bolty58 Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Rather than reply to specific posts, I'll just take on Casino first and then the young Che next (oh, and Ani with his banana comment ). Casino - there are people who frequent this site who have had the same mutual West Indian friends (note the plural) as me for over 40 years so your glib comment is not appreciated. Interestingly, one was once racially abused by an officer of the law on Oldham railway station and we thought it was out of order then and this was upheld in court. Do not get the wrong impression here. This was 30 odd years ago so there's nowt new in the zoo here. I hate all that b***k b******d shiyte as much as the next bloke. Where my problem lies is that this whole PC racism thing as gone way too far the other way to a point where a parallel can now be drawn where a girl could cry 'rape' to get some bloke in the absolute shit because of all sorts of reasons when no rape had actually taken place. All it seems to take now is someone to label someone else a racist and they seem to be pronounced guilty and pilloried with little chance of defending themselves. One bloke on here has already suggested that Suarez should be thrown out of the game FFS!!! Denied a chance to earn his living in his area of expertise because of some accusation. Youri - you are a teacher? Reinforces my opinion of them then. Left leaning gits indoctrinating the next generation. Ani (and NB) - give it a rest eh? Fcuking bananas on the pitch? An asinine comment as I'd like to kick any fcuker who did that up the arse just as much as you would. Quote
bolty58 Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Doesn't even bear thinkin what state football would be in if yer wonderful self ran the FA. Blatter thought racism should be solved with a handshake and look at the dire state fifa is in with him in charge. Also could you explain how thinking racism should be punished in the game makes me PC or a Trotskyist? For a teacher, you don't seem too bright son. The commie jibes relate to other threads in which you appear to have made pro communist comments. Get used to it. What on Earth would make you think I would want to run the FA? Prefer to run sweet FA me. Quote
ZiggyStardust Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 All it seems to take now is someone to label someone else a racist and they seem to be pronounced guilty and pilloried with little chance of defending themselves. One bloke on here has already suggested that Suarez should be thrown out of the game FFS!!! Denied a chance to earn his living in his area of expertise because of some accusation. Hasn't Suarez admitted doing it, so its more than just an accusation. His defense that it's a cultural thing just makes a mockery out of decency TBH. 8 games seems excessive, but that will be only be open to question when we see the punishment Terry receives IF he is also found guilty. Quote
superjohnmcginlay Posted December 21, 2011 Author Posted December 21, 2011 Stewart Lee's take on football racism, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CqbgMX5AmMY#! Quote
Zico Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 re: John Terry Phil McNulty of the BBC just tweeted: "Breaking news. CPS authorises John Terry prosecution" SKY "CPS says John Terry will be charged with raciallyabusing Queens Park Rangers player Anton Ferdinand" massive ban pending for Terry then Quote
Guest Frandsen08 Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 re: John Terry Phil McNulty of the BBC just tweeted: "Breaking news. CPS authorises John Terry prosecution" SKY "CPS says John Terry will be charged with raciallyabusing Queens Park Rangers player Anton Ferdinand" massive ban pending for Terry then splendid. Quote
HomerJay Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) months rather than weeks hopefully. 20m for cahill please. many thankings. Edited December 21, 2011 by HomerJay Quote
superjohnmcginlay Posted December 21, 2011 Author Posted December 21, 2011 Feb 1st he is court, so does this mean he can face a ban from the fa now or after then? Quote
no balls Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 I wouldn't feel comfortable reading that screen shot if I were a Liverpool fan. As my father used to say "Build a wall, and don't bother with a gate". Quote
Ani Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Rather than reply to specific posts, I'll just take on Casino first and then the young Che next (oh, and Ani with his banana comment ). Casino - there are people who frequent this site who have had the same mutual West Indian friends (note the plural) as me for over 40 years so your glib comment is not appreciated. Interestingly, one was once racially abused by an officer of the law on Oldham railway station and we thought it was out of order then and this was upheld in court. Do not get the wrong impression here. This was 30 odd years ago so there's nowt new in the zoo here. I hate all that b***k b******d shiyte as much as the next bloke. Where my problem lies is that this whole PC racism thing as gone way too far the other way to a point where a parallel can now be drawn where a girl could cry 'rape' to get some bloke in the absolute shit because of all sorts of reasons when no rape had actually taken place. All it seems to take now is someone to label someone else a racist and they seem to be pronounced guilty and pilloried with little chance of defending themselves. One bloke on here has already suggested that Suarez should be thrown out of the game FFS!!! Denied a chance to earn his living in his area of expertise because of some accusation. Youri - you are a teacher? Reinforces my opinion of them then. Left leaning gits indoctrinating the next generation. Ani (and NB) - give it a rest eh? Fcuking bananas on the pitch? An asinine comment as I'd like to kick any fcuker who did that up the arse just as much as you would. Skippy, My comment was extreme to make a point. The fact is that Suarez has been found guilty of making racial comments whilst working. It has to be dealt with, I am confused in the incident (i do know who this refers to) above the copper made a comment and had to pay the price. Why should a footballer be any different, if you are saying you are not convinced by the evidence I am 100% supportive of you any such allegation must be treated seriously but that does not alter the fact that the allegations must be proven. He has not denied making comments he is saying he was not aware it was wrong. But ignorance is no defence in the law. To use the rape comparison it is not like a girl crying rape and with no evidence someone being sent away, it is like the bloke saying 'wheere i come from it happens all the time.' Quote
HomerJay Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Skippy, My comment was extreme to make a point. The fact is that Suarez has been found guilty of making racial comments whilst working. It has to be dealt with, I am confused in the incident (i do know who this refers to) above the copper made a comment and had to pay the price. Why should a footballer be any different, if you are saying you are not convinced by the evidence I am 100% supportive of you any such allegation must be treated seriously but that does not alter the fact that the allegations must be proven. He has not denied making comments he is saying he was not aware it was wrong. But ignorance is no defence in the law. To use the rape comparison it is not like a girl crying rape and with no evidence someone being sent away, it is like the bloke saying 'wheere i come from it happens all the time.' in one. Quote
Traf Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Liverpool fans haven't took it well: Can't see the image. Quote
SpiritofBurnden Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Hasn't Suarez admitted doing it, so its more than just an accusation. His defense that it's a cultural thing just makes a mockery out of decency TBH. 8 games seems excessive, but that will be only be open to question when we see the punishment Terry receives IF he is also found guilty. Yes he's admitted it. Did it more than once as well apparently. If that's the case, he can hardly say it's a 'cultural' thing because he would have been aware of the offence he caused the first time he said it. That might also explain why the ban is longer than usual. Quote
superjohnmcginlay Posted December 21, 2011 Author Posted December 21, 2011 The luverpool players have issued a statement now Quote
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Remember Diouf spitting at Middlesbrough fans back in the day, and his reasoning was that it's ok in Senegal to do that. You're not in Senegal now sunshine, you can't spit here. Same goes for Suarez and his comment. When in Rome, and all that... Quote
Guest Blixa Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 The luverpool players have issued a statement now Surprised they didn't goosestep onto the pitch when wearing those t-shirts. Quote
HomerJay Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Seem he is gonna appeal. Double the ban! Quote
HomerJay Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16301357.stm Match of the Day pundit Alan Hansen has apologised after describing black players as "coloured" during Wednesday's programme Quote
Guest Frandsen08 Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16301357.stm as long as he didnt say negritos i think he'll be reet Quote
enzo gambaro Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16301357.stm That's about the least offensive thing Hansen has had to say in a while. Quote
jayjayoghani Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 I remember Saint & Greavsie from the late 80's early 90's, and there was a feature on South African football. Must have been when they were ending apartheid. Remember Ian St John closing the thing and said.... "there's great potential in SA football. The team discipline comes from the whites, and flair from the blacks" What punditry. Quote
Youri Djorkaeff Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) Rather than reply to specific posts, I'll just take on Casino first and then the young Che next (oh, and Ani with his banana comment ). Casino - there are people who frequent this site who have had the same mutual West Indian friends (note the plural) as me for over 40 years so your glib comment is not appreciated. Interestingly, one was once racially abused by an officer of the law on Oldham railway station and we thought it was out of order then and this was upheld in court. Do not get the wrong impression here. This was 30 odd years ago so there's nowt new in the zoo here. I hate all that b***k b******d shiyte as much as the next bloke. Where my problem lies is that this whole PC racism thing as gone way too far the other way to a point where a parallel can now be drawn where a girl could cry 'rape' to get some bloke in the absolute shit because of all sorts of reasons when no rape had actually taken place. All it seems to take now is someone to label someone else a racist and they seem to be pronounced guilty and pilloried with little chance of defending themselves. One bloke on here has already suggested that Suarez should be thrown out of the game FFS!!! Denied a chance to earn his living in his area of expertise because of some accusation. Youri - you are a teacher? Reinforces my opinion of them then. Left leaning gits indoctrinating the next generation. Ani (and NB) - give it a rest eh? Fcuking bananas on the pitch? An asinine comment as I'd like to kick any fcuker who did that up the arse just as much as you would. Im not a teacher, just work part-time in a school. Probably go into teaching in a couple of years. Not sure what your getting at anymore, ive made a few points as to why i think Suarez should be punished along with the majority who posted on this thread and apparently im a "commie, left leaning git and not bright" for having a bit of common sense. Try telling me why you think he should be let off instead of insulting us and i might give you the time of day. It wasn't "some accusation" against Suarez, it doesnt sound like you've made much effort to look at any of the evidence given against him. Which includes on the pitch witnesses and the lad himself admitting it but then claiming it to be a "cultural mistake". Which is some shitty excuse in my opinion. You just need to look at his history to see he can be a sneeky, cheeting little prik at times. As for him being banned from football i admitted that was an exaggeration, i think the current punishment is a good one. I dont think Suarez is a racist but he clearly said something stupid to wind Evra up in the heat of the moment. Its dirty tactics and its not PC to want it stamped out the game. As for your teacher comment, pretty pathetic to be fair. I've seen somoe inspirational and hard working ones in my time and ive seen some dire ones. You would be fuked right now if it wasn't for some of the teachers you've had in the past. Labelling them all as idiots doesn't make you sound very clever mate Edited December 22, 2011 by Youri Djorkaeff Quote
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