Members DazBob Posted February 21, 2013 Members Posted February 21, 2013 I still occasionally shop in town, but that's only because it's so handy for me. If I had to drive and pay to park then I'd more than likely go elsewhere. Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 21, 2013 Site Supporter Posted February 21, 2013 Bolton will be a shithole for as long as the council is dominated by Labour halfwits. Reap what you sow etc.. They think capital investment is getting the train to London for a march. Big town, small minds. Get that fucking idiot Morris out of there and it may just start to change. Whilst he's in there creaming off the top, it will always be a desperate swamp. Quote
jayjayoghani Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Plan for town centre; The new interchange is in progress - get them fucking shops renovated or flattened (Gateway to Bolton). Demolish the shithole Newport Street 'Parade' and move the Market there. Incentivise Victoria Square traders to move to make way for a 'food quarter' (with outside facilities) - incentivise food retailers to move there. Demolish the now 'old market' and bus station - create a vast free or low cost car park there. Try and reduce the size of the town centre by encouraging residential development on the outskirts and discouraging commerce. (I'm particularly thinking of the shitty rows like top end of Deansgate, bottom end of Bradshawgate. Reet Clifford, I'll expect a hefty sum for that consultation. Manila Brown as usual. I dont disagree. However the market is staying as they're renovating it atm BTW, that's one definite plus point for Bolton, certainly the food bit anyway. All meat, fish, fruit and veg from there. I cant believe I persisted with supermarkets for so long. Quote
Moderators Carlos Posted February 21, 2013 Moderators Posted February 21, 2013 http://www.bolton.gov.uk/sites/DocumentCentre/Documents/Current%20NDR%20empty%20property%20list.xls Quote
Moderators Horwich Posted February 21, 2013 Author Moderators Posted February 21, 2013 Are they still moving the market? Quote
no balls Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Are they still moving the market? Yes, to Horwich Quote
Whites man Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I dont disagree. However the market is staying as they're renovating it atm BTW, that's one definite plus point for Bolton, certainly the food bit anyway. All meat, fish, fruit and veg from there. I cant believe I persisted with supermarkets for so long. Bolton Market was the BBC Radio 4 Food Programme's Market of Year 2011, you don't get more middle England than that. Quote
smithills_gent Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Bolton Market was the BBC Radio 4 Food Programme's Market of Year 2011, you don't get more middle England than that. That will explain why I saw Angela Rippon and Jennie Bond on the market 18 months back. Quote
THunter Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I dont disagree. However the market is staying as they're renovating it atm BTW, that's one definite plus point for Bolton, certainly the food bit anyway. All meat, fish, fruit and veg from there. I cant believe I persisted with supermarkets for so long. Have a plus one. Quote
Breightmet Boy Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Bolton Market was the BBC Radio 4 Food Programme's Market of Year 2011, you don't get more middle England than that. I once had to take two boxes of fruit and veg to the NEC at Birmingham because the chef from Newcastle insisted on using produce from our market. It's true, and it was for the BBC. Our market, like it or lump it, is much better than any others around here. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted February 21, 2013 Moderators Posted February 21, 2013 I dont disagree. However the market is staying as they're renovating it atm BTW, that's one definite plus point for Bolton, certainly the food bit anyway. All meat, fish, fruit and veg from there. I cant believe I persisted with supermarkets for so long. where do you get your fish Quote
jayjayoghani Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 where do you get your fish grundy's generally salmon kings for erm, salmon Quote
Moderators Casino Posted February 21, 2013 Moderators Posted February 21, 2013 ah, i'll take the recommendation i find fish to be hit and miss from the market and i can't do salmon anymore since i had one come back Quote
Moderators Horwich Posted February 26, 2013 Author Moderators Posted February 26, 2013 Council are going to be offering free parking. Great news that it no longer costs you to come and visit a town full of shit or empty shop. Quote
Moderators Carlos Posted February 26, 2013 Moderators Posted February 26, 2013 Really sad that they closed all the car parks to build a beautiful grey multi storey. Anyway, well done for reacting, only 5 or so years too late. Quote
Guest Frandsen08 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 i drove down bradshawgate the other day from nelson square to the junction near world of fashion bottom of trinity st there are more places boarded up than open, its an absolute embarrassment it needs flattening the entire road. Looks like a fucking shanty town. Quote
tomski Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I should push ahead with my plan to rebuild the trotters pub, I bet land price there is at an all time low. Quote
Moderators Carlos Posted February 26, 2013 Moderators Posted February 26, 2013 From World of Fashion up to Buffet King is as bad as any town in this country, if not the whole of Europe. Clifford Morris can't hide that in a brown envelope. Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 26, 2013 Site Supporter Posted February 26, 2013 Most of the A roads in/out of Bolton are shockingly bereft of life, maybe with the exception of Deane Rd and Derby St and even they have their drawbacks. The council have got to do something about the way folk come into town to make it slightly more attractive. Quote
Guest Frandsen08 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 the church across from the train station is a sight for sore eyes too Quote
iggy Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Doing the building control for conversion of a bar on Nelson Sq. until the other week I hadn't been into bolton town centre for about 12-18 months. Stunned how empty and intimidating it seems. It's rapidly gone downhill! Such a shame when you look at town centres that have invested wisely! I visited Warrington town centre the other week and the two are worlds appart! Quote
Members DazBob Posted February 26, 2013 Members Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) Our town centre is just way too big. You think of the size of the area from, say, World of Fashion down to Ritzy, then over to Hen & Chickens and then over to Grosvenor Casino. It's huge and far too big, IMO, to sustain so many shops/businesses. It's a mammoth task for someone to sort it out. I reckon large parts just need levelling, turn 'em into a park/recreational area or something and then concentrate on turning a smaller area into something that looks and feels appealing to shoppers - like the Rock in Bury for example. Edit: As Carlos has said, from World of Fashion up to Buffet King (you could also argue up to Nelson Square) is appalling. It really is a fucking eyesore. I really can't see how that could be regenerated for shops/businesses. It all needs flattening. Edited February 26, 2013 by DazBob Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I hear that there is a plan to move the club stadium back to the town centre im sure its a very long term plan as I cannot see the Reebok being levelled any time soon. Quote
Guest Frandsen08 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 the rock in bury is alreet, combined with the market right next to the bus station has cinemas, restaurants bars and load of shops which aren't just poundlands, bolton has empty retail parks scattered around the town, the toys r us one is dead the one on Manchester road consisting of b&m and pets at home is dead, the sainsburys retail park seems only busy for sainsburys the town centre has nothing for kids, no attractions its honestly like the council doesn't want people in the center. Quote
Moderators Carlos Posted February 26, 2013 Moderators Posted February 26, 2013 I reckon the land at Middlebrook is worth more than it would cost to rebuild in Bolton. A regeneration around the stadium clearly works. Quote
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