Live rocket launch in 10mins here

 

http://www.spacex.com/webcast/

4 minutes ago, Rudy said:

NASA just said Hubble has spotted the farthest star ever seen 

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2022/record-broken-hubble-spots-farthest-star-ever-seen

I've read the first few paragraphs of that and my brain has turned to a watery soup

Light has travelled for 13billion years - and light travels at a fairly brisk pace - and has only just reached us?

And in all that time, that beam of light hasn't been blocked by a planet or a bus or a big hotel or anything?

That's just hard to process.

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

I've read the first few paragraphs of that and my brain has turned to a watery soup

Light has travelled for 13billion years - and light travels at a fairly brisk pace - and has only just reached us?

And in all that time, that beam of light hasn't been blocked by a planet or a bus or a big hotel or anything?

That's just hard to process.

That's the point I was making earlier in the thread.

How do they know when that photon set out on its journey?

 

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

I've read the first few paragraphs of that and my brain has turned to a watery soup

Light has travelled for 13billion years - and light travels at a fairly brisk pace - and has only just reached us?

And in all that time, that beam of light hasn't been blocked by a planet or a bus or a big hotel or anything?

That's just hard to process.

I understand that more than your giant flask boiler 

Edited March 30, 20224 yr by Rudy

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's the point I was making earlier in the thread.

How do they know when that photon set out on its journey?

 

Fuck knows. It's not like they can cut it open and count its rings.

This theory does suggest that when I turn an outside light on on a clear night, that the light then sets off on an infinite journey across the universe. So in a few million years an alien sat staring through a telescope, with his disgusting, goggly eyes and slimy skin, will chance upon the unedifying sillhouette of me pissing in a grid after a skinful down the brewery bar.

Doesn't really seem worth all the effort to me.

Edited March 30, 20224 yr by Spider

1 hour ago, Rudy said:

NASA just said Hubble has spotted the farthest star ever seen 

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2022/record-broken-hubble-spots-farthest-star-ever-seen

I’ve not opened the link so please forgive me but if there is a picture, is it like a white dot on a black background? 

1 hour ago, Spider said:

I've read the first few paragraphs of that and my brain has turned to a watery soup

Light has travelled for 13billion years - and light travels at a fairly brisk pace - and has only just reached us?

And in all that time, that beam of light hasn't been blocked by a planet or a bus or a big hotel or anything?

That's just hard to process.

You could set off in any random direction into space and it would be billions of billions of years before you would be likely to hit anything......

As long as you didn't aim yourself at the moon like!

23 minutes ago, kent_white said:

You could set off in any random direction into space and it would be billions of billions of years before you would be likely to hit anything......

As long as you didn't aim yourself at the moon like!

Han Solo wasted a lot of time then

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's the point I was making earlier in the thread.

How do they know when that photon set out on its journey?

 

The more I read the more I suspect the photon never actually set out on its journey, Quantum Superposition is truly mind boggling, please don't quiz me about it as after 10 years of reading and thinking about it I still can't get my head around it. check it out.

But I do suspect QS is an indicator of what is really happening out there and could one day explain spiritualism and such.

Yeah, and there's some bloke with pointy ears, TJ Hooker and some scotch bloke knocking about in a spaceship where gravity exists. What a load of old toss.

I can’t see an extra terrestrial civilisation bothering with us to be honest.

If they really do exist, can you imagine if they did probe one of us for information?

Imagine if they kidnapped Bolty.

 

Blaze channel now. Based on the moon before we landed there

and now it’s got weird. Someone can project themselves about and knew all about the moon bases and stuff 

Some guy called Randy Kramer a super space soldier on a 20 year tour of duty serving on advanced space defence stations. 
 

What the fuck am I watching?

Read this..

"Decoding the Universe" by Charles Seife

"How the new science of information is explaining everything in the cosmos from our brains and black holes"

This is one of the books that got me really thinking about "stuff" back in 2006 and is very readable.

 

 

and Randy upon finishing his tour of duty is returned to his teenage self but 15 minutes further on from when he last remembered but initially couldn’t remember anything

the space expert has just said that Randy’s story is fascinating but not believable. Fucking who’d have thought that 

We were talking on here a couple of weeks back about solutions to the Fermi paradox and why we don't see evidence of life (let alone intelligent life) anywhere else in the universe. 

I heard a belting one the other day. Basically it was suggesting that, and bear with me. 

Any civilisation reaching a certain level of technological advancement will need to leave it's home star system eventually as they will have used up all it's resources. 

To leave their star system they will need to develop spaceships that can travel at close to the speed of light. Travelling at close to the speed of light also hugely increases the amount of time that travels for the person travelling relative to the observers. Time dilation and all that.

So therefore - there are loads of civilisations - they've just all achieved close to speed of light travel and have therefore sped themselves off into the far future. 

One day - we'll figure out a way of doing it too and when we stop - we'll encounter all these other civilsations - billions of years into the future. 

2 hours ago, Dimron said:

The more I read the more I suspect the photon never actually set out on its journey, Quantum Superposition is truly mind boggling, please don't quiz me about it as after 10 years of reading and thinking about it I still can't get my head around it. check it out.

But I do suspect QS is an indicator of what is really happening out there and could one day explain spiritualism and such.

Have you read 'Something Deeply Hidden' By Sean Carroll - about the 'many worlds interpretation' vs the 'Copanhagen interpretation'. If you want something to keep you awake at night - I'd highly recommend it! 😁👍

10 hours ago, Spider said:

I can’t see an extra terrestrial civilisation bothering with us to be honest.

If they really do exist, can you imagine if they did probe one of us for information?

Imagine if they kidnapped Bolty.

 

They'd get some quality socks and a decent pudding recipe 

11 hours ago, Spider said:

I can’t see an extra terrestrial civilisation bothering with us to be honest.

If they really do exist, can you imagine if they did probe one of us for information?

Imagine if they kidnapped Bolty.

 

They've already been, one hid in Drew Barrymore's cupboard then dressed in drag and nicked her brother's BMX after molesting him and giving him Alien AIDs. It then buggered off on a UFO to escape prosecution. Horwich residents are regularly beamed up and gang-probed because they're freaks, they core their anus and then beam them into Sam's Bar and they're none the wiser.

3 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said:

They've already been, one hid in Drew Barrymore's cupboard then dressed in drag and nicked her brother's BMX after molesting him and giving him Alien AIDs. It then buggered off on a UFO to escape prosecution. Horwich residents are regularly beamed up and gang-probed because they're freaks, they core their anus and then beam them into Sam's Bar and they're none the wiser.

Of all the people on this site, if we had a poll of  who’s been beamed up I reckon you’d win it by an absolute landslide 

Just now, Rudy said:

Of all the people on this site, if we had a poll of  who’s been beamed up I reckon you’d win it by an absolute landslide 

Beamed up

Then dropped on his head when they’d had enough and chucked him out of the hatch.

Imagine if they had chosen Youri as a representative example of humanity. They’ll never come back, that’s for certain.

1 minute ago, Rudy said:

Of all the people on this site, if we had a poll of  who’s been beamed up I reckon you’d win it by an absolute landslide 

After taking a cocktail of illegal and prescription drugs I did get beamed up, the spaceship was very clean, they wanted to gang-probe me, but I resisted. They interrogated me about human warfare, but after me going on about my childhood Action Man and the kit and stuff he had for about three hours, and how I'd been disgruntled about never being bought a Scuba Diver doll, they grew bored of me and beamed me back down, I woke up in The Brooklyn car park.

43 minutes ago, Spider said:

if they had chosen Youri as a representative example of humanity. They’ll never come back, that’s for certain.

They wouldn't because they'd shit their spacesuits.

10 hours ago, kent_white said:

Have you read 'Something Deeply Hidden' By Sean Carroll - about the 'many worlds interpretation' vs the 'Copanhagen interpretation'. If you want something to keep you awake at night - I'd highly recommend it! 😁👍

I've come across it, I think mentioned in a New Scientist booklet "The Universe Next Door" or something like that.

Looking for some new reading matter to get into at the moment so I'll look it up.

11 hours ago, kent_white said:

We were talking on here a couple of weeks back about solutions to the Fermi paradox and why we don't see evidence of life (let alone intelligent life) anywhere else in the universe. 

I heard a belting one the other day. Basically it was suggesting that, and bear with me. 

Any civilisation reaching a certain level of technological advancement will need to leave it's home star system eventually as they will have used up all it's resources. 

To leave their star system they will need to develop spaceships that can travel at close to the speed of light. Travelling at close to the speed of light also hugely increases the amount of time that travels for the person travelling relative to the observers. Time dilation and all that.

So therefore - there are loads of civilisations - they've just all achieved close to speed of light travel and have therefore sped themselves off into the far future. 

One day - we'll figure out a way of doing it too and when we stop - we'll encounter all these other civilsations - billions of years into the future. 

Is that an observer's year or the traveler's year?