Read on twatter a post by Reebok Voice saying he had been in The Market Place and was suprised to see so many empty shops.

 

I think he said 20 odd closed. I went in sunday and also couldnt believe how many closed!

 

Well according to the Bolton News, another 2 are closing.

 

Top man and The body shop.

 

Place will be closed in 5 years!!

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by Horwich

I blame Marsden House on all the buy to letters that filled their flats with scutters and now they are worth fuck all due to their own actions.

Somebody told me there's loads of apartments used solely as one-woman knocking shops...

AYE

I go to Chorley for bits and bobs, the market isn't full of refugees & they have a Booths. Maybe because it's easier for me, I don't know, but it certainly doesn't feel as scutty.

The Bolton M&S may be bigger than the Middlebrook one but I'm fucked if I'm paying to park on that underground carbuncle.

 

Chorley centre is going through a mini revival

 

A few new shops are popping but not sure how long they'll last.

 

It's still not a busy place and there are many businesses up for sale there

Somebody told me there's loads of apartments used solely as one-woman knocking shops...

 

AYE

 

Got any buzzer numbers for them?

 

Another thing that's struck me, what kind of tinpot town has a train station where there's no cash machine? Or that you can't get tickets bought online printed (unless they've got one now?)

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by Youri McAnespie

you're right BTC is far too big. it needs a local authority with radical ideas to get it decent again. if large areas are best knocked down, do it

 

I wonder what they'll do with Moor Lane bus station. probably something totally lacking any imagination whatsoever, sold to the highest bidder without any thought what something else might kickstart

 

i.e. a Tesco

Got any buzzer numbers for them?

 

Another thing that's struck me, what kind of tinpot town has a train station where there's no cash machine? Or that you can't get tickets bought online printed (unless they've got one now?)

 

You can print tickets out by putting your card in the machine in the corner. There's a cash machine on Sainsbury's and Morrissons.

 

Someone I knew had a building off Moor Lane, behind the Albion. Tesco were sniffing round for years, I'd guess they are massive favourites for Moor Lane.

Moor Lane, it'll be a car park - pay and display of course...Free after 8pm on a Sunday, during Christmas 'Week' (any given week drawn at random between 30th November and 8th January).

The Cliff Morris Centre for Excellence.

 

 

How long before he's an MBE or something for services to the local community?

The Cliff Morris Centre for Excellence.

 

 

How long before he's an MBE or something for services to the local community?

 

I've a bucket of shit at the end of the garden fermenting ready for an event such as this.

 

Cunt!

...There's a cash machine on Sainsbury's and Morrissons.

 

And if you're a visitor? Or you've just been dropped off outside the Station? Or you're disabled, or old, or you're with a pushchair, or it's covered in ice and snow etc. It's f*cking tinpot, piss poor shite to direct people over the road, or worse, the one near Morrisons.

 

It makes us look shit from the moment of arrival. When they going to sort out the Church Redevelopment over the road an' all while we're at it?

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by Youri McAnespie

you're right BTC is far too big. it needs a local authority with radical ideas to get it decent again. if large areas are best knocked down, do it

 

I wonder what they'll do with Moor Lane bus station. probably something totally lacking any imagination whatsoever, sold to the highest bidder without any thought what something else might kickstart

 

i.e. a Tesco

 

I agree, there will never be a need for a TC so big ever again so they are much better condensing it but the problem is, all the shops, banks, etc are at one end of town (Debenhams/M&S/MarketHall/parking) and the train/bus station at the other.

And if you're a visitor? Or you've just been dropped off outside the Station? Or you're disabled, or old, or you're with a pushchair, or it's covered in ice and snow etc. It's f*cking tinpot, piss poor shite to direct people over the road, or worse, the one near Morrisons.

 

It makes us look shit from the moment of arrival. When they going to sort out the Church Redevelopment over the road an' all while we're at it?

 

It'll be reet when they've built the new transport hub. There'll be cash machines agogo in there.

 

Shame there's nowhere in the town to spend it.

 

In fact, I'm not sure they've really thought it through.

 

 

And if you're a visitor? Or you've just been dropped off outside the Station? Or you're disabled, or old, or you're with a pushchair, or it's covered in ice and snow etc. It's f*cking tinpot, piss poor shite to direct people over the road, or worse, the one near Morrisons.

 

It makes us look shit from the moment of arrival. When they going to sort out the Church Redevelopment over the road an' all while we're at it?

 

Loads of train stations don't have cash machines. I'm struggling to see a situation where you are at Bolton TC and NEED cash.

Getting a taxi dropping you off and having no cash.

 

Catching the 6:19 to Edinburgh, and you want to buy booze from the drinks trolley.

 

Folk who've just arrived from Manny Airport and want to take a black cab, or arrived from anywhere and want to take a black cab.

 

Kids wanting a ticket, who've not got chip and pin cards or have no money in their chip and pin accounts (but have regular 'cash' cards).

 

There's loads of situations where cash is preferable, I'm sure the cafe on the platform doesn't do chip and pin (though I could be wrong).

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by Youri McAnespie

Loads of train stations don't have cash machines. I'm struggling to see a situation where you are at Bolton TC and NEED cash.

easy if your from out of town and need cash fast cause your on your way to Marsden house to see a brass

Let's be honest, Bolton Train Station is not exactly somewhere you'd want to be for long, and I'd certainly be looking over my shoulder if I was at a cash machine

I think reducing the size of the town centre is a good idea in principle but as pointed out with the new transport hub miles away from banks etc it'd need a big move, don't think the councils upto it.. bulldoze Newport street and approach to station and build new rock complex? The worry is one side of Bolton go to middlebrook and the other to bury.. it'd take a bold move to break those habits

I think some kind of zip-wire from the top of Bank Street to the Genting Casino would be a belting idea.

Read on twatter a post by Reebok Voice saying he had been in The Market Place and was suprised to see so many empty shops.

 

I think he said 20 odd closed. I went in sunday and also couldnt believe how many closed!

 

Well according to the Bolton News, another 2 are closing.

 

Top man and The body shop.

 

Place will be closed in 5 years!!

 

Can someone find a link for the Bolton News article as Im struggling to.

We honestly believe if we'd kept it as it was, ie old style market hall with niche shops selling sweets, cotton or piping bags, probably turning over £80 a day at max, then everything would be grand? Not having that.

 

With regards to bury. What's the living situation there? What % of people live or work within 5 miles of the rock? I dare say its a lot more than Bolton. Bolton is a large town but with the majority of people living outside it. Bolton doesn't really have a large amount of people working in the town centre either.

Can someone find a link for the Bolton News article as Im struggling to.

 

http://www.thebolton...wn_centre_mall/

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by Traf

 

 

http://www.thebolton...wn_centre_mall/

 

Cheers Traf

With regards to bury. What's the living situation there? What % of people live or work within 5 miles of the rock? I dare say its a lot more than Bolton. Bolton is a large town but with the majority of people living outside it. Bolton doesn't really have a large amount of people working in the town centre either.

 

seeing as 5 miles travel in the most built up areas leaving bury gets you to either prestwich or bolton, i'm not sure of how that matters

 

prestwich will go to manc, radcliffe/bolton would previously have gone to bolton, now i'm not so sure

 

most areas within walking distance of bury tc are shit holes

 

i'd say a very similar situation to bolton

 

bolton has a big pond to fish in and its bait is shit

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by Casino

The thing with the Market Hall/Market Place - they're allowing small stalls in there again, they must be turning a small profit.

 

The likes of H+M and Zara, they're probably tied into a lease agreement, they probably expanded into Bolton to have a 'presence'. I guarantee they won't hang around though if they're losing money hand over fist. Burtons soon upped sticks and pissed off.

 

Then what? If Debenhams decided enough was enough, or M&S, that'd be it...Beyond repair.

 

I can't believe how things have declined in this town since a 'rennaissance' period around 1995/1996. Whilst Bury has been on the up. People would come into Bolton if there was a 'draw', they did in the past, they won't come in when there's fuck all there.

 

The pubs? Fucking hell, they should just get some stainless steel piss-stones from the empty pubs - stick 'em on the bars like troughs and fill them with blue-coloured ethanol - charge people £10 admission all you can drink...

Edited January 23, 201313 yr by Youri McAnespie