Dougie Freedman

[Ratwhite]

I'm trying to liken this current period to the 92/93 season when Rioch came. He made a couple of signings and it took a while to gel. ( 3 wins, 2 draws and 6 defeats).

 

2-2 draw at Chester (Mrs Ratwhites first "day out" shopping in Chester, that turned into a "blimey, Bolton are playing in Chester, should we have a little look........moment)

 

Anyway we all know what happened from there (with the team, that is).

 

Think DF will do the same in his own time.

Edited February 11, 2013 by Ratwhite

[Ratwhite]

Ps are the 34 who voted no, the nest of boo'ers, who also made Eagles (allegedly) hand in a transfer request?

 

 

 

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, plop, Tick tick tick tick

[Casino]

riochs team was booed at both chester and preston

 

2-0 down in both and came back to draw

 

pretty grim against port vale at home, too

 

mcginlays first goal/appearance/something

[Carlos]

Didn't go to Chester, at Preston there wasn't booing as I remember but constant Warbies Out chants.

[Casino]

seem to remember walker was on the bench at preston

 

there was booing and it was probably brought on by that

 

at chester, we were near the roadrunner camera

 

i'd be surprised if you can't hear meldrews nest

[Traf]

#wevealwaysbeenvilebooers

[jules_darby]

Freedman - Saturday

 

Serious question

 

Does he go up or down in folk's estimations?

 

The first hour or so was painful

 

But he obviously made the right big decisions and we claimed the all important victory

 

I think it's a bit of both for me

[frank_spencer]

Freedman - Saturday

 

Serious question

 

Does he go up or down in folk's estimations?

 

The first hour or so was painful

 

But he obviously made the right big decisions and we claimed the all important victory

 

I think it's a bit of both for me

First hour we were set up very similar to the way we were when we beat sunlun and played very well against Everton.

 

I suppose eagles doesn't get into the box like Pratley does.

[jules_darby]

First hour we were set up very similar to the way we were when we beat sunlun and played very well against Everton.

 

I suppose eagles doesn't get into the box like Pratley does.

I wasn't at the Sunderland game, but our movement, passing and tracking was miles better v Everton (post the first 15-20 mins) than it was v Burnley

 

It was leagues apart

[Casino]

from his comments after the game, the plan was always to take them apart in the last 30 minutes when they'd shot their load

 

this could, of course, be bullshit

 

 

don't forget, for all it was functional - at best - and not what you'd call entertaining, they rarely threatened us, either

[Carlos]

He's brought someone in for loose change who looks a goal threat. That's the long term bonus.

[jules_darby]

from his comments after the game, the plan was always to take them apart in the last 30 minutes when they'd shot their load

 

this could, of course, be bullshit

 

 

don't forget, for all it was functional - at best - and not what you'd call entertaining, they rarely threatened us, either

Yeah, that approach has been documented, but our games don't always pan out that way, that's why I'm not sure

 

DF's style is obviously a work in progress and the late capitalisation may well have been deliberate, but I'm not sure that means he'd have been happy with the first hour; it wasn't that functional if (even though they rarely threatened us) it still led us to be 1 down at that stage; the lack of fluidity and ball retention must be a cause for concern, even if he wanted us to play "within ourselves"

 

I mean, Watford away last week for example, I only heard it, but it appeared that we were in control at 1-1 until their 2nd on 70 mins and retained possession better all game

[Garrp]

riochs team was booed at both chester and preston

 

2-0 down in both and came back to draw

 

pretty grim against port vale at home, too

 

mcginlays first goal/appearance/something

 

 

Dont forget those booing Allardyce at the Walsall game

[Ratwhite]

Freedman - Saturday

 

Serious question

 

Does he go up or down in folk's estimations?

 

The first hour or so was painful

 

But he obviously made the right big decisions and we claimed the all important victory

 

I think it's a bit of both for me

 

Big tick from me.

 

We won, what more can he do

[frank_spencer]

Yeah, that approach has been documented, but our games don't always pan out that way, that's why I'm not sure

 

DF's style is obviously a work in progress and the late capitalisation may well have been deliberate, but I'm not sure that means he'd have been happy with the first hour; it wasn't that functional if (even though they rarely threatened us) it still led us to be 1 down at that stage; the lack of fluidity and ball retention must be a cause for concern, even if he wanted us to play "within ourselves"

 

I mean, Watford away last week for example, I only heard it, but it appeared that we were in control at 1-1 until their 2nd on 70 mins and retained possession better all game

 

I'd say the issues were down to execution from the players rather than any issue with the set up. there was a few crosses put in with only Sordell in there. its down to Eagles and the either winger to get in the box with him and no body was.

 

Whilst it was uninspiring i'd say we controlled the game and looked the more dangerous without actually creating anything (if that's at all possible) as the game wore on it just felt like we needed to do something to change it or we'd be caught out, and we were.

[onlyoneawalker]

I think we need to get over this issue with the first half of games being shit DF is clearly very much a slowly slowly catchy monkey type of manager we need to be patient let the team get in the game and then pick teams off for me it's a 100% better prospect than coyles scatter gun approach we'll out "wing" all comers and megsons slowly slowly slowly still slowly still slowly.....nope monkeys gone approach

Edited February 11, 2013 by onlyoneawalker

[Casino]

Dont forget those booing Allardyce at the Walsall game

 

cunts

[jules_darby]

I'd say the issues were down to execution from the players rather than any issue with the set up. there was a few crosses put in with only Sordell in there. its down to Eagles and the either winger to get in the box with him and no body was.

 

Whilst it was uninspiring i'd say we controlled the game and looked the more dangerous without actually creating anything (if that's at all possible) as the game wore on it just felt like we needed to do something to change it or we'd be caught out, and we were.

 

 

I think we need to get over this issue with the first half of games being shit DF is clearly very much a slowly slowly catchy monkey type of manager we need to be patient let the team get in the game and then pick teams off for me it's a 100% better prospect than coyles scatter gun approach we'll out "wing" all comers and megsons slowly slowly slowly still slowly still slowly.....nope monkeys gone approach

It's fine to have DF's approach, but that doesn't mean that if it's dire it's OK

 

As Frank's put above, the execution has to be there and for long periods on Saturday it wasn't.

 

The good news is that under OC when it wasn't there we were probably 2 or 3 down

 

So of course it's preferable, but that doesn't mean it's always going to be ok. I'm sure DF wasn't over the moon 55 mins in on Saturday thinking "it's ok it's all part of my plan"

[1969]

Probably not that's why he changed it

[jules_darby]

Probably not that's why he changed it

Egg

 

Zackerly

 

 

[gonzo]

It appears 22 people have deleted their votes.

 

Why the fuck would you do that??

[tomski]

People are being leaned on is my suspicion could be to do with #viledruggythugs ha

[jules_darby]

Tomski could be on to something

 

Maybe they voted no and were forced to drop their vote by #viledougie'sthugs

[tomski]

Tomski could be on to something

 

Maybe they voted no and were forced to drop their vote by #viledougie'sthugs

I got a call today telling me to stay away from leverhulme tonight if I don't change my vote to no. I stayed away they can't sway my love of the Doog!

[KP]

Saturdaywas a big tick from me. I think he knows he's got it slightly wrong for the first hour, looked at what it was that was wrong and changed accordingly. He's had a successful plan B. It's fucking refreshing that we have a manager capable of doing that.