derek smalls Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Without getting into Call my Bluff territory it's also a tribe of people from the Andaman Islandsin the Indian Ocean. just spat my tea out reading that haha I`ve always been a little uncomfy with this kind of thing. If a black person refers to another black person in that way its ok? if a black person refers to a white person in that way its ok? if a white person refers to a black person in that way he should be flogged and hung upside down from his genitals and make a public apology on bbc news? theres no need for it. full stop. but that scenario says that black people are lesser mortals than white people and we musn`t remind them of it which in itself is a terrible contradiction n`est pas? a reet can of worms in`t it. dare say I`ll be banned for my extreme racist views Quote
Zico Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 just spat my tea out reading that haha I`ve always been a little uncomfy with this kind of thing. If a black person refers to another black person in that way its ok? if a black person refers to a white person in that way its ok? if a white person refers to a black person in that way he should be flogged and hung upside down from his genitals and make a public apology on bbc news? theres no need for it. full stop. but that scenario says that black people are lesser mortals than white people and we musn`t remind them of it which in itself is a terrible contradiction n`est pas? a reet can of worms in`t it. dare say I`ll be banned for my extreme racist views your views ain't racist, they're just a bit ignorant we've been here many, many, many times before but the fine line between racism and ignorance is very often context Quote
derek smalls Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) your views ain't racist, they're just a bit ignorant we've been here many, many, many times before but the fine line between racism and ignorance is very often context it was more a measure of the extremes of the comparison rather than the comparison itself suarez defence is ridiculous and he should be thoroughly embarresed as should the entire liverpool team but what is equally ridiculous is the extreme reaction of plenty of people on here and elsewhere it reminds me of the `you can`t say bomb on a plane` sketch off Meet the Parents (disclaimer:- referring to the reaction, NOT the incident) Edited December 22, 2011 by derek smalls Quote
Carlos Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 your views ain't racist, they're just a bit ignorant we've been here many, many, many times before but the fine line between racism and ignorance is very often context Bigot Smalls? Quote
Whites man Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 JT & Saurez can't be racists, they hold black babies. Daily Mail If the papers are doing this stuff for real then Private Eye won't be in business much longer. Quote
bolty58 Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 Im not a teacher, just work part-time in a school. Probably go into teaching in a couple of years. Not sure what your getting at anymore, ive made a few points as to why i think Suarez should be punished along with the majority who posted on this thread and apparently im a "commie, left leaning git and not bright" for having a bit of common sense. Try telling me why you think he should be let off instead of insulting us and i might give you the time of day. It wasn't "some accusation" against Suarez, it doesnt sound like you've made much effort to look at any of the evidence given against him. Which includes on the pitch witnesses and the lad himself admitting it but then claiming it to be a "cultural mistake". Which is some shitty excuse in my opinion. You just need to look at his history to see he can be a sneeky, cheeting little prik at times. As for him being banned from football i admitted that was an exaggeration, i think the current punishment is a good one. I dont think Suarez is a racist but he clearly said something stupid to wind Evra up in the heat of the moment. Its dirty tactics and its not PC to want it stamped out the game. As for your teacher comment, pretty pathetic to be fair. I've seen somoe inspirational and hard working ones in my time and ive seen some dire ones. You would be fuked right now if it wasn't for some of the teachers you've had in the past. Labelling them all as idiots doesn't make you sound very clever mate As it's Christmas I'll just wish you a merry one and resume hostilities later. You certainly seem to struggle with reading and comprehension. Don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight worrying about you giving me the time of day. Quote
Youri Djorkaeff Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 As it's Christmas I'll just wish you a merry one and resume hostilities later. You certainly seem to struggle with reading and comprehension. Don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight worrying about you giving me the time of day. Hostilities ey Merry Christmas Bolty! Quote
bolty58 Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 Hostilities ey Merry Christmas Bolty! Same to you mate. Let's hope the lads deliver us 6 points in the next two matches and we can be backslapping instead of backbiting. Quote
MalcolmW Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 Haven't seen much comment about the fact that Suarez is himself a quadroon, with one black grandparent - which makes his initial comments to Evra very silly. But Evra, no longer the player he once was, and seems to goad players verbally - inciting this sort of reaction. For example the "Why do you always kick me?" comment to SKD (to which the reply was "because I don't like you", followed by another kick). Quote
athywhite1958 Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 This is how this sort of stuff is taken too far, yesterday in a pub in Athy we were having a good craic with beer and [free] food put on by the landlady, a young black lad has attached himself to some of Athy's finest and follows them about, scrounging ale as he is basically somebody who has just 'arrived', yesterday we were all having the buffet when he grabbed a handfull of sandwiches and dipped them in the big pot of coleslaw, the landlady shouted, "Oi, Ivan, you dirty monkey, put it on a plate" :: Were we wrong to tell her we were getting her a t shirt with 'Mrs Suarez' on the back She was mortified BTW Quote
Gloria Stitz Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 Every decent human can see Suarez is loathsome. I've got my views on racism. I think we're far too dramatic about it as a society - it's just one form of bullying, and it doesn't seem fair that people only bother about bullying when the subject of it is skin colour. Nobody will get banned for 8 matches for calling Peter Crouch a lanky streak of piss. Having said that it isn't an issue we can afford to ignore, and Liverpool FC has made a right show of itself wearing these T-shirts in support of the sh1thead. Thanks for reading, Gloria. Quote
athywhite1958 Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 Every decent human can see Suarez is loathsome. I've got my views on racism. I think we're far too dramatic about it as a society - it's just one form of bullying, and it doesn't seem fair that people only bother about bullying when the subject of it is skin colour. Nobody will get banned for 8 matches for calling Peter Crouch a lanky streak of piss. Having said that it isn't an issue we can afford to ignore, and Liverpool FC has made a right show of itself wearing these T-shirts in support of the sh1thead. Thanks for reading, Gloria. Condescending bitch Quote
gonzo Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 Condescending bitch thanks for posting. gonzo. Quote
athywhite1958 Posted December 25, 2011 Posted December 25, 2011 thanks for posting. gonzo. I did actually read what 'it' posted, Quote
TroySwoosh Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 well to be honest, the way Isee it is that he said something to evra that evra didn't like, I'd do that too, french munich twat Quote
Ani Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 Every decent human can see Suarez is loathsome. I've got my views on racism. I think we're far too dramatic about it as a society - it's just one form of bullying, and it doesn't seem fair that people only bother about bullying when the subject of it is skin colour. Nobody will get banned for 8 matches for calling Peter Crouch a lanky streak of piss. Having said that it isn't an issue we can afford to ignore, and Liverpool FC has made a right show of itself wearing these T-shirts in support of the sh1thead. Thanks for reading, Gloria. I agree we are far too dramatic about it, call someone names is all that this involves so lets justify it by using the excellent example of tall people being called names. Good posting I can see you adding a great deal to this site before you leave. Quote
HomerJay Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Another 1 game ban for the lovely Uruguayan. And a 20k fine for the club. Quote
superjohnmcginlay Posted December 31, 2011 Author Posted December 31, 2011 the fa written report, interesting reading http://www.thefa.com...Commission.ashx Quote
kent_white Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 the fa written report, interesting reading http://www.thefa.com...Commission.ashx My God. I bet they don't even go into this much detail with a prisoner on death row. Quote
Guest Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 118 pages and it doesn't include the phrase "Evra, being a cunt of long standing" Quote
kent_white Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 I particularly enjoyed the paragraphs pertaining to the cultural significance of referring to somebody's 'sisters cunt'. Quote
pato Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 118 pages and it doesn't include the phrase "Evra, being a cunt of long standing" I think" Man United player "is short hand version Quote
HomerJay Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 the fa written report, interesting reading http://www.thefa.com...Commission.ashx Kenny and Liverpool look really fuckin stupid now don't they! Quote
freds dad Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Is this FA speak for lying cunt? "Mr Suarez's evidence was unreliable in relation to matters of critical importance. It was, in part, inconsistent with the evidence, especially the video footage." Quote
Ani Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) scouser on radio wants liverpool to take FA to court for libel (slander ?) as they are making false accusations against the player, the club and the fans by making this desicion. he did not make much sense and reminded me of derek hatton. (it was defamation of character) Suarezs defence was that i did not know it was offensive, the desicion seems basically to be it was offensive and you should understand the culture of the country in which you live and pay ?Ms per year. i would have thought given he has admitted doing it the idea that it could be defamation of character would be hard to prove. Edited December 31, 2011 by Ani Quote
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