struggled last season. 'We had to take it back a little bit, get the results at times and not play in the way we would have liked. 'There were some really good performances, but some really dour, grinding performances where we've got results. 'But it was all about getting those results.` 10th August 'A lot was made of me changing the style.` 'People might not see a great deal of change to be perfectly honest but what I wanted to do was bring in more of the same with the intention of being able to do certain things better. 'We`re not going to suddenly start playing any differently - the idea is to play the same system, the same style, just with a bit more quality.` Handing ammunition to your opponents is one thing, but Megson has given the keys to the gun cupboard to his foes. from vital football
HomerJay Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) I've not managed to see it on TV yet. I'm in the same boat as you. Couldn't really notice any real change in style at the game itself. What did you notice watching it on tele? we played some really good stuff (on the deck), especially at the start of the 2nd half. in fact i think the only player to 'punt it' was knight Edited August 11, 2009 by HomerJay
superjohnmcginlay Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 If we do change our style of play , wouldn't we then not get the best out of K.Davies? We play to his strenght's and it brought us some vital goals last season . If we played a more tiki taka/easier on the eye game we would need more flair players , taking out players strenght's that suit our current style might not be good news in the long run. There was a move against Hibs , we're we did a nice little 1 touch passing combination [about 6 quick passes on the floor - pass and move] that looked better than anything Barca and Spain produce This season if can get M.Davies and Lee Chung Yong's passing ability to create more chances for Elmander , Muamba playing consistently like he did for England u21's and Taylor and Davies doing what they do best then we could be up for a great season . S.Davis looked a better passer against Hibs than i though he was . Our defence looks solid , so hopefully the midfield have more confidence in them , so they dont track back has much , leaving us with more players in positive areas of the field when we are attacking . We need more players closer to the frontmen so we can have more goal scoring chances [sometimes K.Davies plays as right winger and Elmander doesn't have players 10 yards close to help him] To change style would take a lot of time , different players , better players . There isn't the likes of okocha or Djorkaeff anymore , Our midfield is our main problem but it's not bad on paper , The thing is our style is that poor especially last season that only 1 or 2 better players and a slight change in style wont make any noticeable difference , Players play the way there ability lets them , you would have to change there mentality , there training ,there game . I think most fans problem with our style is the long ball stuff , the 10 men defending a corner and our 4-5-1 defend defend defend formation and questionable tactics . I can only think of Lee Chung Yong who is different to what we had last season , imo S.Davis , Robinson Ricketts are average so won't make much difference to the 1st team [ but decent cover] therfore how can Megson expect players to play a change of style when there football game is pretty much what Bolton's style is about . [ e.g K.Davies knockdowns from long balls] And what kinda style are we talking about ? More width , more compact , on the floor passing , 4-4-2 ? I wasnt suggesting we chnaged our style, I actually agree with some of what you have put
Didledee Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 I wasnt suggesting we chnaged our style, I actually agree with some of what you have put I didn't mean to quote you . sorry . Pressed the wrong reply button .
Didledee Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 Expect lots of 0-0 results then ! I have a controversial opinion that 0-0's should = 0 points, would give more incentive to get goals. But on the flip side i know 0-0's against teams like the top 4 are decent , it's just parking the bus football is not very entertaining.
nomore352 Posted August 11, 2009 Posted August 11, 2009 After watching the Hibs game I was pleasantly surprised with the style of play. We generally played 4 4 2 using Rick G & Taylor as attacking wide men. Passing was much better & long balls reduced. The problem is that now we must take a positive attitude into every league game. That is where Megson failed miserably last season. We now have a team capable of pushing for a top 8 place but GM has to believe it! I will reserved further judgement until after we have stuffed Rafa's men.
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